I had a gentleman stop by my door about a year ago wanting to just let me know that he had moved into the neighborhood and was a EdwardJones financial planner and would love to help me plan for my future. Well about every other month or so he called me back and, being a bit impressed with his perseverence and with a year already going by, I decided to meet with him.
My wife and I met with him tonight and the meeting went well. We discussed our overall financial status, and I gave him paperwork outlying our financial status and desires. He is looking over our information and we have another meeting scheduled for next tuesday, we did not discuss any specific products that he wanted to show us nor did he push any specific products.
What has me wondering about going with him as my financial planner is:
-Do I really need a financial planner or do I just need someone to handle my investments (currently I don't have any investments)
-The fees seem high to me, it was $40 for starting a fund and then he collected a small amount on monies earned in the fund-Is there anywhere online where I can see typical fees for the larger companies?
Thanks for the help - I have a minor in Insurance and really enjoy the financial scene, but I also appreciate those that have gone farther in their education to recieve their CFP and other designations.
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RP needs some encouragement to stay away from a Salesperson that wants to take his money
Message edited by: germanpope on 2009-06-30 22:24:13 CDT
-Most Likely- you do not need a financial planner if you can figure out on your own what you need...
1) Life insurance (Term unless you fall into a ~1-2% odd situation scenario) just to cover loss of income for remaining spouse / children. 2) Investments for your future...
For life insurance, just check out http://www.term4sale.com/ - good way to get a quick gut check for term life insurance costs...
For Investments, set up a roth ira account on Vanguard (or Fidelity). I prefer vanguard simply because I am a bit of an index fund lover. It looks like what your financial planner is attempting to sell you is a managed mutual fund. The vast majority of mutual funds do not beat a simple index. IE: it is more than likely that a managed "Small cap" fund that charges 1-3% each year will perform worst than an index fund that charges 0.1 - 0.25% per year. See http://www.fool.com/investing/mutual-funds/2009/02/25/index-funds-are-hard-to-beat.aspx . You can see, I hope, why I am in love with the index funds. Easiest way to do this is to call vanguard up and let them know you have questions and are considering opening an account - they should be able to talk to you about it over the phone. If you have no idea what you want to do, then getting an automatic age based index fund may not be the worst idea I have ever heard - while still getting you into the market much cheaper than a mutual fund.
As for "perseverence" guy - you can keep him if you like but I would steer clear of hungry "financial advisors" - why is he that hungry for business? "Maybe he is just new... you were new once right?!" - great. Let him go be new with someone else. Look out for your own family, not his.
That said, there are other things a good financial planner may help you with: - Estate Planning: Not useful for you right now as you really have no 'estate' - Trust Planning: Talk to a lawyer about setting one up in the case that you and your spouse both die leaving insurance money to children... - Multitude of insurance offers: MOST of these are not suitable for MOST people in ALL periods of your life. IE: Statistically, investing in "long term care" insurance at age 25, for example, makes no sense. Investing in "long term disability" at 25 does. A good financial planner can make suggestions for you in this fashion but if you want my -personal opinion- on insurance you can have it: Term life is good. Variable life / whole life is not good (For most people - probably including you). Annuity is not good. Short term disability - not good. Long term disability - good. Long term care - good at age 55+. Cancer / Accidental Death / Supplemental Insurance - Leave it alone.
Thats about it... go see a professional when you need to, not when they get a bit hungry...
destarr said:I had a gentleman stop by my door about a year ago wanting to just let me know that he had moved into the neighborhood and was a EdwardJones financial planner and would love to help me plan for my future. Well about every other month or so he called me back and, being a bit impressed with his perseverence and with a year already going by, I decided to meet with him.
destarr said:I had a gentleman stop by my door about a year ago wanting to just let me know that he had moved into the neighborhood and was a EdwardJones financial planner
I think its time for me to move to a new neighborhood. The only people who knock on my door to let me know they move into the neighborhood are child molesters.
JesseLivermore said:A financial planner can destroy your savings and wealth much, much faster than you can. Trust me.
The Golden Rule of other peoples' money trumps all in this arena.
Save yourself much grief and financial loss, assuming your IQ is greater than 80, and manage your own money.
I agree. Change your own oil, do your own tune ups, fix your own plumbing and landscape your backyard yourself as well. Oh, and make sure when you buy and sell your house that you are doing a "for sale by owner". Hey, for that matter, manage your own health care too.
ThirdJoker said:JesseLivermore said:A financial planner can destroy your savings and wealth much, much faster than you can. Trust me.
The Golden Rule of other peoples' money trumps all in this arena.
Save yourself much grief and financial loss, assuming your IQ is greater than 80, and manage your own money.
I agree. Change your own oil, do your own tune ups, fix your own plumbing and landscape your backyard yourself as well. Oh, and make sure when you buy and sell your house that you are doing a "for sale by owner". Hey, for that matter, manage your own health care too.
You insinuate that most financial planners are competent and have no conflicts of interest.
If I'm correct in your assumptions, you are extremely naive or are a financial planner yourself, or close to a financial planner, IMO.
edit - By the way, I do change my own oil, fix household issues when I am able (most of the time), and would rarely use a realtor.
You seem like the kind of person who pays everyone to do everything for you, because it's sooooo darn hard!
A lot of planners/full service brokers charge 1% of gross equity that is under their control, regardless of profit. Sounds like a good deal, fee wise, if you can get someone that only takes a percentage of the profit they earn for you.
Otherwise, open an account with Fidelity, Schwab, or TD Ameritrade and schedule a complimentary appointment with one of their advisers. They aren't one stop shops and will be hesitant to make tax recommendations for you, but they will be helpful in developing investment schedules and asset allocation.
So far every financial planners that I know are sales persons.
My uncle's financial planner sold him worthless UBS auction rate securities and after everything start to unfold, the so-called financial planner could not be reached. He's lucky because at the end UBS bought the securities back due to the multiple AG investigations.
ThirdJoker said:JesseLivermore said:A financial planner can destroy your savings and wealth much, much faster than you can. Trust me.
The Golden Rule of other peoples' money trumps all in this arena.
Save yourself much grief and financial loss, assuming your IQ is greater than 80, and manage your own money. I agree. Change your own oil, do your own tune ups, fix your own plumbing and landscape your backyard yourself as well. Oh, and make sure when you buy and sell your house that you are doing a "for sale by owner". Hey, for that matter, manage your own health care too.Why do so many financial planners like to compare themselves with auto mechanics, plumbers, and doctors? Those people are real experts, and realtors have access to multi-listing services that ordinary people don't.
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