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My friend's company is an LLC. She lives in Westchester County and sees her clients in her home office. Her accountant told her that she has to pay the NYS commuter tax even though her entire commute is simply to walk downstairs to her basement home office. Can that be true? A tax for commuting downstairs in your own home? If it's true, can you please explain the rationale for that sort of taxation? Thank you.


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Yes it appears true. See here for more about the socalled (Metropolitan Commuter Transportation Mobility Tax (MCTMT).

The main thing your friend falls under is:

Business activity is carried on inside the MCTD if an individual has, maintains, operates, or occupies desk space, an office, a shop, a store, a warehouse, a factory, an agency, or other place located in the MCTD where his or her business matters are systematically and regularly carried on.

Which is interesting, I wonder if people that telecommute fall under this tax.

Message edited by: xnoodle on 2009-10-23 06:09:41 CDT
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xnoodle said:I wonder if people that telecommute fall under this tax.
From your link it appears that telecommuters would not be taxed since it does not apply to employees working for an employer:
The metropolitan commuter transportation mobility tax (MCTMT) is a new tax imposed on certain employers and self-employed individuals engaging in business within the metropolitan commuter transportation district (MCTD).


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She pays the tax because even if she does not commute, her clients might use public transit


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Pay your commuter taxes, deadbeat.


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The tax is not based on whether you commute; it is based on the location where you work. This was the method by which the MTA could limit fare increases. Otherwise, a subway ride which was $2 would not have only risen to $2.25 but would have gone up more. Therefore people who don't even use the MTA are the ones paying for it.

Message edited by: davidnyc06 on 2009-10-23 16:13:04 CDT
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Problem: Taxes in NY are too high and unfair.
Solution: Move out of NY.


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tripleB said:Problem: Taxes in NY are too high and unfair.
Solution: Move out of NY.

Or just don't work in NY, and enjoy their public benefits while lazing about. Someone has to work and pay taxes, but it doesn't have to be you!


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xerty said:tripleB said:Problem: Taxes in NY are too high and unfair.
Solution: Move out of NY.

Or just don't work in NY, and enjoy their public benefits while lazing about. Someone has to work and pay taxes, but it doesn't have to be you!
Someone has to pay for the costs of operating the MTA's subways, railroads, bridges and tunnels. That could be the people that actually use them; or it could be the productive members of the public in general. In New York, we go with a split that's tilted toward public costs. There are other places to live that don't force taxpayers to bear those costs to that degree.


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NYS MTA is the worst of the worst scumbags on earth. They dont have to open their books to the public and make up their property taxes/values as it would fit them.


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LH2004 said:xerty said:tripleB said:Problem: Taxes in NY are too high and unfair.
Solution: Move out of NY.

Or just don't work in NY, and enjoy their public benefits while lazing about. Someone has to work and pay taxes, but it doesn't have to be you!
Someone has to pay for the costs of operating the MTA's subways, railroads, bridges and tunnels. That could be the people that actually use them; or it could be the productive members of the public in general. In New York, we go with a split that's tilted toward public costs. There are other places to live that don't force taxpayers to bear those costs to that degree.

Actually, MTA fares cover a larger portion of the MTA's operating costs than for most transit systems, particularly New York City Transit - the recovery rate is lower for the LIRR.

The bigger issue is the huge degree to which downstate subsidizes upstate, but that's a separate concern.


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cestmoi123 said:
The bigger issue is the huge degree to which downstate subsidizes upstate, but that's a separate concern.

Welcome to democracy! Please enjoy your stay

Message edited by: tripleB on 2009-10-25 12:46:28 CDT
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davidnyc06 said:The tax is not based on whether you commute; it is based on the location where you work. This was the method by which the MTA could limit fare increases. Otherwise, a subway ride which was $2 would not have only risen to $2.25 but would have gone up more. Therefore people who don't even use the MTA are the ones paying for it.I really think the subway fare is high is due to over generous MTA contracts. Do you know how packed the 4 & 5 lines are in the morning? Any uninformed business man would have thought MTA is a huge money minting machine, until he learns the MTA workers can retire at 55 (is it still true?).


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tripleB said:Problem: Taxes in NY are too high and unfair.
Solution: Move out of NY.
What if your after tax income is also higher?


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nycll said:tripleB said:Problem: Taxes in NY are too high and unfair.
Solution: Move out of NY.
What if your after tax income is also higher?

Then stop complaining and stay in NY. Maybe the higher after-tax income is correlated to higher taxes producing a better market for your services or a better labor pool.


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nycll said:I really think the subway fare is high is due to over generous MTA contracts. Do you know how packed the 4 & 5 lines are in the morning? Any uninformed business man would have thought MTA is a huge money minting machine, until he learns the MTA workers can retire at 55 (is it still true?).It was an absolutely enormous expense to dig a tunnel through the bedrock from Grand Central to Bowling Green, but that was done a century ago. A crowded 4 or 5, holding about 1000 commuters, charges fares of $2250 to run that route, or maybe, say, $1800 after discounts, is an enormous profit over that train's crew and maintenance costs, plus its fair share of track and station costs, or at least it would be on any reasonable salary levels. Keeping stations open at the system's periphery at odd hours is a big money loser. MTA could make up for that if, like other decent-sized systems, it charged distance-based fares, but it doesn't. So the system overall may have only a moderate loss, but that doesn't mean there aren't huge subsidies for parts of it.


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