mariusz said: hakujin said: headliner out of greece just now:
Greece seeking exit out of Euro.
Might be a "surprise" for some, but this was quite obvious to anybody with half a brain cell.haha! yes, i thought it may of came out like that. But I suppose the news is an 'actualization' of this now constant and venerable constant sentiment. it is supposedly what caused the Euro dip chasing into the bell.
mariusz said: thoughts on TTWO? Missed yet shares up? Further proof that futures this early is kinda wacky? BBY was up near 10% before it was down % on earnings yesterday morning.
Funny what a tenuous grasp the 3 panel has on Bloomberg regarding the issue right now. From the guy who is talking about how the FB IPO was priced exactly right (ummm... sure buddy; I guess that would be the case if Morgan Stanley didn't pump 2 billion+ into the stock alone on IPO day on the open market; ergo, I guess you could call that 'leaving money on the table!'), to the chica who who portends 'should we not have an open market' which totally negates the ordering limit issues which have already been avidly discussed here. perhaps the Bloomberg dingbats need a einhorn powerpoint slide (or 3) on the matter.
FB ipo is a good case of fundamental analysis. The stock was over valued. All it took was a glitch in trading for most ipo subscribers to realize the emperor has no clothes. Run for exit ensued when people realized the underwriters were supporting the price. Buy at the open and dump for a quick $5 gain seemed easy except when there wasn't a gain. Trading on the market's whims and short term irrationality, such as the" guaranteed fake run up" can only work if you are good at it and have full day devoted to this kind of stuff. For small investors who can't afford trading all day fundamental analysis is the only way to go (on top of indexing) .
skeemer said: For those of you who incorporate technical analysis into your trading, how did you learn how to read charts?
Basically read a lot, plus it takes time too to figure out what is important and what is fluff. Read, watch, make mistakes and most important learn from them. No easy/fast way unfortunately.
chaddi said: mariusz said: Dell under $13 pre-mkt, crapped out LOL
Looks like Dell is done for a while. Amazing this stock was $18+ couple of months ago. Probably will drift lower on margin liquidations, I'm thinking very low 12's
stupid sharebuilder not letting you put in options trades in the first 15 minutes. grr. anyway, i am buying some 555 puts at 9:45 unless the stock rallies to 560.
BilldaCat said: stupid sharebuilder not letting you put in options trades in the first 15 minutes. grr. anyway, i am buying some 555 puts at 9:45 unless the stock rallies to 560. Sharebuilder sucks, why even use it? Just open multiple accts at OH for execution purposes.
dag... hard to go into HUGE short on HPQ when they are -5%. i expect a little bit of a jump from cover calls and those more optimistic in close. That puts a kink on exit strategy w/ 'contained losses'. Hmm...
mariusz said: BilldaCat said: stupid sharebuilder not letting you put in options trades in the first 15 minutes. grr. anyway, i am buying some 555 puts at 9:45 unless the stock rallies to 560. Sharebuilder sucks, why even use it? Just open multiple accts at OH for execution purposes.
it does suck. just had some funds over there I need to move, but don't want to miss out on shorting AAPL right now. thinking i might finally move them over memorial day weekend.
Dell is a disaster. I beta test for Dell and I have yet to see a product in the last 2 or so years that is interesting and that I'd want to buy. They're still trying to push 17" laptops with cheap cases on people. No one on the consumer side wants much of what they make and they don't seem to understand this. I suppose what's valuable is their enterprise business, but I have no idea how much that is worth.
Dell looks like a buy - probably in a few days for the long term. The results are not that bad. so is CSCO.
neither would be anything but a short term bounce buy. they are both doomed companies, though csco has more optimism going forward when chambers steps down. Dell is just doomed.
Why does this not surprise me? Because was obvious before they even IPO'd this POS http://finance.yahoo.com/news/facebook-zuckerberg-banks-sued-over-130237689.html
Lawyers gonna be making lotta money here, yes sir!!!
hakujin said: jeeves said: Dell and HPQ look ugly.
Dell looks like a buy - probably in a few days for the long term. The results are not that bad. so is CSCO.
neither would be anything but a short term bounce buy. they are both doomed companies, though csco has more optimism going forward when chambers steps down. Dell is just doomed.
as much as AAPL has been on a tear, someone has to be making $ off the PC space. If it's not going to be Dell, figure someone else has got to find a way to turn a profit.
Dell looks like a buy - probably in a few days for the long term. The results are not that bad. so is CSCO.
neither would be anything but a short term bounce buy. they are both doomed companies, though csco has more optimism going forward when chambers steps down. Dell is just doomed.
as much as AAPL has been on a tear, someone has to be making $ off the PC space. If it's not going to be Dell, figure someone else has got to find a way to turn a profit.
Probably only Intel and microsoft.
The PC makers are supplying a commoditized product - who can really tell the difference between a Dell and HP or Lenovo and Acer. Their only hope is he enterprise market to turn a profit.
Dell looks like a buy - probably in a few days for the long term. The results are not that bad. so is CSCO.
neither would be anything but a short term bounce buy. they are both doomed companies, though csco has more optimism going forward when chambers steps down. Dell is just doomed.
as much as AAPL has been on a tear, someone has to be making $ off the PC space. If it's not going to be Dell, figure someone else has got to find a way to turn a profit.
Probably only Intel and microsoft.
The PC makers are supplying a commoditized product - who can really tell the difference between a Dell and HP or Lenovo and Acer. Their only hope is he enterprise market to turn a profit.
If you remove the label they are all the same, low margin commodities.
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