scottxmso said:As long as you're sure that AT&T isn't going to go after you...I would have absolutely no moral qualms about taking this freebie from a company like AT&T or Apple with unethical and anti-competitive business tactics. Enjoy it!

And if the WalMart cashier accidentally gives you back too much change, I suppose you're entitled to that too, since they are an evil empire and you are the self-proclaimed Robin Hood? Never seek moral advice on FW. It is clearly the wrong place for questions concerning character, integrity, or morality.

Wats so Fcked up.. Its even gr8... u dun hv da $30 3g plan but u can instead take $15 edge plan, U r still in 2 yr contract with ATT but wont be paying for data plan... U mite hv inserted ur old sim card into iphonetats y the data plan did not get activated....

sorry.. off topic.
for those who got their iPhones in CA (or primary use in CA) :
Did you pay the tax on full price ($599/$699) or AT&T negotiated 2Yr contract price ($199/$299) ?

Edit: I don't mind paying the tax on the full price.. but just wanted to know when this became effective.
I don't remember paying this when I got my earlier phone last time (2004).

blok said:Shishir said:Wats so Fcked up.. Its even gr8... u dun hv da $30 3g plan but u can instead take $15 edge plan, U r still in 2 yr contract with ATT but wont be paying for data plan... U mite hv inserted ur old sim card into iphonetats y the data plan did not get activated....

You must rent from me, you spell like a retard

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rossasarus said:MY father once told me
"Son, if you are ever faced with an important moral and legal question - just ask a bunch of random strangers on the internet" In that vein...

I recently signed up for a new iPhone 3GS and a 2 yr contract. Due to a number of issues, it took AT&T about 2 weeks to ship me the phone. It arrived on a friday, and I didn't go about trying to activate it until tuesday of the next week. That morning they emailed me to tell me that
Thank you for choosing AT&T. Unfortunately, either we have not heard from you in several days, or you have chosen to cancel your order. In either case, this e-mail confirms your order cancellation. If you believe you received this message in error, please resubmit your order on att.com/wireless, or visit a local AT&T retail store. Go to att.com/storelocator to find a store near you. Thank you. AT&T
So now I am in an interesting spot. I have an iPhone that I legally paid for (albeit at a discounted rate - $199) and no contract. Since they cancelled the contract am I free and clear? It was one and a half business days from when it arrived to when they cancelled my contract. Doesn't that seem weird?

I have consulted a lawyer friend, but she hasn't gotten back.
Let's hear your thoughts huddled internet masses!

Translation: You consulted a lawyer because you knew you were doing something unethical and wanted to find out if they could come after you for the full price of the phone. The lawyer didn't respond so you thought you could get some free advice on if you would get away with your theft online. I think you should pay the ETF.

markbyte said:I suspect that if you don't return the phone, they will charge you full price for the phone. They will say that the $199 price was with a 2-year contract and you did not enter into a valid 2-year contract with them. They don't care if they are the ones who dropped the ball.

Did he not enter in the contract or did AT&T cancel the contract?

holy crap you contacted an attorney, thats also a friend, with this

i believe you just burned all of your markers with that

subieaggie said:markbyte said:I suspect that if you don't return the phone, they will charge you full price for the phone. They will say that the $199 price was with a 2-year contract and you did not enter into a valid 2-year contract with them. They don't care if they are the ones who dropped the ball.

Did he not enter in the contract or did AT&T cancel the contract?

It sounds to me as though he initiated the contract by ordering the phone. In response, AT&T send him the phone in good faith that he would activate it thus completing the contract requirement. I think that's how they will see it. I'm not on anyone's side by the way I'm just playing devil's advocate.

rossasarus said:I have an iPhone that I legally paid for (albeit at a discounted rate - $199) and no contract. Since they cancelled the contract am I free and clear?
Noooo way. (The way AT&Fee sees it) You entered a service agreement with AT&T when you purchased the iphone. You are still on the hook for the service plan regardless of activation. *I'm not a lawyer.

ATT Cancelation Policy said:Cancellations/Early Termination Fee: An Early Termination Fee of $175 may be assessed against you in the event that you terminate your Wireless Service Agreement and/or selected plan before the expiration of its term. For Service activated on or after May 25, 2008, the Early Termination Fee will be reduced by $5.00 for each full month toward your minimum term that you complete. You may cancel your service, for any reason and without incurring the Early Termination Fee, within thirty (30) days of signing your Wireless Service Agreement, PROVIDED, however, that if you cancel service you will remain responsible for any service fees and charges incurred.
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/legal/plan-terms....

Cnet.com said:Typically, the acquisition of a subsidized cell phone involves a contract which, if breached prior to the agreed upon timeframe, results in steep charges to the customer should they wish to keep the phone.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-10115571-233.html

I'm guessing your planning on keeping the phone with no contract.

$175 Cancellation Fee
$ 36 Activation Fee
$400 financial penalty upon non-contract
Amount Due: $611+

If morals are not an issue, and you want to hold them to that cancelation email, and you still want the original deal as you ordered it....

why not place a new order, the SAME way you did the last time...

then you will indeed have your new phone, and ATT service for the next 2 yrs (assuming the order goes through the 2nd time).... if they ever say anything, you can point to the canceled first order, your 2nd order and your current 2yr agreement.

And if , the 2nd time, you end up getting out of activation again, then keep repeating and setup an eBay store