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chaddi said:   2hotforu said:   DelCheapo said:   Hmmmm will NOK go under $2 this week?

LOL! I hope not I have all ready wrote my whole position off as a tax write off.


I hate this tax system. If I make $100K in a year, I pay taxes on $100K but If I lose $100K in a year, I need 33 Years to claim tax benefits on the losses.

My grandfather took a $30,000 beating in the market back in '01. Pulled all his money out and put it in a variable annuity. Died in December. As executor of his estate, I will have the pleasure of filing his final $3k capital gains loss.


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Can't you claim the $100k of losses against capital gains in any future year? I know it's better against income, but if you ever sell a stock at a profit I think you can offset.


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bombcar said:   Can't you claim the $100k of losses against capital gains in any future year? I know it's better against income, but if you ever sell a stock at a profit I think you can offset.

I think you can offset with only $3K loss per year.


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No, they will offset future gains. So if you are sitting on 75k in losses from previous years and make 75k this year from investing, they'll cancel and you won't have to pay taxes on those gains.

Now, what I'm interested in is how the various tax programs deal with something like real estate gains vs capital losses in securities. 75k in real estate gains should be able to offset the 75k in losses from previous years. I haven't looked into what happens in this situation, but that makes sense to me.


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davef139 said:   chaddi said:   davef139 said:   Good lord the vxx calls i bought at close friday paid off HUGE, exited my holdings at about the peak!

Would be helpful if you share trade when you enter in a position....


From Jun 22

davef139 said:   In for some VXX weeklys! Gogo fear

You even quoted me =D

Nice work setting the record straight.


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ARNA bear raid?

Or does it need to go under 9 to qualify?


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There's the bear raid.


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How do you play the VXX? i understand that it's centered on market puts, but i can never make heads or tails of it's trading price. :/ should be GREEN now.


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colebert said:   There's the bear raid. <-- apathy. f--kin MMS bullshitting this morning trying to suck one last cent out of grandma. stocks don't trade up on earnings day that much, so why would they on a binary even, especially when profits are still high (to some) and the potential (however small) to lose it all.


I had to drop out, couldn't bear the bear any more. and now i'm a double L loser. :/


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anyone buyinh ARNA here?


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colebert said:   ARNA bear raid?

Or does it need to go under 9 to qualify?

lol, what's with your obsession re: ARNA and bear raids? Do you even have a position?


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I'm teasing Hak and ARNA longs. If you looked at the ARNA message boards over the last couple days it's everyone raging uncontrollably about bear raids.

I'm considering putting a 13/6 strangle on right now.


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Some on explain how to trade market volatility? any thing better other than VXX??

any one traded UVXY?


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It appears ARNA was just granted the patent:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOF...

could be a coincidence, but it certainly feels like good news.


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If you are planning to hold ARNA thru Wed, one good approach would be to make sure to take off your stop-loss. I am sure the MM's will try every trick in their basket to trip that stop-loss. As always, this still depends on your risk profile.


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This is what FDA approval did for SUPN today - http://www.google.com/finance?q=SUPN


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^not too shabby!


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Buying 100 ARNA lottery tickets for tmmrw.
fingers crossed.


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big difference between 300 million market cap and 2 billion


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Is the FDA decision per market or post market tomorrow?


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strange that ARNA is flatlining today... You'd think at least it would be up in anticipation of tomorrow's approval.

I


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wzcunningham said:   Is the FDA decision per market or post market tomorrow?

Not specified but should be some time during the trading day. Expect trading to be halted when the announcement is made (either way). Will be fun to watch.


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I expected a lot more movement in ARNA today (either way), as well. The calm before the storm I guess...

Personally, I can't believe that the patent was granted today by pure coincidence. It was filed back in May 2011.


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defjukie said:   I expected a lot more movement in ARNA today (either way), as well. The calm before the storm I guess...

Personally, I can't believe that the patent was granted today by pure coincidence. It was filed back in May 2011.

Chasing losses... in @ 9.05, expect it to be shot down now that im in.


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I'm here for the slaughter... 500 at 9.07.


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In my view ARNA it will get approval.


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Do we have any other stock to talk about??


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How far does this fall if it doesn't get approval?


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under $2, back to where it started

how about VVUS?


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chaddi said:   Do we have any other stock to talk about??

I'll be looking to get back in AAPL once I exit MNST, but until then, nothing else for me, part of the reason I've been more quiet. Just holding and waiting.. especially for the 28th, anxious to see what happens when they hit the S&P 500.


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chaddi said:   Do we have any other stock to talk about??

ERX trending nicely, will exit if it falls back to 34


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long HRB and MON earning play


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F it. In for 120 ARNA @ $8.90

Hope I didn't jinx it.


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Approval mostly priced in. If it gets approved it prob goes to 11-12ish... if it doesnt it slips back to 2-3.


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^not so sure about that, there are still 40M+ short shares as of 6/15/2012. There could be a significant squeeze.


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weird that it didn't move much today, feels a bit odd considering approval is tomorrow.


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VVUS to me is dead in the water. too risky, ceo selling all his shares, REMS going bad, no marketing partner, no distribution channels.


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"http://www.marketwatch.com/story/alcoa-outlook-cut-by-deutsche-b...

Window dressing started with AA outlook being lowered just 2 weeks before the results.
Now Alcoa will "surprise" the markets by beating the already lowered estimates and markets will Rally.


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defjukie said:   ^not so sure about that, there are still 40M+ short shares as of 6/15/2012. There could be a significant squeeze. i'm back in, but do not think there is anywhere close to that many short shares now.


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