bigdinkel said:Usually these people would ask me on Myspace, Facebook or at a bar about "changing my life."These are places to socialize, so they were not there by accident. Multi-level marketers have common sense too.

TempName09 said:bigdinkel said:Seems like popular ones are about legal services and nutritional products like antioxidants or energy drinks. Anybody else listen to these gimmicks?
These gimmicks are promoted on FW and pitched by a charter member here.
Look at the faq:
General Legal

I am even MORE confused.

SiS (op of thread in question) was not PITCHING PPL. He OFFERED that option as one of 3 or 4, to people that needed cheap or FREE legal advice. There was NO referral link in what he posted, so he made no money from it.

Next.... it is an ARCHIVED thread, started in 2002, last posted to in 2006. Not much action going on there...

Lastly... this is a FORUM, where people DISCUSS stuff. MOST comments are welcome, as long as they are honest and add to the discussion. SiS (in the thread you point to) was creating a discussion. YOU, (in this thread), have added SLANTED (wrong) info to the discussion...

If you want to start trouble, or stalk CHARTER members, I suggest you do more research!

Start at 4 minutes at 15 seconds for the reason:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8928413583604160765&ei=HIRNSuOtOKjkrAL__MCaBQ&q=joe+rogan&hl=en

"Anyone dumb enough to believe in big d*(|< pills be some weird secret on the back of hustler mag..."

As Rogan says. "Just use your logic."

greed

One of my students at college was talking with his friends telling them all about this MLM he was getting into. I asked "and did the person pitching it to you show your a photocopy of a big check he got, but say he really wasn't supposed to show it to you?" He said "yes, how did you know that?" I said because all pyramid schemes are presented the same way, just the product changes every few months. I then explained the whole MLM sham to them. I hope he listened.

Another good reason to avoid bars....between women expecting me to buy them drinks and a loser talking about how he's going to make 10k a month doing nothing, I'd rather sit at home.

These schemes are proliferating due to continuing layoffs/explosion of unemployment. People with no jobs look for something to cling to and these guys pitching their "get rich in just 6 months" scams are just the ticket they want to buy in on.

The answer to your question is that there are lots and lots of stupid people. As technology advances and life becomes more complicated, most of these folks are like drowning rats frantically gripping for anything that floats. These gimmicks are some of that floating material.

On a similar note, your question should be "Why ARE there so many multi-level marketing gimmicks out there?". Obvious bad grammar makes baby jesus cry.

kamalktk said:
Because that member gave TempName09 red for a thread that deserved it, and now TempName09 is upset.

Technologist said:TempName09 said:bigdinkel said:Seems like popular ones are about legal services and nutritional products like antioxidants or energy drinks. Anybody else listen to these gimmicks?
These gimmicks are promoted on FW and pitched by a charter member here.
Look at the faq:
General Legal

I am even MORE confused.

SiS (op of thread in question) was not PITCHING PPL. He OFFERED that option as one of 3 or 4, to people that needed cheap or FREE legal advice. There was NO referral link in what he posted, so he made no money from it.

Thanks for setting the record Straight kamalktk and Techy. My how I seem to attract internet stalkers...

Lets provide greater detail, first about TempName09 and then more generally about prepaid legal services and the Legal FAQ linked above, so that anyone reading this gets the whole story:

1. Tempname posted a thread about ignoring a HOA and maintenance problem concerning a lot he owns in a distant state. He was being sent to collections and was being bullied by the HOA president who wanted to buy his neighboring lot at a discounted price.

2. I suggested he consult a competent attorney local to the property, who could research the relevant facts and law, and also communicate with the HOA president, to show he was taking the matter seriously and would not be bullied around.

3. Tempname then stated how much he destests attorneys and how he would never pay for their services, much like he never paid for 7 years of maintenance on his property.

4. In response to his aversion to spending $$, I told him if was too cheap to seek legal assistance through normal channels, he could get a simple letter prepared via prepaid legal services for about $20.

5. He then proceeded to delete/ rename the thread into something about AMEX, to confuse the FW search feature. He then began stalking me.

Now, as to prepaid legal services and the General Legal FAQ:
1. As can be clearly seen in the "General Legal FAQ" thread many years ago, there are numerous preferred ways to find a good attorney. Personal recommendation is best.

2. Still , understanding that many FW'ers do not have a good friend or legal contact, or are simply too cheap to spend money, the thread discussed a variety of legal plans which fulfill the goal of low cost legal assistance for small consumer legal issues. Prepaid legal plans are the cheapest alternative I am aware of where someone can get phone calls made on your behalf/a letter prepared by an attorney.

3. Most legal plans are NOT MLMs. Many are actually provided by employers as an employee benefit. There are only a few open to the public, such as AMEX's plan and PPL. Legal clubs get a bad rap and are lumped in with MLM because the main company in this industry (called "PrePaidLegal" or PPL) does indeed operate as a MLM. The people pushing PPL as a MLM either mislead by telling people they can either make $$ selling it, or that they should buy it bc it will cover all legal matters. In reality, ALL legal clubs have very specific and limited included benefits, and their best use is for SMALL consumer issues where a simple letter or phone call is the full extent of what is needed.

4. I have never endorsed the PPL company as a way to make money in MLM, here or anywhere online or offline. I am not a member of the PPL company, nor have I ever sold PPL to anyone.

Just setting the record straight.

ilikebtmoney said:Blah.. MLM's, I know too many people who try to "get back in touch" and have me "do a coming home party" for them and invite over all the old pals only to find out "they're in business for themself just like me in an Internet business!" and want to use this "party" to pitch their crap. So far, three times this year..

I got a request to be added on Facebook to guy I know a litte, but not too well. After I added him, I see a lot of "updates" about how great Advocare is and how anyone can contact him to get involved. These people have a disease...which is probably why they need Advocare