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Otterley said:You can then turn around and prepay the $5k back toward the principal, but, absurdly, it will not reduce your monthly payment amount. According to the CSR, they will not recalculate a monthly payment after an advance principal payment.
1. There's nothing absurd about that
2. The easy way around that for many folks is to just go with a longer payback period than you really want, set the payback period to the appropriate length to get the payment you want. For example, when I did this last year I set my payback period to the number of months so that my payment was a little lower than what it was previously, so I extended the term by 11 months or so, but I had a slightly lower payment and $5,000 cash, which I then used to pay off a much higher interest loan I had.


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Thanks OP!!! Big thanks.

5 minute online application, approved. Called, said will have check in a few days.

wOw. very cool


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I printed out the Used Auto Loan Rates, and at the bottom is an example of $10,000 @ 3.99% for 60 payments. It states the montly payment would be $195. When I put those numbers into Excel (10,000, 3.99, 60) I get monthly payments of $183.51. Is the difference a refinance charge that gets spread over the length of the loan (60 x $11.50 = $690)? To get the $195 payment, I had to up the rate to 6.6%. Or is it standard to use some other technique for computing the monthly payments?


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PhrugalPhan said:I printed out the Used Auto Loan Rates, and at the bottom is an example of $10,000 @ 3.99% for 60 payments. It states the montly payment would be $195. When I put those numbers into Excel (10,000, 3.99, 60) I get monthly payments of $183.51. Is the difference a refinance charge that gets spread over the length of the loan (60 x $11.50 = $690)? To get the $195 payment, I had to up the rate to 6.6%. Or is it standard to use some other technique for computing the monthly payments?Its probably a typo (they probably meant approx $185 since I get $184.12)

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jatan1986 said:PhrugalPhan said:I printed out the Used Auto Loan Rates, and at the bottom is an example of $10,000 @ 3.99% for 60 payments. It states the montly payment would be $195. When I put those numbers into Excel (10,000, 3.99, 60) I get monthly payments of $183.51. Is the difference a refinance charge that gets spread over the length of the loan (60 x $11.50 = $690)? To get the $195 payment, I had to up the rate to 6.6%. Or is it standard to use some other technique for computing the monthly payments?Its probably a typo (they probably meant approx $185 since I get $184.12)

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I probably used the wrong technique for computing interest, as the other method would come up with your $184.12. That said, I would check with them about this before getting the loan (not that I am in the market for this, but a co-worker is).


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PhrugalPhan said:jatan1986 said:PhrugalPhan said:I printed out the Used Auto Loan Rates, and at the bottom is an example of $10,000 @ 3.99% for 60 payments. It states the montly payment would be $195. When I put those numbers into Excel (10,000, 3.99, 60) I get monthly payments of $183.51. Is the difference a refinance charge that gets spread over the length of the loan (60 x $11.50 = $690)? To get the $195 payment, I had to up the rate to 6.6%. Or is it standard to use some other technique for computing the monthly payments?Its probably a typo (they probably meant approx $185 since I get $184.12)

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I probably used the wrong technique for computing interest, as the other method would come up with your $184.12. That said, I would check with them about this before getting the loan (not that I am in the market for this, but a co-worker is).
The loan calculator numbers are the correct ones

Heres an Excel calculator posted on FW in the past: see attachment

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ecjjones said:beatnik28 said:

I applied online this morning to re-fi an existing used auto loan, and was approved immediately. I will update this thread along the way with my experiences.


So re-fi'd and took out an additional $5K?

I currently have a penfed 4.5% car loan with them....for a Honda Fit I bought new last year (2008)...

Am seriously considering doing this...

Let me know how yours goes..

I should have worded my post more clearly. The loan I am re-fiing isn't from PenFed, it's from my local CU.

As an update, the loan I applied for yesterday (which was approved at the end of the application process) now shows as "active" and is listed under my PenFed accounts.

Message edited by: beatnik28 on 2009-02-03 01:02:53 CST
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I applied yesterday to be a member at PenFed so I can get this rate. So far, judging by their customer service, I might be happier keeping my loan with USAA. Becoming a member of PenFed has been such a PITA, and now they are saying that the information I submitted to them doesn't match my credit report that they pulled, so I have to fax in a notarized copy of my Drivers license and utility bill.

I asked them what credit report they pulled, they told me Equifax, I pulled it and it is exactly what I gave them!

</rant> ... sorry, I'm annoyed.


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brettdoyle said:Hi all. I have a 2006 Scion TC that I paid cash for. I have a clear title with my name on it. Anyone know if it would be possible to take out a loan against it as collateral? Thanks.

Yes. I applied and pending approval upon I fax the title to them showing there is no lien against it. You may have to call them to finish the application since the online application won't allow you put yourself as the payee.


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Also, note, interest rate deduction is part of the stimulus plan. If this gets passed, the 3.99% rate becomes 2.99% effectively (based on your tax rate).


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tazzy531 said:Also, note, interest rate deduction is part of the stimulus plan. If this gets passed, the 3.99% rate becomes 2.99% effectively (based on your tax rate).

Although the current bill wouldn't include used car loans, only new


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bump. for new loans anyone know if they send you a blank check or how's that work?


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amandaw33 said:bump. for new loans anyone know if they send you a blank check or how's that work?
You call them with the VIN and who to make the check out to, they will send it to you via USPS or fedex overnight it for a fee. If you want to pull up to 100% LTV, they will mail you a check for the remainder.


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amandaw33 said:bump. for new loans anyone know if they send you a blank check or how's that work?

When I purchased my Honda Fit last July, they sent me a check with the max it could be written for.


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did you guys put $$ down on the car as well - did you hand the dealer a bank check and the rest as a check from penfed?


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amandaw33 said:did you guys put $$ down on the car as well - did you hand the dealer a bank check and the rest as a check from penfed?

I put $3K down(on a penfed credit card), and then paid the rest with the penfed check.


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Thanks. I'm wondering if it's normal for a dealer to accept 2 checks as I want to put a large amt of cash down (prob too much for dealer to accept CC).


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amandaw33 said:Thanks. I'm wondering if it's normal for a dealer to accept 2 checks as I want to put a large amt of cash down (prob too much for dealer to accept CC).
We used CC (with 0%APR ) and PenFed check when buying a new car for my gf from a dealer.


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toy4two said:don't see anything restricting this to USED DEALER PURCHASE so do they allow PERSON TO PERSON PRIVATE USED PURCHASES.

Anyone doing person to person with this, I had a bad experience with used car dealers (big surprise!) and I only purchase my used cars from individuals now.

They did not restrict person-to-person transaction as of December when I was buying a car for myself. Though, it requires extra step or 2. They actually want VIN and person's name and exact amount before issuing you a check, which makes negotiating a bit more difficult if you know what I mean.


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Xeon852 said:amandaw33 said:bump. for new loans anyone know if they send you a blank check or how's that work?
You call them with the VIN and who to make the check out to, they will send it to you via USPS or fedex overnight it for a fee. If you want to pull up to 100% LTV, they will mail you a check for the remainder.

It really depends.

  • They sent a blank check with max note on it, w/o asking for make,VIN, dealer name to my gf: she was an existing customer for some time

  • They asked for all info regarding seller and vehicle being purchased before issuing me a check with preprinted info on it. I was a new customer.

I spoke to Credit dept. and they said they have a cut off credit score criteria, though both scores were almost identical (as I check them daily). My guess is it is somewhere between 720-740 OR/AND existing relationship with PenFed is considered too.


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