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IIRC, BankAtlantic wants you to leave ~$250 or something of CL after accounting for the BT and fees.


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Citi only allows one card per business so you can't have 2 citi aa bus mc.
But you can have a mc and visa.


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As most of you know, the CASH Returns product has died and come alive many times. In light of this fact, I have modified my original plan

My original plan was to

  1. use the Associated Bank BT offer for 11 months (I requested a 24,000 check about a week ago), then
  2. apply for CASH Returns card in July 2009 (yes... I actually believed it would still be around pot-smoking comments welcome), then
  3. CLR to the CASH Returns card for immediate 5% return

My revised plan is to

  1. I opted on Sep 3rd to apply "early" to ensure I don't miss the chance at 5%...
  2. I was approved 9/8/2008 (email announcement)
  3. I opened Citibank deposit account (UMA) yesterday on 9/9/2008
  4. This morning (9/10/2008), with BT in progress and no physical CASH Returns card in hand, I was able to sucessfully consolidate my Associated Bank card into my new CASH Returns card (online the Associated Bank card immediately showed closed with a $80 credit line) (Thanks 800-950-5114 Mike #86025!)...rep advised I may lose the promotional BT terms which I'm ok with because I plan on paying it off immediately to free room to
  5. make deposit via CASH Returns card into my unfunded deposit account

Only one thing I'm concerned about...will the $24000 BT post to CASH Returns card with uncapped 3% fee $720!!


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jackcrawfish said:Only one thing I'm concerned about...will the $24000 BT post to CASH Returns card with uncapped 3% fee $720!!

No, you won't be charged a BT fee. It will just show up as a 24k purchase on the CashReturns. But don't get too excited when you see that because it, unfortunately, doesn't count like a real purchase for the 5% Cash Back.


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crap...

I was excited to fund a savings account with a CASH Returns credit card but I've confirmed with multiple CSRs and other sources that the technical issues where CASH Returns card funding transactions were posting as purchases have been corrected. Now any funding ideas I had have been squashed because these will post now as a cash advance and incur a 3% uncapped fee...

what a crock...


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jackcrawfish said:crap...

I was excited to fund a savings account with a CASH Returns credit card but I've confirmed with multiple CSRs and other sources that the technical issues where CASH Returns card funding transactions were posting as purchases have been corrected. Now any funding ideas I had have been squashed because these will post now as a cash advance and incur a 3% uncapped fee...

what a crock...

Yikes I sure hope that is not true. I have a big one in process now. It hasn't posted yet, but it is subtracted from my available credit now. I should be able to tell if it goes through as a cash advance in a day or so. Even if it does go though as a purchase, they could recode it as a CA later.


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So which side is it that is giving you trouble? Is the savings account now processing CC funding as a cash advance? Is the CASH returns card now processing funding as a cash advance? Or is this a collaborative effort between the 2 Citi divisions?

I'm curious as to which deal is dead. The funding of a Citi savings account with CC to get Cash Back in general, or the use of a CASH returns card to fund savings accounts in general to get Cash Back. I hope I worded that correctly.


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Between Mrs. J and I, we've got over 100k now at Mrs J's shiny new 4.76% Everbank account with a few more straggler BTs still forthcoming.

I faxed an app (no funding yet) for ebank's 5% 9 month CD on 9/8/2008 and called today because online the rate had dropped from 5.00% to 4.06%.

Rep said they will still honor deposits posting "in the very near future."

5.00% lock seems good for 9 months... perhaps I'll put 70% of it in the CD and keep some for adverse action and regular payments...


I'm not messing with reward checking accounts as for me the balance caps and transaction requirements are too prohibitive, IMO.


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hey jackcrawfish, did you get any of the new Barclays credit cards? I applied for 3, the Farm Bureau, Juniper Biz and Bank Atlantic Biz. They gave me all three cards then canceled one of the biz cards since they said you can only have one on your account.

The Farm Bureau is easy to get the funds, just deposit the included BT check.

The Biz cards are difficult and they won't send me a BT check nor deposit into my bank account. They said they will only transfer to another CC...

I wonder what's the best way to get the biz card funds? All my credit cards seem to charge at least $50 to $99 for a BT checks.

Thanks


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bas2000 said:hey jackcrawfish, did you get any of the new Barclays credit cards? I applied for 3, the Farm Bureau, Juniper Biz and Bank Atlantic Biz. They gave me all three cards then canceled one of the biz cards since they said you can only have one on your account.

The Farm Bureau is easy to get the funds, just deposit the included BT check.

The Biz cards are difficult and they won't send me a BT check nor deposit into my bank account. They said they will only transfer to another CC...

I wonder what's the best way to get the biz card funds? All my credit cards seem to charge at least $50 to $99 for a BT checks.

Thanks

You can BT to a card that already has a balance from a BT, and then use the same method you used to get BT from the 2nd card again. For me, I did a BT direct deposit from BOA, then BT from bank atlantic to BOA, and then DD from BOA again. And yes, a lot of cards these days have a $50 to $99 fee. There are still some with no fee, but the fee is justified as long as its capped and you end up on top.


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received an email from Citibank. The subject line is intended to draw me in based on the 2.65% APY:Your Citibank Ultimate Money Account – when you fund it, it will pay.While I'm drawn to the account for a different reason, Citibank was wise to Mrs J's activity so I'm laying low for a while...

side comment: Scott1961 should be proud of Squeezer and his political post.


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jackcrawfish said:markkundinger said:jackcrawfish said:I was denied my Wells Fargo application initially. Wells Fargo credit analysts stated the credit policy is to only allow one card at a time. After confirming reopening was possible, I asked to close my $16,500 existing line to try and take advantage of an excellent BT offer on the new application. The credit rep said wait a few days for their decision on the new application.Interesting jack, and I may have missed it before but how long had the old card bene closed? i've got one that's been closed a few months. Do you know if "reopening" would require a hard inquiry? do you have a number for WF's credit ninja department?I applied while my first card was still open to test their policy of 1 card per person. Per my multiple card research, I was told:You usually can have only one Wells Fargo credit card account with you as the only cardholder.

You can close you account one day and submit an application the next day
When I called for the status of my application the credit rep confirmed their policy of 1 card per person. It was during the app status call that I requested closure of my existing 16500 card. (To your question regarding hard inquiry for reopen): I asked, "If I close my existing card (so that the new application can be considered) and I am denied, can I reopen the closed card without a hard inquiry?"

Her response was, "if the request to reopen is within 60 days of closure, a hard inquiry is not needed."

Frankly, I don't believe Wells would deny my new application and then reopen my closed line without a hard review.

YMMV


edit: 800-967-9521 is direct line to credit department
When I logged in to Wells online I can see my new card with a 8000 credit line and a closed card with a zero credit line... hmmmmm...

I decided to call to request re-open of my closed AOR1.0 line. I was told a request would be made for a "re-open review" to a manager and that someone would call me within 24 hours.

Within 4 hours, I received a call approving the reopen request of my old Wells card. The person identified herself as being from the "Wells Fargo executive office." I checked online and saw that my old credit line has been fully reinstated (16,500). woo hooooo!

I'll call to request credit line reallocation or consolidation to my newer Wells card and report my results here later (Wells new BTs are free during the 1st 30 days from new account opening). I've already drawn 7000 of the new 8000 card... I'll see how reallocation goes.


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On 9/19, I wired 96,500 into a 5% APY 9 month Ebank CD from Countrywide.

Countrywide restricts wires to at least 105,000. I had a manager approve an exception to the rule.

Now it gets weird...online this morning I viewed my transaction history for my Countrywide account and discovered that before they wired the $96,500 to eBank, they GAVE me a credit for $96,500 (see below):

POSTING DATE     TRANSACTION DESCRIPTION   CREDIT        DEBIT       BALANCE 
09/19/08         WIRE TRANSFER FEE                      $15.00   $130,814.19  
09/19/08         20081234567890                     $96,500.00   $130,829.19  
09/19/08         20080987654321        $96,500.00                $227,329.19
It should have looked like this:
POSTING DATE     TRANSACTION DESCRIPTION   CREDIT        DEBIT       BALANCE 
09/19/08         WIRE TRANSFER FEE                      $15.00    $34,314.19  
09/19/08         20081234567890                     $96,500.00    $34,329.19

Now maybe I'll just ACH $96,500 to a linked external account under the presumption the original wire request never went through due to the 105,000 minimum rule (make Countrywide ask for their money back)

EDIT: The wire was rejected based on bad ABA information. I called EBank; EBank rep provided new information; I called 877-518-8900 (Countrywide Wire dept); I faxed wire request to "Wire Corrections Officer Erica" @ 480-224-6794 (she said she would not charge an additional wire fee)


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ya, that'll show them for the $15 fee. Unless of course they catch you before the wire transfer takes place and you end up paying an overdraft fee for $96,500.00, hahahah.


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I bumped EQ clean on 8/16/2008. I bumped 3 of AOR2.0 off with this morning's pulls.

I have begun seeing EQ bumpage parallel with Mrs Jackcrawfish's bumpage experience.

CHASE       08/18/2008   Equifax
WACHOVIACC  08/18/2008   Equifax
USBK        08/07/2008   Equifax

All above now gone from EQ


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jackcrawfish said:jackcrawfish said:markkundinger said:jackcrawfish said:I was denied my Wells Fargo application initially. Wells Fargo credit analysts stated the credit policy is to only allow one card at a time. After confirming reopening was possible, I asked to close my $16,500 existing line to try and take advantage of an excellent BT offer on the new application. The credit rep said wait a few days for their decision on the new application.Interesting jack, and I may have missed it before but how long had the old card bene closed? i've got one that's been closed a few months. Do you know if "reopening" would require a hard inquiry? do you have a number for WF's credit ninja department?I applied while my first card was still open to test their policy of 1 card per person. Per my multiple card research, I was told:You usually can have only one Wells Fargo credit card account with you as the only cardholder.

You can close you account one day and submit an application the next day
When I called for the status of my application the credit rep confirmed their policy of 1 card per person. It was during the app status call that I requested closure of my existing 16500 card. (To your question regarding hard inquiry for reopen): I asked, "If I close my existing card (so that the new application can be considered) and I am denied, can I reopen the closed card without a hard inquiry?"

Her response was, "if the request to reopen is within 60 days of closure, a hard inquiry is not needed."

Frankly, I don't believe Wells would deny my new application and then reopen my closed line without a hard review.

YMMV


edit: 800-967-9521 is direct line to credit department
When I logged in to Wells online I can see my new card with a 8000 credit line and a closed card with a zero credit line... hmmmmm...

I decided to call to request re-open of my closed AOR1.0 line. I was told a request would be made for a "re-open review" to a manager and that someone would call me within 24 hours.

Within 4 hours, I received a call approving the reopen request of my old Wells card. The person identified herself as being from the "Wells Fargo executive office." I checked online and saw that my old credit line has been fully reinstated (16,500). woo hooooo!

I'll call to request credit line reallocation or consolidation to my newer Wells card and report my results here later (Wells new BTs are free during the 1st 30 days from new account opening). I've already drawn 7000 of the new 8000 card... I'll see how reallocation goes.
WOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just got off the phone with Wells Fargo. They consolidated 16500 AOR1.0 card limit into 8000 AOR2.0 card limit (online viewable AOR2.0 limit now 24500).

Furthermore, since I was still within the 1st 30 days of my AOR2.0 card life, they were able to ACH $13000 to checking for no fee. I'll update the CC ISSUER FAQ soon.

edit: Issuer FAQ details


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Datapoint FWIW:

Just completed my Juniper business card shuffle. (PIF on Bank Atlantic --> Move CL to Natl Parks --> Apply for Juniper business, get turned down for "too much credit with Barclays" --> Call to move Natl Parks CL to Juniper Business in order to get it approved). They said my new card should arrive in 7-10 business days.

They were quite pleasant and remarkably efficient on the phone, no one questioned my need for another business card so soon after closing the Bank Atlantic.

apologies for the temporary threadjack but this thread has become my reference for "all things Barclay's"


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here's another Barclay's datapoint for you. Pay attention to the dates. I applied on 8/22/2008 for a Farm Bureau Bank card:

I received an adverse action letter last week dated 10/17/2008 which thanked me for applying for the Farm Bureau Bank card. They were unable to approve me due to

"Sufficient credit available ...."

Reg B states "Notification of action taken, ECOA notice, and statement of specific reasons —(1) When notification is required. A creditor shall notify an applicant of action taken within 30 days after receiving a completed application concerning the creditor's approval of, counteroffer to, or adverse action on the application;"

Mrs J received two letters from Barclays also (Best Western and I Fly cards).

Upon call in (866-408-4064) I was told there were several letters which failed to go out (computer issues I was told). This 10/17/2008 letter was merely a formal notice of denial...

What would codename47 do with this information?


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jackcrawfish said:here's another Barclay's datapoint for you. Pay attention to the dates. I applied on 8/22/2008 for a Farm Bureau Bank card:

I received an adverse action letter last week dated 10/17/2008 which thanked me for applying for the Farm Bureau Bank card. They were unable to approve me due to

"Sufficient credit available ...."


Reg B states "Notification of action taken, ECOA notice, and statement of specific reasons —(1) When notification is required. A creditor shall notify an applicant of action taken within 30 days after receiving a completed application concerning the creditor's approval of, counteroffer to, or adverse action on the application;"

Mrs J received two letters from Barclays also (Best Western and I Fly cards).

Upon call in (866-408-4064) I was told there were several letters which failed to go out (computer issues I was told). This 10/17/2008 letter was merely a formal notice of denial...

What would codename47 do with this information?

did you ever receive your Farm Bureau card? In other words, was it AA (in which case I don't think there is much legally to do) or was it a very delayed denial?

I am no lawyer so I can't offer any advice of value. However, I have a feeling legal action may make it tricky to get more credit from barclays later -- that may not matter given the current plight of the promotional rate.


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I never received a card from Barclays for my Farm Bureau Bank application.

Per
FTC Practice and Procedure Manual
on the web:

...civil penalties of up to $11,000 per violation...through actions brought in federal district court

 


Although codename47 might make out filing suit in federal court to be a simple process, it's probably not worth the hassle.


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