There were 10 new inquiries on my credit report in the last 2 days from all the different banks and retail card cos. Well, someone got my SSN apparently. The interesting thing is that while on the phone with banks I was told that some inquiries and applications were done using not only my SSN but also name and address, and some only had SSN matched.
So I called all the banks and cos and thankfully none has yet approved applications or opened accounts (express alerts do work indeed). Couple banks refused to remove inquiries saying that they were done in my name therefore I need to work with the credit bureaus directly. Which I did - put a fraud alert, filed a police report, sent requests to CBs blah blah blah.
In the end there were 10 additional inquiries on my reports, 3-4 on each (among Equifax/Experian/Transunion). Scores dropped from 780 to 740 on Experian, haven't seen updated scores for the rest two.
The problem is that I am set to apply for a mortgage in 2-3 weeks. Does the knowledgeable all have any suggestions, bits of wisedom, actions to take I haven't taken yet to ensure that 1) the damage is contained to what has already been done and 2) what can be done to get these inquiries out of the reports quickly and get the score back up at least a little bit.
chrishaw said: Bullshit. Your score did not drop 40 points on 3 inquiries.Maybe you should change your title to "Not So Happy Member"
mercutio34
Member
posted: Nov. 1, 2009 @ 10:09a
Since he referenced Experian, he's probably talking about a FAKO score. Depending on what company he uses, it might very well be telling him that it dropped 40 points. The scores are bullshit, not the OP's post.
OP, seems like you've done about all you can. The banks are probably correct in that they don't have the ability to remove the inquiries, and they probably don't have much incentive to bother to try anyways. Your best bet for getting the inquiries removed is to keep pestering the credit bureaus. Good luck with that. :/
And if they can find your nephew, oops I meant stranger, that stole your identity you can sue the bugger for damages. Even if your mortgage rate didn't change, sue for .25% interest of your mortgage rate. Drumroll for new thread, "Setting myself up for ID theft for fun and profit!"
So I called all the banks and cos and thankfully none has yet approved applications or opened accounts (express alerts do work indeed). Couple banks refused to remove inquiries saying that they were done in my name therefore I need to work with the credit bureaus directly. Which I did - put a fraud alert, filed a police report, sent requests to CBs blah blah blah. Any suggestions are highly appreciated
One thing I'd add is to send a certified letter to all places where inquiries were made, with cc to the CB's, explaining what happened and requesting an investigation to remove the inquiries and immediately close all accounts in question.
codename47
Senior Member - 3K
posted: Nov. 1, 2009 @ 6:39p
The problem is that I am set to apply for a mortgage in 2-3 weeks. Does the knowledgeable all have any suggestions, bits of wisedom, actions to take I haven't taken yet to ensure that 1) the damage is contained to what has already been done and 2) what can be done to get these inquiries out of the reports quickly and get the score back up at least a little bit.
If you are getting flack from the CRA's or anyone that pulled your report as far as removing the inq's, I would sue them all and tell them that you are applying for a mortgage and if they don't get off your report in the next 48 hours you'll be amending your complaint and adding a zero to your demand. Notice, I did not say threaten to sue, send an intent to sue, or anything of that sort, just sue them.
DOCUMENT everything. All calls, all emails, all letters.
IF you have probs getting your mortgage, ask WHY (and document).
pre-emptively, you could supply your lender with an older credit report, the latest credit report, and the Police report. And tell them it is being taken care of, but you will be willing to take this as far as it needs to go...
was your social security card stolen from your wallet?
XBOHDPuKC
Greedy Member
posted: Nov. 1, 2009 @ 8:32p
thanks for replies and suggestions.
qcumber: no, nothing was stolen from the wallet. I kind of suspect that this might be a consequence of a year old security breach at the UT at Austin when thousands of students SSNs were stolen. Can't think of anything else.
Got old reports and scores stored. Will see how it goes, will be applying for a mortgage in a couple weeks.
connorzen
New Member
posted: Nov. 1, 2009 @ 9:02p
There's a great book by Frank Abagnale (the subject of the movie "Catch Me If You Can") that he wrote several years back called "Stealing Your Identity" or something like that. Just do a search for his name on Amazon. Anyway, the book is a treasure trove of advice in situations like this. Having your Soc. number, bank account information (like I did), or identity stolen is a pain in the butt, but there ARE things you can do to fight back.
connorzen said: Having your Soc. number, bank account information (like I did), or identity stolen is a pain in the butt, but there ARE things you can do to fight back.
Like sue
Nonaii
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 2, 2009 @ 12:52a
chrishaw said: Bullshit. Your score did not drop 40 points on 3 inquiries. green to counter reds, because I (think I) understood what you meant. no, 3 inquiries won't cause a 40 point drop, even with buckets in consideration; and it usually won't do it even to FAKOs. so something else is going on with the credit scores, be they FICO or FAKO. something else deeper is going down with the credit reports.
MoonlitHollow said: And if they can find your nephew, oops I meant stranger, that stole your identity you can sue the bugger for damages. Even if your mortgage rate didn't change, sue for .25% interest of your mortgage rate. Drumroll for new thread, "Setting myself up for ID theft for fun and profit!" It's too bad that the bottom line is most identity theft is a lot closer to home than stranger theft.
XBOHDPuKC said: thanks for replies and suggestions. qcumber: no, nothing was stolen from the wallet. I kind of suspect that this might be a consequence of a year old security breach at the UT at Austin when thousands of students SSNs were stolen. Can't think of anything else. Got old reports and scores stored. Will see how it goes, will be applying for a mortgage in a couple weeks. That was a year ago? Why now? Maybe something else HAS happened. I wouldn't rule it out. It'd be nice if that was the case, but don't be surprised if something else more recent has happened.
Good luck with getting this all straightened out. It appears you're doing the right thing in contacting people, and filing police reports regarding this. The consequences can last for a long time. Everyone's advice about documenting EVERYTHING can not be stressed enough.
So if anyone is interested in a quick update. Talking to banks was a major pain of course. Well, some of them weren't that bad at all, helpful and such. It appears that CrapOne pulls reports from all 3 bureaus. Some banks wanted a mailed in or faxed letter in order to start looking into it - they got it, along with the police report and all that jazz.
In most cases it appears that the bastard used my name, street name and number, but wrong apt #, wrong phone, and place of employment. The kicker is that my previous employer name is totally misspelled on my Equifax report - only there, and this spelling was used in all applications. Not sure if I can make any conclusions outta this though. Most of the applications were for retail credit cards (but through banks, except one through Nordstrom). In all but one case applications were submitted through internet, in Wachovia case they tried to apply over the phone and "were referred to the local branch as the CSR wasn't able to verify the identity."
No losses so far, from pretty much everyone I got an oral consent to remove the inquiry from the credit report.
As far as FICO/FAKO - I used to have 782 on experian through Citi identity monitor, when I got the score through Experian itself it showed 740. Maybe these are two completely different beasts, but for an uneducated consumer (ahem) they look as completely comparable numbers.
No losses so far, from pretty much everyone I got an oral consent to remove the inquiry from the credit report.
"Oral Consent" means nothing. Have you verified that indeed the inquiries were removed from the CB's and your report, and most importantly; have you checked the reports after the "oral" consent?
Did the FI's close the accounts in question and sent you proof that the did so?
XBOHDPuKC
Greedy Member
posted: Nov. 3, 2009 @ 7:03p
Well, it's too early to tell whether they would do anything. They all claim that it might take the bureaus up to a month to clean those up. It does not appear that any of the bank actually opened accounts. As a matter of fact I got two letters from US Bank and HSBC requesting additional information to support applications, so I am not all that worries about accounts being opened and used. As far as inquiries go I guess I'll have to wait a bit to see if anything is done, and if not - then another round of talks, mailings, faxings etc is coming to town.
XBOHDPuKC said: The kicker is that my previous employer name is totally misspelled on my Equifax report - only there, and this spelling was used in all applications.
Sounds like it could be a dumpster diver... invest in a shredder.
OR
Check your computer for a keylogger, or other nasty. It sounds like you may have looked at your CR, and "someone" got a copy of it...
allamerathlete
Greedy Member
posted: Nov. 17, 2009 @ 10:18p
I would remove those credit inquiries ASAP. Those can hinder you.
SuperG03
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 17, 2009 @ 10:55p
I would file an online dispute to remove the INQ from each of the credit bureaus. Most of the time, when you do it online, they are removed in very short order (like 24-48 hours). Now keep in mind, disputing INQ on credit reports raises flags as to potential id theft / fraud, so disputing legitimate INQ can have a negative impact. However, since you have already placed a fraud alert, etc, I think you will have no problems getting those INQ off right away. Hope that helps. Let us know how it goes. Thanks.
SuperG03
Nonaii
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 18, 2009 @ 7:30a
SuperG03 said: I would file an online dispute to remove the INQ from each of the credit bureaus. Most of the time, when you do it online, they are removed in very short order (like 24-48 hours). Now keep in mind, disputing INQ on credit reports raises flags as to potential id theft / fraud, so disputing legitimate INQ can have a negative impact. However, since you have already placed a fraud alert, etc, I think you will have no problems getting those INQ off right away. Hope that helps. Let us know how it goes. Thanks.
SuperG03
There is fraud. OP needs to file a police report. Things have changed from the old days, though, regarding inquiries. Sometimes it happens quickly, most often now the credit bureaus want a letter from the creditor/bank stating that the inquiry was fraudulant/non-permissible/a mistake. I haven't removed any inquiries; but then I haven't tried - just got the 'we need a letter'.
Have you been able to do so recently online, though? what was your secret?
Maybe the OP will have better luck since there is actual fraud involved and not an attempt at goodwill.
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