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deallover
- Ancient Member
posted: Oct. 9, 2008 @ 10:47a
jonsback said:Mithrin said: Your other potential leverage in this situation is the appraisal and financing. If you haven't gotten financing yet, and the appraisal comes in at a lower price, you might regain some bargaining power. Have your lawyer check the contract for what happens to your 17K if the appraisal comes in lower than the sale price. If it favors you, you might get the builder to agree to adjust the sale price to match the appraisal.
We just purchased at the end of July 2008 and the appraisal came in under the sales price, so Richmond adjusted the price to make the sale. Your saving grace will be the appraisal as the lender will not allow the higher sales price unless the buyer is willing to pay it. So I think it is a good idea to get my home appraised closer to the closing time. Builder can always argue that appraiser has worked the numbers in my favor and their appraiser might appraise it even higher. How to counter that? |
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xarien
- Ancient Member
posted: Oct. 9, 2008 @ 11:21a
deallover said:jonsback said:Mithrin said: Your other potential leverage in this situation is the appraisal and financing. If you haven't gotten financing yet, and the appraisal comes in at a lower price, you might regain some bargaining power. Have your lawyer check the contract for what happens to your 17K if the appraisal comes in lower than the sale price. If it favors you, you might get the builder to agree to adjust the sale price to match the appraisal.
We just purchased at the end of July 2008 and the appraisal came in under the sales price, so Richmond adjusted the price to make the sale. Your saving grace will be the appraisal as the lender will not allow the higher sales price unless the buyer is willing to pay it.
So I think it is a good idea to get my home appraised closer to the closing time.
Builder can always argue that appraiser has worked the numbers in my favor and their appraiser might appraise it even higher. How to counter that? You don't need to argue it as it directly correlates to the lender lending you the money. |
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UrsaMajor
- Tired Member
posted: Oct. 9, 2008 @ 6:24p
deallover said:UrsaMajor said:Why can't you view at it saving 60k if houses are 100k more in same area? Your builder may not want to bargain if they're saying lose the upfront cash and rewrite a contract.
That is one way to look at it but those other homes are bigger with a larger lot. So if I compare few homes that are lower in price (about 50 of them Vs. 300 big ones), then I am sitting at the peak.
Like I mentioned, builder is slashing price on inventory homes right now to get rid of them before the year end.
Also, they are offering 5.25% for life financing if you buy inventory home but refuse to give that rate to me. Duh! they have you boxed in and you're not in a position to wiggle much. Sure go elsewhere and get a house at the same price... If you KNEW how to negotiate (most FWF people demand and threaten, gets you nowhere) you could still make out ahead with your current buy, but I doubt you can. Just pay price, get your house and live your life. Believe me builders have VERY thick skins. Builder needs to sell off inventory likely to clear it off the books and stay solvent even if its break even or loss to them. Honor your agreement, get your kid to school within the timeframe and move on. Don't be a jerk, piker or deadbeat. |
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mannyv
- Senior Member
posted: Oct. 10, 2008 @ 11:58a
deallover said:xarien said:Do you have any contingencies left on the house or have they all been removed? Having an active financing or appraisal contingency will swing the favor largely to your corner as you can take your EMD back.
Builder did not allow any contingency but I will check the contract tonight. That is a very good point.

Also, I will get the appraisal done. If they use current comparables, my house would definitely come lower than the current price. One thing to remember is that the builder needs you more than you need the builder. They may have a note out on the anticipated closing of your house that's providing financing for them. If you back out, that note might come due. You really have all kinds of leverage, but the only way to exercise that leverage is to threaten to walk away...unless you found a contingency. Are you financing through the builder, or through a bank? If the latter, you can use the bank as leverage. |
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Xnarg
- Graceful Member
posted: Oct. 10, 2008 @ 1:13p
If the situation were reversed, say the market went up and it was the builder who wanted to get out of a firm contract because he could get a better price, would that be fair? |
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gosocks
- Senior Member
posted: Oct. 10, 2008 @ 1:17p
xarien said:deallover said:jonsback said:Mithrin said: Your other potential leverage in this situation is the appraisal and financing. If you haven't gotten financing yet, and the appraisal comes in at a lower price, you might regain some bargaining power. Have your lawyer check the contract for what happens to your 17K if the appraisal comes in lower than the sale price. If it favors you, you might get the builder to agree to adjust the sale price to match the appraisal.
We just purchased at the end of July 2008 and the appraisal came in under the sales price, so Richmond adjusted the price to make the sale. Your saving grace will be the appraisal as the lender will not allow the higher sales price unless the buyer is willing to pay it.
So I think it is a good idea to get my home appraised closer to the closing time.
Builder can always argue that appraiser has worked the numbers in my favor and their appraiser might appraise it even higher. How to counter that?
You don't need to argue it as it directly correlates to the lender lending you the money. OP stated that there were no contingencies in the contract. The only way not being able to get a loan would factor in is: #1 There is a finance contingency or #2 The builder will deal to get the deal done instead of just taking the deposit and selling the house to someone else. |
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gosocks
- Senior Member
posted: Oct. 10, 2008 @ 1:18p
Xnarg said:If the situation were reversed, say the market went up and it was the builder who wanted to get out of a firm contract because he could get a better price, would that be fair? Who cares about fair? |
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