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There might be problems if you automatic transfer your fund from another bank??

Let's say, you set up your automatic transfer from another bank on 20th each month, then you set up another automatic transfer from your checking to your rainbow.

If 20th of the month is saturday or sunday, then your money might not be in your checking on time. If you have 5 accounts with them, you might get charged whatever fees X 5, am I correct?

I'll do it month by month, or set up automatic transfer at least 5 days before the due date.


Yes, you're right. I also had to go through and schedule it month-by-month. I'm pushing from Alliant, and some months need to do it as early as the 16th.

At least Alliant lets you schedule pushes far in advance, so I can do half a year's worth at a time, and just put a note on my calendar to schedule the next batch.


anybody was successfully able to setup a automatic monthly transfer from Simple checking to Rainbow savings from the online banking?


You cannot do it online. You should have received a form from the bank and you need to sign and mail it to them back.


tsanju said: internetle said: feitao said: Terrible customer service. After calling 866 886 2265 three times today, a representative finally picked up and she transferred me to a voice mail.

Try email, you will get a specific person to handle your account and questions. Don't call the general number. I have a specific person that I talk to, she always pick up her phone. She sounds like a woman you want to handle everything for you,


me too .. there is this person who responds everything on email. Very prompt and the response is also very fast.


I total agree that they have terrible customer service.

1)- I called this number 866 886 2265, and she sent me to a voice mail twice. The third time I asked her why nobody answered the phone, and she finally grabbed someone for me.

2)- I emailed this email address minjeekim@wilshirebank.com, she ignored my email most of time.


Is the 100K limit per SSN and if so then is it possible to do 100K myself and 100K with a joint account?


VerbalK said: SUCKISSTAPLES said: Looks like "installment savings" is the next small bank gimmick after Rewards Checking

I called it somewhere.

 

It looks to me like the max is 100 K

So here is the catch for these types of account... you lose ALL the interest if you miss a deposit or withdraw early. Basically it's like a CD, except with a much higher, albeit UNGUARANTEED, APY. And basically once you are in, they got you by the shorthairs because you'd be hard pressed to leave if rates drop since you'd lose all the interest. I have a feeling that bank would keep the rates higher than nation cd and savings rates, but I wouldn't want to risk it.

This looks like a very profitable product for banks if it works. It cuts down on rate chasers, it is easy for a customer to miss a deposit and forfeit the proceeds, it encourages customers to use other bank products and direct deposit. I'd need at least 5 percent for term under a year to get me will to bite though.

Not if you play it right. I have these installment savings set to expire every 6 months with my bank. My automatic deposit is set to 10 dollars a month ( so no missing chance). If I take it out before the deadline I get penalized for 3 months worth of interest. If i see something coming I just hold off putting more money than the automatic deposit. If something does come up, I really wouldn't worry about loosing 3 months of interest as the principal is absolutely necessary in that situation


TheManWhoExcaped said: Is the 100K limit per SSN and if so then is it possible to do 100K myself and 100K with a joint account?
I have the one account set up and in working order.(finally)

But you have a good point, wonder if it would be worthwhile to open another account for my husband.

Don't think I'm wondering any longer. This next week I'm going to inquire into opening the second account.
My question of the Rep:
Would I be able to use the same Automatic Authorization Transfer already in working order to transfer funds to NEW Rainbow Savings?
I have the e-Links Savings 2.75%, could I use the same account for the two Rainbow Installment Savings?


Banking Guy still lists Wilshire State Bank as one of the highest yields around..


I have seen some people mention using GMAC to push to the Rainbow account. How do you get the account set up as an external account at GMAC without going over the three deposits per quarter limit on the Rainbow account?


rtw03 said: I have seen some people mention using GMAC to push to the Rainbow account. How do you get the account set up as an external account at GMAC without going over the three deposits per quarter limit on the Rainbow account?

Possibly push 3 months worth of installments instead of just one month after the trial deposits?


xnoodle said: rtw03 said: I have seen some people mention using GMAC to push to the Rainbow account. How do you get the account set up as an external account at GMAC without going over the three deposits per quarter limit on the Rainbow account?

Possibly push 3 months worth of installments instead of just one month after the trial deposits?

I think the account requires a deposit on a monthly basis, so I don't see that this would work.

Is anyone else funding this account via GMAC without also setting up the elink account and a checking account?


1) open a simple checking account
2) push money from GMAC to simple checking
3) setup automatic transfers between simple checking and rainbow savings (need to fill a form and send it to them)


krk77 said: 1) open a simple checking account
2) push money from GMAC to simple checking
3) setup automatic transfers between simple checking and rainbow savings (need to fill a form and send it to them)

you can do automatic ACH from GMAC to rainbow accounts, but the interest rate will be less.


rtw03 said: I have seen some people mention using GMAC to push to the Rainbow account. How do you get the account set up as an external account at GMAC without going over the three deposits per quarter limit on the Rainbow account?
So far, my CSR has been very responsive to emails. I'd just explain the issue. They'll probably just let you subtract your trial deposits off your first push (so that the total of the three deposits is your monthly contribution).


rtw03 said: I have seen some people mention using GMAC to push to the Rainbow account. How do you get the account set up as an external account at GMAC without going over the three deposits per quarter limit on the Rainbow account?

I mentioned this earlier, but if you have an ING Electric Orange account (or don't mind applying for one), you can send "Electric Checks" to yourself by entering the routing/account info.

I've done this for each of my Wilshire rainbow savings accounts and it's worked fine.


So can a guy have all thier cash in thier elink savings and earn the 2.75% then transfer from that?


DamnoIT said: So can a guy have all thier cash in thier elink savings and earn the 2.75% then transfer from that?
I've put a sizable chunk of cash in the e-Link Savings earning the 2.75%. I plan to transfer the payment amount out to Regular Checking close to the installment payment date.

I mailed the auto-transfer form in a few days ago.
My 1st installment in 5/13 so guess I will transfer the money from e-Links a couple days before 5/13.
If all goes well the auto-transfer should "kick in" and move the installment payment to Rainbow Savings. (X my fingers)


How are people with eLink accounts avoiding service fees on the regular checking account? Wilshire's site says you need "Daily minimum balance of $500 or monthly average balance of $1,000" to avoid a $7 monthly fee.


ThePessimist said: How are people with eLink accounts avoiding service fees on the regular checking account? Wilshire's site says you need "Daily minimum balance of $500 or monthly average balance of $1,000" to avoid a $7 monthly fee.
"Bite the bullet", I'm keeping the $500. minimum balance.


they probably just open the simply checking which doesn't have a minimum balance


pattyb53 said: ThePessimist said: How are people with eLink accounts avoiding service fees on the regular checking account? Wilshire's site says you need "Daily minimum balance of $500 or monthly average balance of $1,000" to avoid a $7 monthly fee.
"Bite the bullet", I'm keeping the $500. minimum balance.

call them up, you want to change the regular checking account to simple checking account, there is no minimum.


Is that elink FDIC insured or a money market?


DamnoIT said: Is that elink FDIC insured or a money market?
It's an e-Link Savings Account, and FDIC insured.
Sure you have to keep a minimum $500 daily, but you also gain 2.75% interest on total amount in the savings account. Can't get much higher interest in a liquid account.


wyzgie01 said: they probably just open the simply checking which doesn't have a minimum balance No, because you can't open the eLink account with that.


pattyb53 said: DamnoIT said: Is that elink FDIC insured or a money market?
It's an e-Link Savings Account, and FDIC insured.
Sure you have to keep a minimum $500 daily, but you also gain 2.75% interest on total amount in the savings account. Can't get much higher interest in a liquid account.

yeah, this seems like a great deal all by itself. It'd be #1 on the Best APY thread, but there isn't even any discussion about it. Am I missing something?


Wilshire eLink savings account probably don't have ACH capability so it is not like Etrade/GMAC/HSBC. But if you like 2.75% interest then there is nothing wrong with this savings account (except for the min balance req)


Wilshire SB has the e-Links Savings with the yield 2.75%.

This e-Links Savings is probably best used with the Installment Savings, plus the bonus of the good yield connected with the program.
The reason I signed up for e-Links is because you can save money there while you have a holding place for the monthly installment payment.

I wouldn't necessarily keep my money here except for the "package plan" because it does require a minimum $500.


So when you open the rainbow savings do you then have to wait to get the elink savings or should one create that after they submittent the intial app for rainbow? I just sent that in today and made a depost but am not sure what sort of savings it will go into by default. Anyone have experience?


you can open what ever accounts you want all at once..

1) Rainbow Savings alone (transfer from another account or monthly check deposit)
2) Rainbow Savings + Simple checking (no Min)
3) Rainbow Savings + Regular checking ($500 min) + eLink ($ 500 min)


I'd like to point out the FW effect on Wilshire State Bank...

I opened my account when it was first advertised here, 4/13. Just this last week I decided to open a second account in my husbands name, 5/7.
I compared the account numbers, mine was approximetly 1935, my husband 4225. Quite a few signups.

People must have swamped Wilshire State Bank.
Goes to show when we FW's see a decent deal we run in mass.


Wilshire just send me a money market account promotion newsletter, 2.80% APY until 1/1/2010, $100,000 minimum. Website does not show it. 1% for balance from $2,500 to $99,999. Better than any CD out there.


pattyb53 said: I'd like to point out the FW effect on Wilshire State Bank...

I opened my account when it was first advertised here, 4/13. Just this last week I decided to open a second account in my husbands name, 5/7.
I compared the account numbers, mine was approximetly 1935, my husband 4225. Quite a few signups.

People must have swamped Wilshire State Bank.
Goes to show when we FW's see a decent deal we run in mass.

For most banks, the last digit of the account number is a checksum digit, and it's the other digits that are assigned sequentially. So that would mean they went from 193 to 422 in three weeks. 76 accounts a week is still pretty good, but not outrageously amazing.


ThePessimist said: [For most banks, the last digit of the account number is a checksum digit, and it's the other digits that are assigned sequentially. So that would mean they went from 193 to 422 in three weeks. 76 accounts a week is still pretty good, but not outrageously amazing.
In that case, it seems to me like it would be 422-193=249.
I'm not a mathmatician but it's still not bad. We do make a difference...


pattyb53 said: ThePessimist said: [For most banks, the last digit of the account number is a checksum digit, and it's the other digits that are assigned sequentially. So that would mean they went from 193 to 422 in three weeks. 76 accounts a week is still pretty good, but not outrageously amazing.
In that case, it seems to me like it would be 422-193=249.
I'm not a mathmatician but it's still not bad. We do make a difference...
right, but it was more than a week between the two applications; ThePessimist's number was per week.


pattyb53 said: ThePessimist said: [For most banks, the last digit of the account number is a checksum digit, and it's the other digits that are assigned sequentially. So that would mean they went from 193 to 422 in three weeks. 76 accounts a week is still pretty good, but not outrageously amazing.
In that case, it seems to me like it would be 422-193=249.
I'm not a mathmatician but it's still not bad. We do make a difference...

Well, 422-193=229, not 249.
As mttatkns said, my number was per week. 229/3 is about 76.
I actually am a mathematician, and I know how to spell it too!


ThePessimist said: [As mttatkns said, my number was per week. 229/3 is about 76.
I actually am a mathematician, and I know how to spell it too!

Pessimist...Please give me a break!!

My point, FW members do make a big difference.
When we "make a run" on a bank or CU, we almost "shut" their phone service down.


Just got a call as I sent an intial deposit that was larger then the installment amount. Basically they sent me an email to confirm what I want which is a regular checking + elink (were I will camp everything) and the Rainbow (money landing here). Hopefully they can get me my account info in a reasnoable time to get everything transferred over. Now to make a monthly habbit to transfer into Rainbow.


Silly question: How are you guys setting up automatic transfer into wilshire checking account from external account? I tried on fidelity, it allows me to do one time transfer but not repeating transfers.


gmacbank.com (and i'm sure others) allows you to set up repeating transfers.




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