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Today's activity: Both B of A and National City called today to make sure that there was no fraud. The Nat City chick seemed a little snooty about how many inq's I had and the BT amount I requested. Thing is, I've read here that requesting larger amounts often results in larger CL's. You can always pay off part of it to get to a reasonable utilization. They are still processing.

In other news, I grabbed FICO's today, TU-776, EX-720, EQ-796. 11 of the inquiries showed up on TU, yet the score went up 2 points! Someone explain that to me. EX dropped 20, EQ is also up 2, but hasn't reported the inq's yet.


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Received 4 cards today including Key Bank card with $20K line that had been deferred, and my 0% Purchase/12mo Citi card, which I will start using immediately.

I have this idea to get the most from purchase cards...use a Google checkout account (2% per transaction) and just run purchases through there, invest the cash as usual. It's a slim profit with a 3.75% online savings account, but better than nothing. Any comments are welcome.


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FirstNational said:Received 4 cards today including Key Bank card with $20K line that had been deferred, and my 0% Purchase/12mo Citi card, which I will start using immediately.

I have this idea to get the most from purchase cards...use a Google checkout account (2% per transaction) and just run purchases through there, invest the cash as usual. It's a slim profit with a 3.75% online savings account, but better than nothing. Any comments are welcome.

Buy State Farm gift cards. Buying $500 cards is $4.95 and unloading the money back to your account is $1.00. You get the float and pay 1.19% instead of Google's 2%.


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I wouldn't bother with doing Google Checkout paying 2%. Since the 2% is paid upfront, the 3.75% is paid only on the remaining 98%, making the gross margin less than 1.75%. Since the 3.75% interest will be taxable income at your highest marginal rate, you might pay the government around 1-1.5%. That is assuming you can keep up the 3.75% savings rate the whole time in a dropping interest rate environment. You might only break even here.


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Couple of declined notices today, Key Bank only allowing 1 app in 60 days, Sun Trust I was too late with I guess.

Approved for Advanta Business, but the CL is only $2500, which, with interest rates so low, is not enough to make it profitable -- too bad since it's a 15-month deal. I activated and tried love button to no avail. Maybe I'll put a few purchases on it and try again, depends on what the rejection letter says.

Approved BofA Business MC $10,500.

Still hoping to get my total CL to $1/2 Million.


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FirstNational said:Received 4 cards today including Key Bank card with $20K line that had been deferred, and my 0% Purchase/12mo Citi card, which I will start using immediately.

I have this idea to get the most from purchase cards...use a Google checkout account (2% per transaction) and just run purchases through there, invest the cash as usual. It's a slim profit with a 3.75% online savings account, but better than nothing. Any comments are welcome.

Why not sign up for one of the rewards checking accounts that yields between 5-6% for between $25k-$50k of your balance?


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tmolloy said:Why not sign up for one of the rewards checking accounts that yields between 5-6% for between $25k-$50k of your balance?

I haven't looked too closely at those, but seems like even a meticulous financial geek like myself would have trouble keeping all the requirements going.


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FirstNational said:
Approved BofA Business MC $10,500.


Was this through mailed offer? Or did you have to go to the banking center for application?
Either way, I remember people saying BOA biz will report to personal CR even w/o defaulting it..
Not to scare you, but just curious as I do not know for certain.
GL!


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JAGLUR said:FirstNational said:
Approved BofA Business MC $10,500.




Was this through mailed offer? Or did you have to go to the banking center for application?
Either way, I remember people saying BOA biz will report to personal CR even w/o defaulting it..
Not to scare you, but just curious as I do not know for certain.
GL!

I have had a BOA biz for about 1 1/2 years (sole prop) and it has never reported to my personal


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It wasn't a mailed offer or anything.


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Today's update, received 2 rejections from BofA. No surprise there. Actually I was surprised that I got the 2 BofA cards I did get. I have almost $70K with them now.

I also looked closer at the rewards accounts and decided the yield is worth it. I've applied for a Charter Turbochecking account, evaluating others as well. BT money for the BofA Pet Rewards as well as the Chase Disney Rewards Visa came in today. 8 apps are still pending.


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Update: received Cap1 Business Visa today with CL of $5K. It seems they actually want businesses to make money before giving them huge credit lines. Unfortunately my real estate alter-ego has not had a paycheck this year. That CL is too small to do a BT with a no-cap 3% fee.

The tally so far: 8 approved, 9 declined, 7 still pending. My total CL is at $497K and change, still hoping to make 1/2 mil.

Jamie Dimon, CEO of J.P. Morgan Chase, was interviewed on CNBC today and said they approved $8B in new credit card CL's in the 3rd quarter of this year. I've heard the tightening stories too. Hopefully things will turn soon.


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Update: Received BOTH USBank cards today, $25K each. This is great because they are 12mo/nofee cards. When they asked for a pay stub I didn't think it was going to get approved, and I think I actually got a rejection notice at one point. Also got rejection from Nat City. Nationwide is requesting income verification, not sure which card that's about, probably both. I have to mail it in, so that will be a while. Hard to believe I haven't heard from Citi yet.

The numbers as of today: 10 approved, 10 declined, 4 pending. My total CL finally broke $1/2 mil.


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FirstNational said:That CL is too small to do a BT with a no-cap 3% fee.

Um, a no-cap 3% fee is a deal-killer with any credit limit. The bigger your limit, the bigger your potential fee. Maybe you meant capped...


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VanceWade said:FirstNational said:That CL is too small to do a BT with a no-cap 3% fee.


Um, a no-cap 3% fee is a deal-killer with any credit limit. The bigger your limit, the bigger your potential fee. Maybe you meant capped...

I can get better than 3%, but I'm not going to go to the trouble if it's only going to make me a few bucks. The absolute dollar amount is what I'm talking about. Good point though.


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Today I received my Charter signature card and I'll be sending that in with the initial deposit tomorrow.


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I received notice on Friday that both of my Nationwide apps were declined with the reason "UNABLE TO VERIFY EMPLOYMENT AS PROVIDER", which is strange, since I sent them a recent paystub. I'm going to call and check on this next week.


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FirstNational said:I received notice on Friday that both of my Nationwide apps were declined with the reason "UNABLE TO VERIFY EMPLOYMENT AS PROVIDER", which is strange, since I sent them a recent paystub. I'm going to call and check on this next week.

Any update? A new issuer is very interesting, and perhaps even worth a new thread. Or at least a note in the CC Issuer FAQ thread.


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peteypablo said:FirstNational said:Received 4 cards today including Key Bank card with $20K line that had been deferred, and my 0% Purchase/12mo Citi card, which I will start using immediately.

I have this idea to get the most from purchase cards...use a Google checkout account (2% per transaction) and just run purchases through there, invest the cash as usual. It's a slim profit with a 3.75% online savings account, but better than nothing. Any comments are welcome.


Buy State Farm gift cards. Buying $500 cards is $4.95 and unloading the money back to your account is $1.00. You get the float and pay 1.19% instead of Google's 2%.

Interesting idea. How do you get unloading for only $1.00?


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You know, I think I'll let you do the search. I'm torn between wanting to share and concern that the Fat Wallet Effect will kill yet another way of turning credit card charges to cash. There is a thread on this.


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