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fwgonehobo said:I thought most card do not have max cap now. I think Glitch is B.S.izing or trying to get you double tax. Banks are cautious as ever despite billions of dollars in grant.I don’t know what you are smoking but remember it is PUFF PUFF PASS. I think you forgot the PASS part!!!


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Received a couple hard inquiries on EQ due to new bank accounts. Got a report and called to dispute, and was informed I needed to contact whoever initiated the inquiry if I felt it was unauthorized. She said they do not accept disputes of inquiries anymore.


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Glitch99 said:Check that. After calling today to find out where my new card was (its been over 2 weeks since being approved), I find out I've been 'un-approved' after a secondary review.

Need to fax in statements supporting my cash assets to be reconsidered, which I just did - fyi, statements from 8 rewards checking accounts is alot of faxing. Hopefully that will be sufficient.

But in the process I did get a direct direct number, that avoids automated menus and goes straight to the credit department (a person will answer). 866-530-9825.
And after re-faxing the statements on Monday, today I get a response from the online application status stating that I've been re-approved for $5k.


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The Google Checkout thread is long gone, so I thought I'd note this change here -

Effective May 5, GCO is increasing processing fees, and adding tiers - ranging from 2.9% - 1.9%, plus $.30/transaction, based on your monthly processing volume. This is up from a flat 2% plus $.20.

I used this to get up to the 150k annual point cap on my Citi AMEX points last December, and was planning on using it again next fall (after porcessing costs, I was still netting 1%). So much for that plan.


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And the Adverse Action bug has hit.

Three weeks after approving my new Schwab 2% account, BofA has closed everything - citing outstanding balances and "agressively" opening new accounts (19 accounts havings been opened in the past 24 months).

They didnt care that I'd just sent in banks statements showing balances 3x my outstanding debt balances specifically to support my Schwab application, or that 12 of those 19 "new" accounts are over 18 months old. They want to see my balances reduced, period, before reconsidering.

This is no surprise, except for the fact they approved my new Schwab card only three weeks ago after going through (what I though was) the secondary review process. Since I got the card I assumed everything was kosher. Plus, the fact I have about $100 in pending CashBack kind of sucks too.

I did focus my complaints on the fact that they reversed course only 3 weeks after approving the account, and that this occured on 3/23 but no one bothered to notify me (they say a letter is in the mail ). However, I was clear that I understood that closing accounts was their prerogative, and she seemed to appreciate my arguments (although it didnt do a bit of good ).

I have already submitted payments to pay down 50% of my balances (and reduce the number of accounts with balances from 4 to 2) which should update on my report at the end of the month, at which point I will ask them to reconsider. At this point, the 2% Schwab card is more valuable to me than the $30k 0% money. And 3 of my BofA cards had ex-MBNA billpay, so I'd like to keep atleast one of them active as well.


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I appreciate the update. I'm wondering if the same thing will happen with my father's Appodadorama. His BOA BT is the core of his AOR.


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peteypablo said:I appreciate the update. I'm wondering if the same thing will happen with my father's Appodadorama. His BOA BT is the core of his AOR.I had been holdign steady since drawing the BT money last September. I'm pretty sure my additional Schwab application is what attracted too much unwanted attention.


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That AA sucks. If you don’t mind sharing how much utilization we talking overall and accounts with balances? Was there a big increase in utilization lately?


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Rorer714 said:That AA sucks. If you don’t mind sharing how much utilization we talking overall and accounts with balances? Was there a big increase in utilization lately?

BofA $20,900/$24,400 limit
Citi Prof $7,290/$10,000 limit
Assoc Bank (Citi) $13,295/$15,000
US Bank $15,695/$18,000
21 accounts with $0 balance and limits totaling $113,100

The balances have been constant since last Sept, with the exception of Assoc Bank which I pulled out mid-January. But I believe it was the new application that started the ball rolling; I have a FIA soft inquiry on my EXP for the date the closed the accounts, which is the first and only inquiry from FIA on my report (I have numerous softs from "Bank of America", but none from FIA).

I also have a $89k HELOC with a reporting balance of $79,000. But they didnt seem to care about that (and its with BofA too). And I have Personal LOC with BofA for $10,500, wich remains untouched.

The A/A was based entirely on actual dollar balances, not utilization or other factors typically followed here on FW. With an income of $80k, $57k outstanding balances were too much, even after providing banks statements with over $200,000 total balances.

They also hacked my business lines, but left them open. They were reduced from $24k, $20k, and $17k down to $1,000 each. These are corporate accounts with me a guarantor, not sole prop business accounts.


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Glitch99 said:The A/A was based entirely on actual dollar balances, not utilization or other factors typically followed here on FW. With an income of $80k, $57k outstanding balances were too much, even after providing banks statements with over $200,000 total balances.

They also hacked my business lines, but left them open. They were reduced from $24k, $20k, and $17k down to $1,000 each. These are corporate accounts with me a guarantor, not sole prop business accounts.
Thanks for the info. It seems the amount owed is playing a big part now.

I had a BOA Business that just expired for 0% purchases for 12mo. I had the same offer for another of their Business cards when I logged in so I took it. My old card had 25k limit. I got a call from BOA and they grilled me pretty good. I told them to close the old card and move the 25k to the new card. The best he could do was move 15k from old card to new but left the old card open with 10k. I will max it out and then try and move the other 10k over. It seems they are making us jump through more hoops each time.


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Nevermind. I just realized all my questions were answered above.

Thanks, Glitch.


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Glitch99 said:Received a couple hard inquiries on EQ due to new bank accounts. Got a report and called to dispute, and was informed I needed to contact whoever initiated the inquiry if I felt it was unauthorized. She said they do not accept disputes of inquiries anymore.

disputing EQ inquiries online was still working a week ago.

I had 2 removed and 2 days later, 2 more


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Sounds quite harsh from BofA.. The game has definitely changed. All the usual generous issuers are cracking down hard. Maybe it's time to utilize 2nd & 3rd tier banks & CUs more heavily now.


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PolarDude said:Sounds quite harsh from BofA.. The game has definitely changed. All the usual generous issuers are cracking down hard. Maybe it's time to utilize 2nd & 3rd tier banks & CUs more heavily now.Yeah, I though I was being somewhat conservative, with $57k debt to $80k income being the only 'questionable' ratio (which I assumed bank statements would support). Heck, even AMEX hasn't touched my $20k/$6k/$18k limits dispite all their notorious hacking over the past few months .


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Fantastic. Attempting to heal my credit report, I paid off my $14k US Bank balance, which also happened to coincide with paying off the $13k 6-month promo balance on my M&T Biz card. With two large payments posting on two accounts the same day, they tried to verify the source of the payments, failed to do so, then CLOSED ALL MY ACCOUNTS!

As the CSR I spoke with said, "some overzealous newbie" attempted to verify the available funds with the source bank - and when there wasnt an adequate funds available, they failed to consider that it was because the money had already been withdrawn for the payment. He quickly (relatively, it took about 20 minutes total) verified the payments with the source banks, and restored my accounts as they were.


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Glitch, perhaps this is obvious, but who is the "they" that you allude to in the last post that closed all of your accounts? Thanks.

On a separate note, I was able to dispute Equifax inquiries online today. What's odd is that two mortgage inquiries show up on my Equifax report but not on AMEX CreditSecure.


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Venturion said:Glitch, perhaps this is obvious, but who is the "they" that you allude to in the last post that closed all of your accounts? Thanks.US Bank/Elan (who also issue the M&T cards).


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Glitch99 said:I have already submitted payments to pay down 50% of my balances (and reduce the number of accounts with balances from 4 to 2) which should update on my report at the end of the month, at which point I will ask them to reconsider. At this point, the 2% Schwab card is more valuable to me than the $30k 0% money. And 3 of my BofA cards had ex-MBNA billpay, so I'd like to keep atleast one of them active as well.All accounts updated ($13k on one account left, plus my $79k HELOC balance), so I called for reconsideration. Still a no-go, citing my new accounts over the past 2 years and total available credit. The Analyst bluntly told me to go find "one of the many, many other credit card companies" to do business with.

Anyone have a suggestion for a good CashBack card (2%+) that isnt AMEX-branded?


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Glitch99 said:The Analyst bluntly told me to go find "one of the many, many other credit card companies" to do business with.

Wow is all I have to say to that


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