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Mrs Jackcrawfish and I are planning a cruise in February next year. Proceeds from this AOR will be used in part
to pay for tips while traveling.


GOAL
Get Good Bed of Credit to leverage for her AOR2.0
Earn some cruise spending & tip cash
Test Apps for my own AOR2.0 planned for September (AOR 1.0)


SCORES

Date       Service        tu    ex    eq
07/29/2008 PM123 FAKO's 776 750 780
07/03/2008 CitiIDMonitr 796 790 784
06/20/2008 Equifx FICO 796
06/09/2008 PLUS Score 792 784 780

INQUIRIES

Business           Agency  Date         Note                                   Note2
CITIBANK EQ 04/20/2008 40000 TYP
Macys/DSNB EX 09/14/2007 15% off purchase (unbumpable inquiry)
CITIBANK EQ 07/10/2007 USA account, I think
GEMB/JCP TU 03/16/2007 15% off purchase bumped off 08/04/2008
LOCAL CREDIT UNION EQ 10/30/2006 Renewed LOC account

ACCOUNTS

Issuer           Age     Limit   Type       Owned?
Citi Div Plat Sel 12yrs 13k Revolving AU

APPLICATIONS TO CONSIDER

ISSUER                Term  Rate Fee  Apply A/D  Limit Bureau  NOTE  

PERSONAL CREDIT
1 Chase Plat MCardŽ 12 0% 75 Link C 00000 EQ Immed Consol
2 AMEX/BLUE 99 5% 99 Link D 00000 EX This is for AOR2.0 strategy
3 BOA PlatPlus 12 0% 0 Link D 00000 EX unable to obtain credit report
4 CITI Associated Bank 12 0% 0 Link C 00000 EQ CLR $15k to CASH Returns
5 CITI CASH RETURNS ............ Link C 00000 EQ FW Talk 15k from Assoc; adverse closure
8 USBANK / LINUX 12 0% 0 Link A 25000 EQ FW Talk 0 fee with app
10 BCLYS Juniper EDirect 6 0% 50 Link C 00000 TU CLR 9.5k to Bank Atlantic
11 DiscoverŽ More Card 12 0% 75 Link A 08000 TU (pull also used for the biz app)
12 BCLYS IFLY 12 0% 50 Link D 00000 TU Sufficient crdt is avail on your acct issued by Barclays
15 WAMU ESPN Total... 6 0% 0 Link A 02000 TU
16 BCLYS BestWestern 6 0% 50 Link D 00000 TU Sufficient crdt is avail on your acct issued by Barclays
17 Wells Fargo 9 0% 75 LgdIn D 00000 EX Under my log-in.. they tried to pull EX
18 Chase/Disney 12 0% 50 Link C 00000 EQ CLR 10500 to Biz
19 USBANK /ProBull 12 0% 0 Link D 00000 EQ FW Talk max unsecured credit already avail
20 BOA NEA Card 12 0% 30 Link D 00000 EX unable to obtain credit report
21 FNBO ............ Link D 00000 EQ FW Talk/Hopeful
22 PRINCIPAL 9 0% 3% Link D 00000 EQ Excessive inquiries
23 RBS Peoples Bank 12 0% 60w Link D 00000 EQ too many inq
24 BOA Pet Rewards 6 0% 0 Link D 00000 EX unable to obtain credit report
25 State Farm 9 0% 0 Link D 00000 TU|EQ 08/01|08/04 (respectively)
27 Iberia Bank 6 0% 0 Link A 10500 TU Will BT approx 10/31/2008 1st time
28 CHASE perfect 12 0% 99 Link D 00000 EQ $25 cardselection too many inquiries
29 Wachovia 12 0% 75 Link D 00000 EQ FW Talk Phone app / Excessive inquiries
30 AMEX CLEAR ............ Link A 02000 EX Denied at first
31 AMEX HILTON ............ Link D 00000 EX
32 BCLYS Farm Bureau 12 0% 50 Link A 02500 TU !Applied 2 days after initial 3 BARCLAYS apps!
34 CHASE invitation 12 0% 99 D 00000 EQ too many inquiries
35 CITI Professional 12 0% 99 C 00000 EQ Converted to PlatSel; Will CLR to CASH Returns; 10k lost to AA
36 BOA Plat Plus 12 0% 30 Link A 10000 EX I reapplied 8/26 after defrost

STATS =            60000 NEW CREDIT      7 OPEN/29 APPS (after consolidation and Citi AA)





BUSINESS CREDIT
6 Chase Biz (AKA FUSA) 15 0% 99 Link A 16500 EQ Card= 08/20/08 CLR 10500
7 CitiBusiness 12 0% 0 Link C 00000 EQ 10k lost to AA
9 BCLYS Bank Atlantic 15 0% 75 Link A 27500 TU $9.5k CLR from Juni Em Direct
13 Advanta Plat Biz 15 0% 90 Link A 02500 EQ T&C markkundinger:small credit limit?
14 Dicover Miles 6 4% 75 Link A 05000 TU $40 cardselection
26 CHASE Cash 12 0% 99 Link D 00000 EQ $30 cardselection too many inquiries
33 Elan M & T 6 0% 0 Link D 00000 EQ inquiries
XX 5/3rd 12 0% 0 Link Not available locally


STATS =           051500 NEW CREDIT      4 OPEN/ 7 APPS (after consolidation and Citi AA)

IMPORTANT LINKS
App Status | Reallocate | Citi Realloc Denied | Reward Checking Accounts for ALL | Creative BT Harvesting | Citi CASH Returns Card


TIMELINE containing summary of how $$$ was obtained

6  Chase Biz (AKA FUSA)  15    0% 99   Link   A  16500   EQ   Card= 08/20/08 CLR 10500

2008-08-27 confirmed consolidation from 10500 Disney
2008-08-28 check from card carrier written and deposited into checking

 8  USBANK / LINUX        12    0% 0    Link   A  25000   EQ   FW Talk 0 fee with app

2008-08-04 Verified via status thread number (800.947.1444) that Line = 25K. Was also advised $6,135 BT check to Discover will be mailed 2008-08-07.
2008-08-06 BT posts to USBank account for Discover BT on app
2008-08-08 Changed due date to the 15th Our records indicate that the due date for your account will be between the 13th and the 18th of the month
2008-08-13 I sent note requesting and additional BT for free I would like to pay my auto loan off. I didn't include the loan in my original application. Would there still be a balance transfer fee? received promo code from US Bank on the same day
2008-08-15 Bal Tran to Citi $16,115 via online promo code.
2008-08-22 Pmt posts to Citi for $16,115

 9  BCLYS BankAtlantic    15    0% 75   Link   A  17500   TU   10k reallocated from EmigrantDirect

2008-08-13 Req BT to Citi Cash Returns Card for $17,250.
2008-08-14 Req $10,000 reallocate from Juniper EmigrantDirect
2008-08-15 Req BT to Citi Cash Returns Card for $10,000
2008-08-20 Both pmts post to Citi as "ELECTRONIC PAYMENT-THANK YOU". Immediate Cr Bal Ref requested for $27,250
2008-08-22 Received email Before processing your refund request, we must verify your recent payments. We will contact you through the Secure Message Center within 7-10 days.

11 DiscoverŽ More Card   12    0%  75  Link   A   8000   TU

2008-08-14 Called to req $7,120 BT to one of Jackcrawfish's ATT Citi cards
2008-08-18 Transaction posts to Discover card


Learnings:

  1. CHASE e-corr consolidation is feasible
  2. Iberia/Pulaski Credit department (AKA Kiley) can be reached at 501-661-7379
  3. Everbank will not open account(s) if Experian is frozen
  4. CHASE takes a long time to underwrite; Iberia/Pulaski even longer
  5. Juniper/Barclays may approve late application due to the "TU-disappearing-inquiries-for-a-day-effect"
  6. Iberia/Pulaski start 6 mo BT clock when BT posts (much like Citi does)

Message edited by: jackcrawfish on 2008-08-28 21:17:35 CDT
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Do you have a preferred cruise line? They might have a rewards card.


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our first ever cruise...i think it's royal carribean


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tips? you know those are negotiable... You should spend the money on drinks instead. 7, 8 bucks a pop really adds up.


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Do I see monospace font? GRE-E-E-E-EN! Finally a solution for all those alignment problems that many posts with tabular material suffer.


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Might wanna go with the no-fee BofA card Link


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You do realize that a bit of patience on CruiseCompete can easily yield a travel agency willing to comp you tips.


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Applied for and instantly approved for CHASE cardApplication Approved
Congratulations. Your application has been approved. You will receive
your card and complete account information within 2 weeks by mail.

Applied for and instantly received denial for AMEX BLUEIn processing your application we have determined that you have restricted access to credit information with a consumer reporting agency. Once you provide us with the access code, pin, or authorize American Express to receive information from your credit file from the consumer reporting agency listed in this letter, we will continue processing your application. Regrettably, if we do not hear from you within 30 days from the date of this letter, we will be unable to provide additional consideration to your request
Applied for and instantly received deferral for BOA Plat PlusYour business is appreciated and careful consideration is being given to your request, but an instant decision cannot be provided at this time.
For more information on freezing a credit file so as to prevent inquiries, see theman's thread


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jackcrawfish said:For more information on freezing a credit file so as to prevent inquiries, see theman's threadExactly what I was looking for! Thanks, and good luck the rest of the way!


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cyberkost said:Do I see monospace font? GRE-E-E-E-EN! Finally a solution for all those alignment problems that many posts with tabular material suffer.

The code tag is your friend.


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Jack - what am I missing? You only list one active account? You only applied to one Chase biz card? I applied to 5-7 Chase biz apps in both of my A-O-Rs and got approval on five of them each time. This was July 07 and Feb 08, so the world may have changed.


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Venturion said:Jack - what am I missing? You only list one active account? You only applied to one Chase biz card? I applied to 5-7 Chase biz apps in both of my A-O-Rs and got approval on five of them each time. This was July 07 and Feb 08, so the world may have changed.Yes - only one account as AU.

As I recall, CHASE uses the same bureau report, correct?

edit: my bad... it was US Bank
edit2: i see Venturion disputed inquiries via Win333 technique (I'll search for his technique unless someone here feels "spoon generous")
edit3: If I'm reading Win333's post correctly:
1) fill report with softs using multiple services
2) prior to choppage, "trap" the softs pulled in step 1 by disputing with EQSilver
3) continue pulling with services. When choppage happens, only the softs pulled following the EQSilver dispute will be removed


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What do you all think? Should I get a pin and let AmericnExpress hit EX? I'd like her to get a monster CL to help her scores for the possibility of an AOR2.0. Green for YES red post for NO.

jackcrawfish said:Applied for and instantly received denial for AMEX BLUEIn processing your application we have determined that you have restricted access to credit information with a consumer reporting agency. Once you provide us with the access code, pin, or authorize American Express to receive information from your credit file from the consumer reporting agency listed in this letter, we will continue processing your application. Regrettably, if we do not hear from you within 30 days from the date of this letter, we will be unable to provide additional consideration to your request


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Unfortunately, Chase does pull separate reports for each app, but sometimes they get aggregated and, of course, you can bump them

As for disputing EQ inquiries, that ability has sadly gone away. Anyone have different recent experience?

jackcrawfish said:edit: my bad... it was US Bank
edit2: i see Venturion disputed inquiries via Win333 technique (I'll search for his technique unless someone here feels "spoon generous")
edit3: If I'm reading Win333's post correctly:
1) fill report with softs using multiple services
2) prior to choppage, "trap" the softs pulled in step 1 by disputing with EQSilver
3) continue pulling with services. When choppage happens, only the softs pulled following the EQSilver dispute will be removed


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INQUIRIES

AT LAUNCH
EQ = 03 (1 < 12 mo)
EX = 01 (it is < 12 mo)
TU = 01
THROUGH 16 HOURS and 15 APPLICATIONS
EQ = 10
EX = 01
TU = 06
THROUGH 5 DAYS and 33 APPLICATIONS (6 apps believed to require Experian pulls)
EQ = 15
EX = 01
TU = 06


Message edited by: jackcrawfish on 2008-08-04 16:39:00 CDT
Message drafted by: jackcrawfish on 2008-07-30 15:17:00 CDT


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I don't think Citi is going to grant her a 5% unlimited account (see below).

At first, I was very pleased
email Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:06 AM
Dear Mrs Jackcrawfish:

Congratulations and welcome to Citi CashReturns(SM) Card card membership! Your account was approved on 07/30/2008 with a credit line of $7,300. You should receive your new card and Card Agreement within a week.

If you do not receive your card within 10 days from the approval date, please call us immediately at 1-800-950-5114. For your convenience, we are here to serve you 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Once you receive your card in the mail, visit www.citicards.com to see if you have balance transfer offers available to you.

If you are interested in adding an additional cardholder, please call us at 1-800-950-5114 or go to www.citicards.com once you have received your card. We look forward to serving you for many years to come.

Sincerely,
R.M. Pick
Citibank (South Dakota), N.A.
Then I became concerned

email Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:06 AMDear Mrs Jackcrawfish:

Thank you for applying for a Citi CashReturns(SM) Card account.
We have additional information we would like to discuss with you to ensure we provide you with the product that best meets your needs.
Please call us at 888-556-0463 between 8:00 a.m. – 10:00 p.m., ET, before 08/05/2008.


Sincerely,
R.M. Pick
Citibank (South Dakota), N.A.
I'll have her call later tonight to figure what's going on.

FWIW, I have screen shots... we'll see how it goes.


07/31/2008 2:40 PM CST correction: I had pasted the same Citi email in both quoted positions...


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for AMEX, if experian is frozen, you will get denied if they pull it. you can apply for another one and they may pull TU, and get a deferral.


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Don't worry about it. They're just trying to promote another product, such as the Citi Professional card. I've received these offers *after* having been approved for the CashReturns card, so you might want to have your wife check her application status.

Since I've started ignoring these letters, I've been deluged by specific offers such as pre-approvals for the Diamond Preferred Rewards and Dividend Platinum Select cards, both received on 7/25 with letter dates of 6/27, (having uncapped BT fees), and expiration dates of 7/27. Huh?

Earlier this week, I received pre-approved offers of overdraft protection, a home equity loan, and a HELOC. Other than the HELOC, the rates were terrible.

I wouldn't advise both (ab)using the CashReturns card and doing BTs with Citi concurrently. It's asking for trouble.


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