New York Private Bank & Trust, the holding company of Emigrant Bancorp, Inc., unveiled a new online savings account Monday that the company claims will provide the highest interest rate in the country.
The Dollar Savings Account, available at DollarSavingsDirect.com, offers a 3.75% interest rate on minimum deposits of $1,000.
Wonder why they don't just increase the EmigrantDirect rate.
RS4Rings
Back in Rehab
posted: Aug. 25, 2008 @ 1:25p
jensenjp said: bigdinkel said: I have WAMU and they are the same rate. but dont they require checking account as well? They do but checking is free no min account, I just opened the free checking so that I can have my monthly CD interest put there. Even better is Corus 4% MM with limited check writing.
soxfan1
Eeyore
posted: Aug. 25, 2008 @ 1:32p
DavidScubadiver said: Wonder why they don't just increase the EmigrantDirect rate.
Interesting that they just start a new bank rather then offering a promo on their Emigrant Direct account. But I guess they want to get the rate chaser into this bank without raising the rates for existing customers that just don't care enough to change.
psychoslowmatic said: DavidScubadiver said: Wonder why they don't just increase the EmigrantDirect rate.
I'm pretty unhappy that there's no notice to current EmigrantDirect customers about this. Opening up an Alliant acct is now on my financial todo list.
I got an email from ED about dollarsavingsdirect.com on 8/21/2008 at 6:29pm.
Dear adam williams,
As a person who stays on top of the latest financial opportunities on the internet, we wanted to bring the 3.75% Annual Percentage Yield on our newest product to your attention:
www.DollarSavingsDirect.com
This new account requires a $1,000 minimum balance and is entirely electronic (no paper). It also uses the same easy website technology as our other internet products, along with our unrivaled security.
We are offering the HIGHEST RATE* available on the internet of 3.75% APY for this type of account.
We look forward to serving your needs.
Sincerely,
Kimberly R. Romano Director of Operations
Please do not reply to this e-mail as your reply will go to an unmonitored mailbox. If you have any questions go to www.dollarsavingsdirect.com or call Customer Service at 1-866-395-8693, seven days a week, 8:00 AM - 11:30 PM ET.
FDIC Logo � 2008 DollarSavingsDirect, a division of Emigrant Bank, Member FDIC.
*Highest Nationally Advertised Annual Percentage Yield for day of deposit to day of withdrawal savings accounts with no fees and $1000 minimum.
Annual Percentage Yield is effective August 8, 2008 and is subject to change.
mlrtime23
Happy Member
posted: Aug. 26, 2008 @ 11:02a
I tried to open an account and fund it with my Emigrant Direct account and they would not take the ED routing number.
They sure aren't making it easy for existing customers to get the better rate.
Imacyco
Happy Member
posted: Aug. 26, 2008 @ 11:53a
Does anyone know if opening one involves being subjected to a hard credit pull?
Thanks.
Trance99
Member
posted: Aug. 27, 2008 @ 5:39p
Sounds like they are FDIC insured?
Better deal than WAMU as I didn't want to open checking.
Trance99
Member
posted: Aug. 27, 2008 @ 5:40p
Imacyco said: Does anyone know if opening one involves being subjected to a hard credit pull?
Thanks.
It's just chex system I believe.
ChrisF
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 27, 2008 @ 10:01p
soxfan1 said: DavidScubadiver said: Wonder why they don't just increase the EmigrantDirect rate.
The Emigrant has no minimum balance requirements.
Emigrant could just do $0-$1000 at 3% and then 3.75% for 1000$. They're trying to get the best of both worlds. Keep the money from people who don't know that they can get a better rate than 3%. Get more deposits from the rate shoppers by offering more competitive rates.
Boiler
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Aug. 27, 2008 @ 10:23p
So we can pretty much bag ED then. I have a few dollars in ED but might as well close it out.
thok
Tired Member
posted: Aug. 27, 2008 @ 11:23p
scott1961 said: jensenjp said: bigdinkel said: I have WAMU and they are the same rate. but dont they require checking account as well? They do but checking is free no min account, I just opened the free checking so that I can have my monthly CD interest put there. Even better is Corus 4% MM with limited check writing.
And you get free checks and a free debit card and free outgoing wire transfers...
jdopple
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Aug. 27, 2008 @ 11:38p
Withdrawing Funds and Limitations You may make a withdrawal from your Account through electronic funds transfer to the External Account by logging on to our Web site. You may not withdraw funds by any other means. Amounts withdrawn from an Account will be deducted from the Account balance and cease accruing interest on the business day of the withdrawal. Saturdays, Sundays, and Legal Holidays are not considered business days. Under certain limited circumstances, DollarSavingsDirect, in its sole discretion, may allow non-ACH outgoing domestic wire transfers to the External Account.
----------------------------------------------------------- This seems odd. Does that preclude an ACH pull from another account??
jdopple said: Withdrawing Funds and Limitations You may make a withdrawal from your Account through electronic funds transfer to the External Account by logging on to our Web site. You may not withdraw funds by any other means. Amounts withdrawn from an Account will be deducted from the Account balance and cease accruing interest on the business day of the withdrawal. Saturdays, Sundays, and Legal Holidays are not considered business days. Under certain limited circumstances, DollarSavingsDirect, in its sole discretion, may allow non-ACH outgoing domestic wire transfers to the External Account.
----------------------------------------------------------- This seems odd. Does that preclude an ACH pull from another account??
not odd. yes.
Dealguy123
Senior Member - 2K
posted: Aug. 28, 2008 @ 10:20a
Anyone gotten more info from dollarsavingsdirect? Is the "rollover" an easy process?
I have a chunk at EmigrantDirect and am debating whether it's worth it or not.. One thing is that it says you can link 2 external accts to EmigrantDirect. Perhaps they won't be such nazi's about ACH transfers as EmigrantDirect..? Anyone with more info? Thanks.
jdopple
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Aug. 28, 2008 @ 10:10p
Squeezer99 said: jdopple said: Withdrawing Funds and Limitations You may make a withdrawal from your Account through electronic funds transfer to the External Account by logging on to our Web site. You may not withdraw funds by any other means. Amounts withdrawn from an Account will be deducted from the Account balance and cease accruing interest on the business day of the withdrawal. Saturdays, Sundays, and Legal Holidays are not considered business days. Under certain limited circumstances, DollarSavingsDirect, in its sole discretion, may allow non-ACH outgoing domestic wire transfers to the External Account.
----------------------------------------------------------- This seems odd. Does that preclude an ACH pull from another account??
not odd. yes.
I have no other account that prohibits that. I didn't even know it was legal.
thok
Tired Member
posted: Aug. 28, 2008 @ 11:11p
jdopple said: Squeezer99 said: jdopple said: This seems odd. Does that preclude an ACH pull from another account??
not odd. yes.
I have no other account that prohibits that. I didn't even know it was legal.
Never heard of it either. No idea on legality, but it certainly seems odd to me.
Treffen
Senior Member
posted: Sep. 1, 2008 @ 5:53p
jdopple said: Withdrawing Funds and Limitations You may make a withdrawal from your Account through electronic funds transfer to the External Account by logging on to our Web site. You may not withdraw funds by any other means. Amounts withdrawn from an Account will be deducted from the Account balance and cease accruing interest on the business day of the withdrawal. Saturdays, Sundays, and Legal Holidays are not considered business days. Under certain limited circumstances, DollarSavingsDirect, in its sole discretion, may allow non-ACH outgoing domestic wire transfers to the External Account.
----------------------------------------------------------- This seems odd. Does that preclude an ACH pull from another account??
Yep.
To me it's a pain in the butt. To them it's a 'security feature.'
Emigrant started this practice on the original Emigrant Direct account, contrary to the written account disclosure in place at the time and without warning, causing peoples ACH transfers to bounce.
Their response to the outcries was: "Sorry for any inconvenience."
PS. E-loan savings doesn't allow ACH pulls either, although that was clear and properly disclosed from the beginning
So now Emigrant is going to start a new bank every time they decide to raise rates? When they lower rates will they merge the two?
Emigrant could be creating this bank to secure a name that more aptly describes their business. My few experiences wearing my EmigrantDirect.com hat elicited many a question about the nature of the website, and with a name like Dollarsavingsdirect.com no explanation is necessary which could possibly translate into more deposits.
It would be nice to be able to place my cash in a single account and not have to worry about keeping tabs on the yields of competing HYS banks, but I suppose the free market precludes this from happening.
mlrtime23 said: I tried to open an account and fund it with my Emigrant Direct account and they would not take the ED routing number.
They sure aren't making it easy for existing customers to get the better rate.
EmigrantDirect accounts don't support ACH withdrawals. No other bank can 'pull' from it; it has to 'push'. You *might* be able to hook ED up to your new DSD account, but maybe not (you'll probably need to mail in a check, like you do with ED).
(This is from my own experience, but I doubt has changed).
doglar
Thrifty Member
posted: Sep. 6, 2008 @ 11:17a
I was keeping my Emigrant account open thinking they would definitely offer a good rate as the rates go back up. Since the bank (ED) is not raising the interest on their current account, but starting a new bank instead I suggest that we all close our accounts at ED and open an account at dollarsavings... to discourage this type of thing by a bank hopefully, all the overhead involved in closing the accounts and opening new accounts will not be profitable for the bank. I would open the new account first which should make it easier on a patriot act stand point (and soft/hard pulls) then close the ED account
MaddHatter
Senior Member
posted: Sep. 6, 2008 @ 11:55a
doglar said: I was keeping my Emigrant account open thinking they would definitely offer a good rate as the rates go back up. Since the bank (ED) is not raising the interest on their current account, but starting a new bank instead I suggest that we all close our accounts at ED and open an account at dollarsavings... to discourage this type of thing by a bank hopefully, all the overhead involved in closing the accounts and opening new accounts will not be profitable for the bank. I would open the new account first which should make it easier on a patriot act stand point (and soft/hard pulls) then close the ED account
Well, that sounds fine and all, except for those of us using their 1.4% CashBack card. Whatever their strategy, it seems giving a rip about their credit card didn't factor in.
OTOH, as CWs probably destined to turn uncompetitive, if DSD holds up I may pull my moratorium on new accounts, open one, but will still leave 10k in ED.
Why oh why did they not just "convert" everything ED into this DSD and save current customers the BS hassle?
and noticed one of the advertisements on the right side is dollarsavingsdirect.com (refresh until it shows up)... It shows DollarSavingsDirect at 4.00% APY, but when you click on it, it takes you to their homepage at 3.75%.
WaMu just lowered their rate to 3%. I think it might be time to move some of my money to a new DSD account, 4% is pretty good. I may wait though, with the .5% cut to interest rates today I wouldn't be surprised if these numbers start changing.
UnixLab
Senior Member
posted: Oct. 8, 2008 @ 7:08p
Since it doesn't allow pull from other bank. How long does it take to push money out? And I assume you can still push in, right?
chatanp
Addicted Member
posted: Oct. 8, 2008 @ 8:44p
UnixLab said: Since it doesn't allow pull from other bank. How long does it take to push money out? And I assume you can still push in, right?
Yes, you can push in.
How longer depends on the financial institution you are pushing from.
-cp
gldpurd
Member
posted: Oct. 9, 2008 @ 3:30a
UnixLab said: Since it doesn't allow pull from other bank. How long does it take to push money out? And I assume you can still push in, right?
No one has answered your question about pushing out (I suspect the account is too new for anyone to have much experience with it), so I'll volunteer the following:
With Emigrant Direct (the same bank and virtually the same account except for the interest rate), if you schedule a withdrawal by 4:00 p.m. or 5:00 p.m. (I forget which) on a business day, the amount is withdrawn from your ED account the following business day and appears in your external account the same day it is withdrawn, so you lose no interest if the external account earns interest.
I suggest that you try a small test withdrawal and see for yourself before you make any plans. I would recommend this with any new bank account you open, even if you get reports from others on how it worked for them.
UnixLab
Senior Member
posted: Oct. 9, 2008 @ 9:50a
Thanks gldpurd for your answer
craig10x
Senior Member - 5K
posted: Oct. 9, 2008 @ 12:02p
eviljim said: WaMu just lowered their rate to 3%. I think it might be time to move some of my money to a new DSD account, 4% is pretty good. I may wait though, with the .5% cut to interest rates today I wouldn't be surprised if these numbers start changing.
You make an excellent point....why hurry to get into this one quick since there was just an interest rate cut and they could drop the rate down now..it is not like they are "locking it in" for a set period of time.....
lovely
Senior Member
posted: Oct. 9, 2008 @ 12:37p
I'm trying to open up an account but can't figure out if I can put my brother who doesnt live in the States as beneficiary. Anyone know if this is possible? I don't see another country listed on the mailing address for beneficiary info page.
ccrzhh
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Oct. 9, 2008 @ 5:29p
Refusal to Permit Withdrawal The Bank may refuse to permit withdrawals in cases such as, but not limited to, the following: 1. The Bank chooses to exercise its legal rights to require up to 60 days advance written notice of any intended withdrawal (!!!) from this Account and the 60 days have not passed since we received the required notice from you; ...or 8. An equipment problem or Act of God, including, but not limited to, war, strike, act of terrorism which prevents the Bank from determining the availability of funds.
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