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PANNYS AOR 1.0 - Both personal and business

Primary Goal is to get as much credit lines as possible with 0$ BT or similar offers. I will be going for both Personal and Business Cards. I also plan to do a follow up AOR as soon as I can within a few months if possible to further increase lines.

I will continue to try to read more and tweak this as best as possible in the next few days, then hopefully my transunion that I am waiting on will update and show my paid off existing credit card balances. I will update as I move along or any other info I put. If anything needs clarification, please let me know.

BIO-
Age- 27
Single
Credit history length- 5 yrs avg. (14 yrs oldest acct- from a Marshall Fields charge card)
Personal income- 85K (I have been in school my whole life & made this last year on eBay)
HHI - 180k (I live with parents)

DEBTS-
School Loans- 270K (no, not 27K, but 270K) - all currently on deferment
I have no other expenses or debt - no car, no rent, no mortgage

CREDIT DATA-
As of 11/5/08, my credit scores are:

770 Experian- # INQUIRIES 4 - citi 8/08, 2/08 cbna, 6/07 hsbc, 3/07 discover
801 Equifax- # INQUIRIES 3 - DirecTV 1/08, us bank 8/07, charter1 8/07
774 Transunion # INQUIRIES 4 - 1st USA 10/08, Barclays 8/07, 1st USA 6/07, citi 6/07

CURRENT CREDIT CARDS

Current Accounts prior to AOR-( CL, balance, opened)

Citi Dividend- 14450, yr2000
Citi platinum select- 5000, yr2007
Discover 1- 5850, 200 balance, yr1999
Discover 2- 5800, 510 balance, yr2000
US Bank NWA- 10500, yr2007
AMEX Blue- 24900, yr2004
Chase 1- 2500, yr2006
Chase 2- 8000, 480 balance, yr2000
Key- 700, yr2006
B of A- 5900, yr2001
**Advanta Business- 14500, 400 balance-- this is currently my ONLY business line, yr2003
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10 personal cards, 1 business Total $1,600 bal avg. 5 yrs old

--------------------------- 98.1K total CL (83,600 personal, 14,500 business)-----------------


PRE - AOR- I had 11K in credit card balances, last week paid down to $1,500. I also disputed all credit reports based on balances reported so that reflects ASAP. (Experian and Equifax already show, just waiting on TU now). I also did soft CLI on all cards that I could.

NEW CARDS I WANT TO APPLY FOR in AOR 1.0:

BUSINESS & PERSONAL IN ORDER OF APPLICATION

EX/TU- AMEX Business Platinum- Call in $200 credit- targeted Preapproved Offer ($450 annual fee)------ declined, i called in and had them pull another credit report (they tried to pull experian initially (which is FROZE), when i called they pulled TU...------------------------------ APPROVED
Citi Business- 0%BT, NO FEE, 15K TY points ---------------------------------------------------- DEFERRED- just called in and they say they cannot pull another report from EQ or TU... BOOOO
Amex Blue Cash- 0% pur 1 yr, 1.5% CB---------------------------------------------------- DECLINED- We have declined your application. We currently limit the number and type of American Express products we issue per person and you have met the current limit. An important notice concerning your rights is included. The creditor is American Express Centurion Bank.
TU- 5/3 business card- might be regional- 0/0 1 yr ----------------------------------------------------------------- DEFERRED- online form was submitted, but when i called to check on it no record of the app, so i applied over the phone.
TU- Bank atlantic business- juniper 0%BT 15 mo, $75 fee-------------------------------------------- 24K INSTANT APPROVAL
TU- Chase Business - 0% pur, 1% Rebate on purchases ---------------------------------------------------------------- DEFERRED- REJECT
EQ- visa plat baylor- us bank 0%BT 1 yr NO FEE IF BT WITH APP http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/finance/874344 --------------------------------------------------- DEFERRED
Citi Associated- http://www.citibank.com/us/cards/cardserv/associated/index.htm 0%BT/0 fee --------------------------------------------------- DEFERRED
citi pro 0/0 --------------------------------------------------- DEFERRED
TU- juniper i fly- barclays 0%BT 12 mo, $50 fee--------------------------------------------------- 12.5K INSTANT APPROVAL
TU- chase disney (thanks rabbit) 0%BT 1 yr, $75 fee --------------------------------------------------- DEFERRED-- approved -- 23K
EQ- http://www.usbank.com/cgi_w/cfm/creditcards/rewards/business/platinum_rewards.cfm - usbank business , 0 pur, 1% cb 6 mo.------------------------------------------ DECLINED, called to clarify business name, APPROVED - 19K
EX-BofA Plat Plus 0%BT/0fee --------------------------------------------------- DEFERRED-- just called in and they say they cannot pull another report from EQ or TU... BOOOO-- after unfrozen, 20K
EQ, TU- capital 1 business- cashback 0% pur til 12/09, 1% CB---------------------------- INSTANT APPROVAL- 5k--
TU- DISCOVER BUSINESS- 0pur til june 2009 (250 CashBack bonus when i spend 4K within first 3 months) -------------------------------------------- APPROVED- $6.5


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NEW LINES POST-AOR: so far... 110.0K

TOTAL CREDIT LINES with OLD AND NEW AOR CARDS- 208.1K

My questions I am still a bit unsure about:

1-How will the inquiries affect my AOR; I have 3 or 4 on each credit report as noted above? It is not imperative that I B* right now is it? I plan on using B* after this AOR.

2-I want to prevent as much as possible any adverse reaction to this AOR. I am particularly talking about Citi and AMEX, as I have been reading some people say if too many citi apps that citi shuts down all their lines. AMEX I have read about slashing lines and cards. Do my citi and AMEX apps look ok?

2A- on my credit report, my crappy Key card with $700 limit says "key/citi" - will this count as a citi card, and if so should i cancel this account prior to AOR? Or should I just wait til after the AOR? leave as is now

3-I already have an Advanta business Card, will they let me have another card? I think I read somewhere that you can only have 1 business with Advanta; I will try to find that and update. 1 card allowed for advanta

4-I have a targeted offer for a Business Platinum Card AMEX- get $200 credit with first purchase. I am going to be traveling a lot too next year so I want this card for airport lounge access. Should I launch my AOR with a phoned in app. And then just roll along online with everything else? ok

5-I know business credit cards do not show on personal credit reports, but I think I read somewhere AMEX might look at both? Can anyone clear this up as to how AMEX works? I want to apply for as many AMEX cards as I can total --without having a problem as I have seen drastically reduced CL recently from AMEX from others posts.

6- Are there any cards business or personal that would be good additions to this? Any tips are appreciated.

7- For BofA, I just tried their pre approved offers- and NOTHING show up for me. Should I can all BA apps bc of this? no

8- I have a US bank line opened last year, do they allow for 2 accounts? yes

THANKS- Hindustani AOR 1.0 & 2.0 are the two AOR I used as a model for mine. I used a few cards from his AORs and wanted to give credit where it is due. I hope someone in the future can model their AOR on mine. I also read so many others over the past few months, so much valuable info out there so thank you.

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MOST if not all links should be operational

BofA Plat Plus on advice of lavigne. thanks 0/0 card

thanks rabbit for the chase Disney card

Equifax up to 801!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

19-Kroger- RBS 0%BT 1 yr, 3% - removed

16-HSBC Weekend – 0% pur and BT 1 yr, 2% CB on weekend pur, removed- thanks to this thread... maybe i wont apply for the weekend card

from glitch.... https://www.53business.com/card_applications/new?card_offer=1441 They are a local bank for me and i have a checking account with them. does that make any difference? I made the initial 100$ deposit to the account and haven't used it since though, just sitting there incubating in case i needed it one day. If they give out decent limits though i would def consider it.

11/08/08- received 2 pieces of mail from AMEX- 1 is a pre approved offer for a Gold Card with $200 credit when you spend 1500 in first 3 months. My platinum offer is for $200 off the first purchase so i will stick with that. Last week I did a CLI from 24K to 24,900 so I got the letter in the mail today about it. With everyone's news about AMEX, I would rather not get mail from AMEX these days!

11-9-08- waiting for TU to clear up my balances... once this happens AOR will launch the next day
11-9-08- froze experian

11/14- i have to wait to get my pin to unfreeze experian so the BA and citi apps can go through. i wish i would have done this earlier, but now i know. to anyone one out about to do an AOR, if you freeze your experian make sure and request the pin asap so you have it and are ready to go. Thus far, I have had 2 EQ inquiries, 5 TU inquiries, and ZERO Experian. That will change however when i get the pin to unfreeze it. Not too bad as far as inquiries go.

11/15- mailed in dispute form to TU(chase and capital 1) and EQ (usbank and capital 1) to try to get inquires off

11/20- i have overlooked that i had the experian pin the whole time. i was careless and had a messy desktop. you can never be organized enough with this stuff. i unfroze. i called citi and they are now processing my app. I called citi business and ditto. Called BofA and they wanted me to submit another application, but i said i would prefer not to since its a 0/0 offer. They said to call back but it should be looked at tomorrow ( friday). I am probably going to BofA tomorrow in person to apply for a business card.

Message edited by: panasonictech on 2008-11-20 21:28:48 CST
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Sorry to not contribute, but... how the hell does someone get $270,000 in student loans?


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Here's the ones I know:

2-I want to prevent as much as possible any adverse reaction to this AOR. I am particularly talking about Citi and AMEX, as I have been reading some people say if too many citi apps that citi shuts down all their lines. AMEX I have read about slashing lines and cards. Do my citi and AMEX apps look ok?

Don't apply for cards with a 3% fee and no cap. It's a waste of an app.

2A- on my credit report, my crappy Key card with $700 limit says "key/citi" - will this count as a citi card, and if so should i cancel this account prior to AOR? Or should I just wait til after the AOR?

No don't bother. Just leave it.

3-I already have an Advanta business Card, will they let me have another card? I think I read somewhere that you can only have 1 business with Advanta; I will try to find that and update.

Only one allowed. You will have to cancel, then reapply.

4-I have a targeted offer for a Business Platinum Card AMEX- get $200 credit with first purchase. I am going to be traveling a lot too next year so I want this card for airport lounge access. Should I launch my AOR with a phoned in app. And then just roll along online with everything else?

I have done a combo before, I do not think it matters.

7- For BofA, I just tried their pre approved offers… and NOTHING show up for me. Should I can all BA apps bc of this?

No, but limit the BOA cards to a 0/0 card. No 3% fee or even the NEA card. Waste of an app.

8- I have a US bank line opened last year, do they allow for 2 accounts?

Yes. I have a baylor and a platinum card that I maxed out on my last AOR and both steadily increased my CL even being fully utilized.


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Curious about this card. looked up online, but it does not mention anything about being a no fee BT offer.

State Farm Card- 0% BT 9 months, NO FEE

Who are the underwriters or is it by their direct offer?
Thx!


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$85K on eBay alone? That's a nice business. What do you sell?


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JTFH said:Sorry to not contribute, but... how the hell does someone get $270,000 in student loans?

It's a small world so I do not care to go into fine details, but it happens by going to a medical-related professional school in a big city. I failed a class my 3rd yr, failed remediation test, and here I am now living in my parents house with 270K in student loans. Last year at this time I had 50K in credit card debt too, paid that off though as of last week!

Most of the students at the school take out 80-90K a year, over 4 yrs. I was not extraordinary, my loans were just like everyone else who didn't have parents to write the tuition check.


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dealcather said:Curious about this card. looked up online, but it does not mention anything about being a no fee BT offer.

State Farm Card- 0% BT 9 months, NO FEE

Who are the underwriters or is it by their direct offer?
Thx!

State Farm Visa

it's the good neighbor visa:

Balance Transfer: No fee for Balance Transfers made within the first 90 days of account opening, thereafter 3% of amount of transaction ($5 minimum, $75 maximum)

Credit to Hindustani I copied from his AOR 1.0


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Why are you getting so many 0 apr on PURCHASES cards? Are you able to take advantage of them via your eBay buying and selling?

Also, which card is this "Baylor alumni - us bank- 0%BT 1 yr NO FEE IF BT WITH APP- check many us bank/ repeat" I checked the Baylor Alumni cards and couldn't find anything with a 1 year term...

Are you going through any websites to get extra bonuses?
Cardoffer.com etc...


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I would avoid Suntrust and Statefarm, even HSBC for BT. HSBC give lousy limits and so does Statefarm plus the latter pulls 3 CR's. Suntrust takes forever to respond and later denied me. Try RBS, very generous with me and also Bank Atlantic.
I am amazed how you managed to pay $50k in one year with a income of $90K. u must live a very frugal life


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pyro123 said:I would avoid Suntrust and Statefarm, even HSBC for BT. HSBC give lousy limits and so does Statefarm plus the latter pulls 3 CR's. Suntrust takes forever to respond and later denied me. Try RBS, very generous with me and also Bank Atlantic.
I am amazed how you managed to pay $50k in one year with a income of $90K. u must live a very frugal life

... or... I moved back in with my parents and have only 1 other bill besides those cards, $33 a month to Sprint (which I recently got $100 in credits for renewing)

The last card listed, the kroger card is an RBS card. No cap on the BT though. Any cards in particular you can suggest? for bank atlantic i added 1 business and 1 personal card. thank you

And about suntrust and statefarm, i just threw those up there sort of on the fence about them, i wanted to see what others opinions were so thank you for you input on that. EDIT- too suntrust off for now, might remove state farm as well

About HSBC, I have had a card or 2 from them in years past (like 3-5 yrs ago), they were closed due to inactivity. ( This was before I was enlightened about al this AOR stuff)


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GreyRabbit said:Why are you getting so many 0 apr on PURCHASES cards? Are you able to take advantage of them via your eBay buying and selling?

Also, which card is this "Baylor alumni - us bank- 0%BT 1 yr NO FEE IF BT WITH APP- check many us bank/ repeat" I checked the Baylor Alumni cards and couldn't find anything with a 1 year term...

Are you going through any websites to get extra bonuses?
Cardoffer.com etc...

to answer you qn in reverse order:

yes i am getting $90 cash for the dis and AMEX business cards, they are the 2nd and 3rd listed on the business cards. is there other extra bonuses that i am missing out on? please inform me if that is the case i may have overlooked it.

its the visa platinum Baylor card, visa plat Baylor- us bank

about 0% pur cards.... most i have listed should have at least a 1% Cash Back on purch, run through my google checkout, which is 2%-- ends up costing me 1%. also, you are correct with my eBay stuff, i use my cards for purchases, as well as everyday purchases i probably ran though maybe 100K in purchases last year. kind of upset that my NWA us bank card only gives 1 mile for every $2 after 50K though per year.


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Equifax updated this evening to 801


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I want to launch this on Monday, but I just noticed it is Veterans Day...

Should I wait until Tuesday then?

If anyone knows please let me know, thanks.


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After the AA I experienced (and others) with AMEX, I am going to totally skip AMEX on my next AOR in a week or two. In the past HSBC has been very finiky with lines (giving $600 on 210K HHI on my wifes AOR). State farm and kroger have also denied others in the past for "excessive inqs"


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dmlavigne1 said:After the AA I experienced (and others) with AMEX, I am going to totally skip AMEX on my next AOR in a week or two. In the past HSBC has been very finiky with lines (giving $600 on 210K HHI on my wifes AOR). State farm and kroger have also denied others in the past for "excessive inqs"

thanks, i will look into those. i might can hsbc and take off one of the amexs. i think i removed state farm already, and kroger didnt have a cap so it was on the edge of the fence.

my Equifax jumped to over 800 now (never thought the day would come , esp with my 270K in student loans.) i just want to avoid income verification at all costs.


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panasonictech said:I want to launch this on Monday, but I just noticed it is Veterans Day...

Should I wait until Tuesday then?
Tuesday is Veterans Day....

(And it really wont matter)


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nm - Glitch99 was faster.


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Glitch99 said:panasonictech said:I want to launch this on Monday, but I just noticed it is Veterans Day...

Should I wait until Tuesday then?
Tuesday is Veterans Day....

(And it really wont matter)

thanks, the calendar says monday vets day (observed), and the actual day then is tuesday.

i saw that 5/3 card you posted, they are local to me and i might add this to my lineup. does anyone know what kind of credit lines they give out?


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panasonictech said:Glitch99 said:panasonictech said:I want to launch this on Monday, but I just noticed it is Veterans Day...

Should I wait until Tuesday then?
Tuesday is Veterans Day....

(And it really wont matter)


thanks, the calendar says monday vets day (observed), and the actual day then is tuesday.

i saw that 5/3 card you posted, they are local to me and i might add this to my lineup. does anyone know what kind of credit lines they give out?

I have two cards with them one with a 13k limit and the other with a 14.5K limit, right off the bat they gave me pretty large lines then upped them without request over time.


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