Seems like a great way to turn credit line into cash (e.g. if you have that 0% APY on purchases but not on BT) --- if it's not treated as cash advance. Did anyone try this?
bauzer71487
Greedy Member
posted: Feb. 8, 2009 @ 7:32p
JermanDude said: Seems like a great way to turn credit line into cash (e.g. if you have that 0% APY on purchases but not on BT) --- if it's not treated as cash advance. Did anyone try this?
I didn't think of that but I have a 0% Purch I'd love to take advantage of.
JermanDude
Member
posted: Feb. 8, 2009 @ 8:21p
Also, charging $2500 against your CC should give you anywhere between $25--50 (or more?) in cash-back --- IF it isn't treated as cash advance. Basically, this is the plastic version of the Presidential Coins deal
My bank will probably charge a atm fee for withdrawal so if I did 1,250 and 2 pts per dollar = 25 in rewards- 6 dollars in atm fees = 19 dollars profit. Not enough profit for me
JermanDude
Member
posted: Feb. 8, 2009 @ 10:48p
Donedealzz said: My bank will probably charge a atm fee for withdrawal so if I did 1,250 and 2 pts per dollar = 25 in rewards- 6 dollars in atm fees = 19 dollars profit. Not enough profit for me No need to withdraw cash at ATM if you cancel the card: They'll deposit on your checking account for no fee.
For those of us that have no kids and relatives are not close by, do you think you could select "Other" and put yourself in the "teen" info?
JermanDude
Member
posted: Feb. 9, 2009 @ 12:26a
pthor1231 said: For those of us that have no kids and relatives are not close by, do you think you could select "Other" and put yourself in the "teen" info? Interesting idea. For lack of offspring, I put in my mother (they do have 'parent' in the drop-down menu about how card holder is related to you). She's overseas and won't mind. Hell, she might like to visit her son in the US. Wouldn't it be neat if there's a Discover card waiting for her? But then, she won't make it here any time soon. Probably a good reason to cancel the card in the 1st month
Edit: typo
JermanDude
Member
posted: Feb. 9, 2009 @ 12:42a
I just applied for the card. Rather smooth sailing. The coupon code works ($5 fee off). Best of Terms and Conditions: * No fee for adding funds. They accept CC or debit (no AM-EX). * Max of $2500 / day. So if you want 3 cards * $2500, you need to make 3 transactions on 3 days (I guess). * Fee schedule doesn't contain any early-termination fee. * "If your Account is closed, we will mail you a check for the balance (less any applicable fees)." Maybe you can talk them into ACH deposit instead, the web page suggests that. What it doesn't say: 'will be credited to your credit card.' Yay!
I tried to charge $2,500 against my Citi card, and it didn't go through. The problem was with Citi, not Discover (got an alert to call Citi fraud prevention -- they're asleep right now). I ended up charging much less to my Chase debit card, which has a nice 10% cash-back promo right now. Will try a real CC later.
JermanDude said: I just applied for the card. Rather smooth sailing. The coupon code works ($5 fee off). Best of Terms and Conditions: * No fee for adding funds. They accept CC or debit (no AM-EX). * Max of $2500 / day. So if you want 3 cards * $2500, you need to make 3 transactions on 3 days (I guess). * Fee schedule doesn't contain any early-termination fee. * "If your Account is closed, we will mail you a check for the balance (less any applicable fees)." Maybe you can talk them into ACH deposit instead, the web page suggests that. What it doesn't say: 'will be credited to your credit card.' Yay!
I tried to charge $2,500 against my Citi card, and it didn't go through. The problem was with Citi, not Discover (got an alert to call Citi fraud prevention -- they're asleep right now). I ended up charging much less to my Chase debit card, which has a nice 10% cash-back promo right now. Will try a real CC later.
Thanks for the info, some good stuff there. If you don't mind, could you report back when you use a real CC and see if it is indicated as a purchase or a cash advance? I just might have to sign up for a new rebate card to churn the 7500 bucks, as my blue cash is currently my main spender.
JermanDude
Member
posted: Feb. 9, 2009 @ 1:18a
pthor1231 said: If you don't mind, could you report back ... if it is indicated as a purchase or a cash advance? Sure, will take a bit, though. How do I know if a particular transaction is considered a cash advance? Do I have to wait for the statement to know for sure, or does it say online? I've never done cash advances, so I don't know. I could phone up Citi, but I'd rather not alert them to this thing....
No limit on the funding, aside from $2500/day? With a $500/day ATM max, withdrawing $500 via ATM would cost me $1/withdrawal ($.50 from Discover, $.50 from the ATM). With a 1% CashBack card (which is the best I have right now, since they wont allow funding with an AMEX card) thats $4 profit per day, or roughly $120/month ($360/month when using the maximum 3 cards per account). Maybe it doesnt have to be a one-shot deal.....
JermanDude said: pthor1231 said: If you don't mind, could you report back ... if it is indicated as a purchase or a cash advance? Sure, will take a bit, though. How do I know if a particular transaction is considered a cash advance? Do I have to wait for the statement to know for sure, or does it say online? I've never done cash advances, so I don't know. I could phone up Citi, but I'd rather not alert them to this thing....Since you used a debit card, it should show as an ATM transaction if it was posted as a cash advance.
Chase credit cards has a "type" field for each transaction. When you view your account activity, Citi lets you filter by "transaction type', where you can choose to see only cash advances or only purchases.
JermanDude
Member
posted: Feb. 9, 2009 @ 2:20a
Glitch99 said: No limit on the funding, aside from $2500/day? With a $500/day ATM max, withdrawing $500 via ATM would cost me $1/withdrawal ($.50 from Discover, $.50 from the ATM). With a 1% CashBack card (which is the best I have right now, since they wont allow funding with an AMEX card) thats $4 profit per day, or roughly $120/month ($360/month when using the maximum 3 cards per account). Maybe it doesnt have to be a one-shot deal..... Hah, this is getting better and better! Green for you! Which ATM owner charges only $0.50? It's more like $2 where I usually go (reimbursed by Charter, usually, so I don't care).
Glitch99 said: JermanDude said: How do I know if a particular transaction is considered a cash advance?Since you used a debit card, it should show as an ATM transaction if it was posted as a cash advance.
Chase credit cards has a "type" field for each transaction. When you view your account activity, Citi lets you filter by "transaction type', where you can choose to see only cash advances or only purchases. OK, the memo posting on my debit card says "POS DEBIT DISCOVER TEEN CARD" -- looks like transaction, then!?! I'll try Citi tomorrow.
JermanDude said: OK, the memo posting on my debit card says "POS DEBIT DISCOVER TEEN CARD" -- looks like transaction, then!?! I'll try Citi tomorrow.You have to let it post first. I dont know about Chase, but some banks use a generic description until the transaction is posted.
And the $.50 is the processer's cut of the surcharge on my ATM (the surcharge is $3, but I keep $2.50 of that).
Rorer714
Senior Member
posted: Feb. 9, 2009 @ 2:32a
Excuse my ignorance but I never use ATM’s. If I use an ATM that displays the discover logo will I still be charge an ATM fee?
Rorer714 said: Excuse my ignorance but I never use ATM’s. If I use an ATM that displays the discover logo will I still be charge an ATM fee?Yes. The logos only signify what processing networks the ATM can access.
Rorer714
Senior Member
posted: Feb. 9, 2009 @ 2:49a
If I would use my Chase debit card at a Chase ATM I would not be charged an ATM fee, is this correct? Is their anywhere I can use the Discover debit card and not be charge an ATM fee?
Rorer714 said: If I would use my Chase debit card at a Chase ATM I would not be charged an ATM fee, is this correct? Most likely, yes you are correct. Is their anywhere I can use the Discover debit card and not be charge an ATM fee?No, I dont think so (unless you find an ATM that charges no fee to anyone).
gizmosun
Member
posted: Feb. 9, 2009 @ 11:31a
Glitch99 said: JermanDude said: OK, the memo posting on my debit card says "POS DEBIT DISCOVER TEEN CARD" -- looks like transaction, then!?! I'll try Citi tomorrow.You have to let it post first. I dont know about Chase, but some banks use a generic description until the transaction is posted.
And the $.50 is the processer's cut of the surcharge on my ATM (the surcharge is $3, but I keep $2.50 of that).
How do you get to keep $2.5?
If a transaction is going to be treated as a cash advance, does one immediately see the "available for cash advance" value go down? Both Chase and Citibank show this value in their websites.
sethdallob
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Feb. 9, 2009 @ 11:38a
Glitch99 said:
And the $.50 is the processer's cut of the surcharge on my ATM (the surcharge is $3, but I keep $2.50 of that).
The answer is bolded for you.
jms999
New Member
posted: Feb. 10, 2009 @ 6:27p
The way I see it this deal has essentially the same cost as anyone doing the US Mint deal and buying gift cards to get around the 2 box limit. The GGP Discover card costs $2 for 500 max per card. This deal is $2 charged by the ATM owner and 4 free per month from Discover. And 2.50 per 500 is still not bad once discover charges you after 4.
I just ordered one and will report back with my experience. I'm wondering if I'll be able to do a cash advance on the card. Going through the T&C, I don't see anything that says I wouldn't be able to. Seeing how this card is basically a debit card, there should be no cash advance fees and you may be able to draw the whole amount without any ATM fees at all.
Thrilla said: I just ordered one and will report back with my experience. I'm wondering if I'll be able to do a cash advance on the card. Going through the T&C, I don't see anything that says I wouldn't be able to. Seeing how this card is basically a debit card, there should be no cash advance fees and you may be able to draw the whole amount without any ATM fees at all.You obviously didnt read too well, either the T&C or this thread.
They allow 4 free ATM withdrawals per month, then charge $.50 per. Maximum of $500 per withdrawal.
Glitch99 said: Thrilla said: I just ordered one and will report back with my experience. I'm wondering if I'll be able to do a cash advance on the card. Going through the T&C, I don't see anything that says I wouldn't be able to. Seeing how this card is basically a debit card, there should be no cash advance fees and you may be able to draw the whole amount without any ATM fees at all.You obviously didnt read too well, either the T&C or this thread.
They allow 4 free ATM withdrawals per month, then charge $.50 per. Maximum of $500 per withdrawal.
Maybe I should have clarified...? I meant teller cash advances. I've made "cash advances" before from my debit card for amounts over $500 even though they had ATM limits of $500.
Thrilla said: Maybe I should have clarified...? I meant teller cash advances. I've made "cash advances" before from my debit card for amounts over $500 even though they had ATM limits of $500.Yeah, that clarifies it better, thanks. Does it typically post as a cash advance, or technically as a POS 'sale'? I'd also wonder, since bank-issued debit cards are V/MC, if they'd even be able to process a Discover card at the teller.
It'd be worth asking - I'd think that worst case the Current card hits you with the $.50 ATM withdrawal fee.
Not sure, I haven't done it for a while. I'm sure they'd be able to process a Discover card at the teller because the typical usage for a teller cash advance is for credit cards. The only caveat is that I know gift cards usually block cash advances (but they also usually block ATM transactions too). I guess we'll find out in a week when I receive my card.
If you give this card to your ex, you could then pay alimony and/or child support with a credit card....
(I have no ex or children to pay support on, so its just a random thought)
gerbask
New Member
posted: Feb. 12, 2009 @ 10:34p
who was on here looking for a way to pay their Federal Stafford Loans off with the credit card? Could this be done with this card... ie. transfer from your credit card to this, etc., then pay off...
gerbask said: who was on here looking for a way to pay their Federal Stafford Loans off with the credit card? Could this be done with this card... ie. transfer from your credit card to this, etc., then pay off...This is just a specialized debit card. The payee would still have to accept credit/debit cards.
JermanDude
Member
posted: Feb. 13, 2009 @ 1:20a
This deal is officially hot: Treated as purchase on Chase CC and debit card. I ended up not trying Citi, Chase is good enough for me. Thanks OP!
sethdallob
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Feb. 13, 2009 @ 8:36a
Good times. I wouldn't use an issuer that you don't want to lose for these purchases though - chances of AA is very, very high.
It's at least a good way to consolidate cash cards from rebates
MikeR397
Senior Member - 3K
posted: Feb. 13, 2009 @ 11:27a
sethdallob said: Good times. I wouldn't use an issuer that you don't want to lose for these purchases though - chances of AA is very, very high.Don't forget the high chances that Discover will close your prepaid cards also if you are doing a lot of ATM withdrawals for fraud concerns and general abuse. I doubt many teens are withdrawing $500 per day.
JermanDude
Member
posted: Feb. 13, 2009 @ 11:34a
MikeR397 said: sethdallob said: Good times. I wouldn't use an issuer that you don't want to lose for these purchases though - chances of AA is very, very high.Don't forget the high chances that Discover will close your prepaid cards also if you are doing a lot of ATM withdrawals for fraud concerns and general abuse. I doubt many teens are withdrawing $500 per day. As long as they send me a check for the remaining balance (rather than credit my CC), that's totally fine with me. I don't do business with Discover otherwise (so they can't close my CC or anything). I agree that the risk of AA is high, though.
MikeR397
Senior Member - 3K
posted: Feb. 13, 2009 @ 12:04p
JermanDude said: MikeR397 said: sethdallob said: Good times. I wouldn't use an issuer that you don't want to lose for these purchases though - chances of AA is very, very high.Don't forget the high chances that Discover will close your prepaid cards also if you are doing a lot of ATM withdrawals for fraud concerns and general abuse. I doubt many teens are withdrawing $500 per day. As long as they send me a check for the remaining balance (rather than credit my CC), that's totally fine with me. I don't do business with Discover otherwise (so they can't close my CC or anything). I agree that the risk of AA is high, though.True, but thats very likely what they'll do, unfortuantely. So, be conservative, don't push too hard is my advice.
I actually got the card in the mail today - all of a 4-day turnaround time....
You have to register twice - once as the accountholder (the 'parent'), and once as the cardholder (the 'teen').
Potential profit aside, this actually looks like a viable option to give your kids some experience managing credit, and earn CashBack on their purchases, without the unlimited risk of handing them your credit card.
First impression is that this is a pretty good product. I hope people dont abuse it to the point of it being terminated.
gizmosun
Member
posted: Feb. 13, 2009 @ 6:09p
JermanDude said: I tried to charge $2,500 against my Citi card, and it didn't go through. The problem was with Citi, not Discover (got an alert to call Citi fraud prevention -- they're asleep right now). I ended up charging much less to my Chase debit card, which has a nice 10% cash-back promo right now. Will try a real CC later.
ahecht said: It's at least a good way to consolidate cash cards from rebates
It looks like Citi is also declining charges to their prepaid cards. I am unable to transfer funds from my Corsair rebate cards. However, Sandisk rebate cards accepted the charges from Discover.
glxpass
Senior Member - 5K
posted: Feb. 15, 2009 @ 11:16a
Thrilla said: Glitch99 said: Thrilla said: I just ordered one and will report back with my experience. I'm wondering if I'll be able to do a cash advance on the card. Going through the T&C, I don't see anything that says I wouldn't be able to. Seeing how this card is basically a debit card, there should be no cash advance fees and you may be able to draw the whole amount without any ATM fees at all.You obviously didnt read too well, either the T&C or this thread.
They allow 4 free ATM withdrawals per month, then charge $.50 per. Maximum of $500 per withdrawal.
Maybe I should have clarified...? I meant teller cash advances. I've made "cash advances" before from my debit card for amounts over $500 even though they had ATM limits of $500. A key question about teller cash advances (besides whether they're permissable for the Current Card) is if there's a cap on the amount. For example, if there's a $500 cap, you aren't gaining much, except possibly avoiding an ATM fee.
I don't know why you guys assume he doesn't still work at Discover. If he worked in fraud/security whatever chances are he still works there but bothers other people about other issues on their Discover cards.
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