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corporateclaw said:   I've decided I just need to find a nice 0.50% savings account and hope I can work until I'm 97.

All you need is a few decent trades per year at 10%+, too much trading only makes the brokers rich. Sometimes less is more
Ever hear the expression "brokers make you broker"?


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jd2010 said:   BilldaCat said:   screw it. holding the AAPL calls overnight. at least it held 560 but really surprised it didn't follow through once it broke 570.

everyone go out and buy an ipad for memorial day.


Why are you surprised when stocks hit these arbitrary "support" numbers... its all a bunch of crap like astrology

anyone can draw trend lines and make them look any way you want them to.

OMG 50 day moving average broken... sweet... i dont care what happened 50 days ago

I'll respectfully disagree. In a market where 99% of the trading is done by computers, I would imagine trying to learn some technical analysis would be helpful.

I would say it's also a self-fulfilling prophecy in a way. If enough people believe a stock is going to break out by looking at a chart, it's more likely to break out because of the $ those people put into it.

Of course, lately I would have had better luck with a dartboard. That's just my theory. I think there's some data that can be gained by it, just as there's some advantage to card counting in blackjack. Is it going to be enough to beat the house? Probably not, but maybe you can shave the edge down a little.


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Hoping GOOG tests its 200day very soon
many on CNBC fast money crew have liked PAY in the past, I wonder if they will pump it back up a little


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luckytbal said:   
many on CNBC fast money crew have liked PAY in the past, I wonder if they will pump it back up a little

In addition to the net income miss, "the revenue made a big jump because they included the Hypercom acquisition in their results. Do your homework. They missed miserably on the bottom line".

gapping between 41.30 and 41.60. I don't know about rebound tomorrow if it's a red day. I anticipate more sell off at the bell.

Edit: correction, now at 41.15.... now 40.90. really gettin fugly


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what's CNBC saying about AAPL? Should probably just do the exact opposite.


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CHK up 2.4% AH.


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mariusz said:   corporateclaw said:   I've decided I just need to find a nice 0.50% savings account and hope I can work until I'm 97.

All you need is a few decent trades per year at 10%+, too much trading only makes the brokers rich. Sometimes less is more
Ever hear the expression "brokers make you broker"?

Agree! I used to have a commission free broker that allowed me to trade up to 30 trades a month, but I lost like 2k in less than 10 days. Never do frequent trading again.


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hakujin said:   luckytbal said:   
many on CNBC fast money crew have liked PAY in the past, I wonder if they will pump it back up a little


In addition to the net income miss, "the revenue made a big jump because they included the Hypercom acquisition in their results. Do your homework. They missed miserably on the bottom line".

gapping between 41.30 and 41.60. I don't know about rebound tomorrow if it's a red day. I anticipate more sell off at the bell.

Edit: correction, now at 41.15.... now 40.90. really gettin fugly

yup, things are looking ugly, now@41


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chaddi said:   CHK up 2.4% AH.on the back of Icahn right? before that: http://www.valuewalk.com/2012/05/chesapeake-energy-corporation-c...

ever day is a soap opera with chk, haha!


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word is GREECE will not leave the Euro zone. Wonder if that's good news at this point. :/ tired of hearing about greece. Maybe Iran, Greece, Spain, France, and the whole lot can just cancel each other out.


Only thing keeping me from a long position now on PAY is the word on the street: If you're not flat into this weekend, you are INSANE. That and that turd continues to head downhill. 40.62. would already lost a buck on what seemed a solid down side 30 min ago.


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BilldaCat said:   what's CNBC saying about AAPL? Should probably just do the exact opposite.
They almost always say opposite things on any given day.


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nycll said:   BilldaCat said:   what's CNBC saying about AAPL? Should probably just do the exact opposite.
They almost always say opposite things on any given day.

People still watch CNBC?? That's like watching the cartoon network. ROFL!!!


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BilldaCat said:   what's CNBC saying about AAPL? Should probably just do the exact opposite.

Well everything about the situation (greece, weekend, random +30 day this week, etc.) screams that it should be down, so obviously it will pop.


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So I guess if CNBC adds in a "you should sell AAPL" then we are finally looking at 600 again


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mariusz said:   corporateclaw said:   I've decided I just need to find a nice 0.50% savings account and hope I can work until I'm 97.

All you need is a few decent trades per year at 10%+, too much trading only makes the brokers rich. Sometimes less is more
Ever hear the expression "brokers make you broker"?

Meh, I have no discipline and I get all emotional about the fact that I always buy at what ends up being the 52-week high when I want to buy and hold.


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corporateclaw said:   mariusz said:   corporateclaw said:   I've decided I just need to find a nice 0.50% savings account and hope I can work until I'm 97.

All you need is a few decent trades per year at 10%+, too much trading only makes the brokers rich. Sometimes less is more
Ever hear the expression "brokers make you broker"?


Meh, I have no discipline and I get all emotional about the fact that I always buy at what ends up being the 52-week high when I want to buy and hold.

Then brokers and MM's must love you for being one of their best customers.


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retirebyfourty said:   I know. Sometimes these low-float stocks can be good (or isolated from micro-DJIA moves). Might get lucky to get out tomorrow, but we may likely also see a pullback to 10.70s

chaddi said:   chaddi said:   retirebyfourty said:   CBOU looking strong again. Chaddi, once CBOU crosses 11.50-11.60 (knocks on wood), are you going to be heading for the exits or do you have a price target in mind? I'm torn between getting out unscathed at 11.65 and being happy with 500$. OTOH, I wouldn't mind waking up in 3 months and seeing it back to 15.
My CBOU average is around 11.5 and I plan to sell it at 12. I hope it hits 12 by end of next week.


CBOU picking up.

imo, get out, and go long sbux if coffee is your thing. schultz' vision seems a a winner for years to come. i say that as someone who almost never drinks sbux and thinks single serve coffee machines are a rip off (but consumers seem to really like it). looking at the long term charts for cbou, jva, or gmcr... FUGLY.

(french press and bur grinder for life)

my .02.


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Morgan Stanley (MS.N) will adjust thousands of trades to ensure no limit orders will be filled at more than $43 a share for Facebook (FB.O) stock from last Friday's botched initial public offering, the firm told its brokers on Thursday, a person familiar with the call said.

LOL. How nice of them!


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ima4ltrwrd said:   Morgan Stanley (MS.N) will adjust thousands of trades to ensure no limit orders will be filled at more than $43 a share for Facebook (FB.O) stock from last Friday's botched initial public offering, the firm told its brokers on Thursday, a person familiar with the call said.

LOL. How nice of them!

Cool, so that means MS gonna take those losses and should go down?
Would be interesting to see how many ppl wanted to get in this by paying more than $43/share.


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except... nasdaq already filled many of those orders and many filled already sold. at this point, damage is done. are they actually suggesting some still have pending limit orders?


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drd2501 said:   kantscholar said:   mariusz said:   FB continues it's descent into oblivion. How many days before it cracks $30?
How disappointing that there are no options.


Once they start trading, the pricing is going to be ridiculous. I'm staying away from FB, but I'd be a seller of those options rather than a buyer.


If you were to pick one, which would it be Sell Calls or Sell Puts?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-23/facebook-at-22-by-decem...

How prescient of Bloomberg....

Again, I wouldn't touch FB... but if you made me I'd sell puts. At least I know what my loss will be. The stupidity of the market in sending these trash stocks up knows no limits. I wouldn't want to be stuck short when FB is up at 70.


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Thoughts on NTAP? Looking to let it fall another $1 or $2 and sell $25 cash covered puts few months out. Suicide or jackpot?


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Facebook market makers' losses total at least $100 million
Poor MM's LOL, nobody would be complaining if they made $100mil


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hakujin said:   word is GREECE will not leave the Euro zone. Wonder if that's good news at this point. :/ tired of hearing about greece. Maybe Iran, Greece, Spain, France, and the whole lot can just cancel each other out.


Only thing keeping me from a long position now on PAY is the word on the street: If you're not flat into this weekend, you are INSANE. That and that turd continues to head downhill. 40.62. would already lost a buck on what seemed a solid down side 30 min ago.

Word from where?

Greece will leave the euro eventually. Every cent that Germany has donated to Greece has just been kicking that can down the road. Unless they keep all the broke countries in the Euro and Germany moves out and back to its own currency, that is how Greece could stay on the Euro. But the currency union as it currently exists cannot last. But, if the broke countries leave the euro, that is GOOD for the euro strength.


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I think the market is gonna tank today.

3 day weekend, uncertainty, end of month.

Feels majorly red.


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Thinking about picking up VXX since we might see a down day today, just wish it was under $20.


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colebert said:   I think the market is gonna tank today.

3 day weekend, uncertainty, end of month.

Feels majorly red.

Nahhh,... gonna be flat to slight down I think, low volume ping pong day


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dk240t said:   hakujin said:   word is GREECE will not leave the Euro zone. Wonder if that's good news at this point. :/ tired of hearing about greece. Maybe Iran, Greece, Spain, France, and the whole lot can just cancel each other out.


Only thing keeping me from a long position now on PAY is the word on the street: If you're not flat into this weekend, you are INSANE. That and that turd continues to head downhill. 40.62. would already lost a buck on what seemed a solid down side 30 min ago.


Word from where?

Greece will leave the euro eventually. Every cent that Germany has donated to Greece has just been kicking that can down the road. Unless they keep all the broke countries in the Euro and Germany moves out and back to its own currency, that is how Greece could stay on the Euro. But the currency union as it currently exists cannot last. But, if the broke countries leave the euro, that is GOOD for the euro strength.

bloomberg. but u know how ths changes minute by minute. agreed better if they leave.


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Why do you think that Greece leaving the eurozone is a good idea? Germans and french are export dependent economies. Once the Greek leave, german and french goods are not competitive anymore. That is the reason why those two countries want to hold onto Greece.


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AAPL closes at 555ish


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out of AAPL calls. ouch.


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GOOG near its 200day
ROSG all over the place


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In for some GOOG @ 594.20


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difficult to pick shorts here. 1st drop, then up, down, then up. seems really mixed so far.

chk maybe? who in their right mind holds that into weekend? aubrey could snort some coke this weekend and do something really KORAZY!


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cr3s said:   Why do you think that Greece leaving the eurozone is a good idea? Germans and french are export dependent economies. Once the Greek leave, german and french goods are not competitive anymore. That is the reason why those two countries want to hold onto Greece.
euro puts their exports at a serious disadvantage. euro will cripple them for a decade. exit is completion. markets like conclusions, but uncertainty is the perennial evil. plus greece has to do what's right for greece. never should have joined euro in 1st place.


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hakujin said:   difficult to pick shorts here. 1st drop, then up, down, then up. seems really mixed so far.

agreed. i added to my BIDU short but the market seems to lack direction right now.


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Never bought such a high flyer like GOOG, but in for 19 at 594.47.


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FB already lost most of its gains from yesterday.


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foeplay said:   FB already lost most of its gains from yesterday.

difficult mentally for me to short at this point. though i think they will tumble further.


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what are thoughts on shorting a stock destined for failure but with a uber small float? i speak about MFRM; hugely over inflated price, crappy company (rebranded many times) w/ a shorts 9 to 1. Problem is price swings because of float. It only take a few hundred shares. If I short 1000 (Which should have no impact since borrowing shares from another investor no?), then buy to cover, I'm thinking the buy will make price jump. Thoughts? I know one thing. No way they are closing up 4.69%!


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