Renting and Earthquake Proofing

Archived From: Finance
  • Page :
  • 1
  • Text Only

I just found out that the Condo/Apt building I'm renting out a unit in, is going to have earthquake proofing structure repair done to it. One of the homeowners told us that they will have construction from 8am to 4pm. I work at home and usually have to work the night shift/early morning because I deal with clients on the east coast. I never received any written notice of this, and I am on good terms with the landlord who I get alone with fine.

Before I speak with the landlord - anyone else ever deal with this? They mentioned it may be a 2 month long project. It is going to be impossible to work my hours and have this going on for that long of a time period. Thanks.



Ambien and earplugs.


Your priorities are in the right order because nobody has ever died from an earthquake.


you arent renting a business address, you are renting a home.


Do you even have the proper licenses to be working from home and permission from the landlord??

Cities typically have prescribed times when construction workers can make noise...plus its unreasonable to assume noise will be occuring all day every day near your unit.

Stop getting ready to complain and just deal with it if/when it actually has any impact on you...im betting it wont.


SUCKISSTAPLES said: you arent renting a business address, you are renting a home.

I understand that and am up to date with what you asked. I have no intention of complaining as I mentioned I am on good terms with my landlord. The ambien and earplugs are ready. Now when I say it would be impossible to deal with, that may be exaggerating it. But if you haven't lived in my building you have no idea how loud simple noises can get because it is like an echo chamber. So they can work on any side of the building and you can hear it.

A week or two not a problem, 2 months is a problem.

I have a feeling that making this old building earthquake proof is going to get a bit loud.

It doesn't sound good when one of the homeowners says to get prepared for it, and they have lived here even longer.


dgarby said: SUCKISSTAPLES said: you arent renting a business address, you are renting a home.

I understand that and am up to date with what you asked. I have no intention of complaining as I mentioned I am on good terms with my landlord.
Then what is the finance issue and what is your question?

Are you trying to ask for a rent credit for the disturbance?
Are you trying to break your lease bc you believe the noise will make the premises uninhabitable?


You need to clarify what it is you are trying to get out of this.


SUCKISSTAPLES said: you arent renting a business address, you are renting a home.He's concerned about being able to sleep during construction. A lot of people work night/graveyard shift.SUCKISSTAPLES said: Do you even have the proper licenses to be working from home and permission from the landlord??I was unaware that any licenses were required to work from home when all that work includes is one person talking on the phone. My city & state do not require a license for that.

He isn't having customers to his location, there is no inventory to store, he has no factory equipment or chemicals, etc..

Does he truly need permission from the landlord?


SUCKISSTAPLES said: Are you trying to ask for a rent credit for the disturbance?

That would seem reasonable. I'm on month to month lease.

After searching the subject the best I can come up with:

if it is 'optional' construction there might be a reduction in rent according to the 'quiet enjoyment clause'


dgarby rated: | posted: December 22, 2012 @ 12:22am

Guys, my apartment was seriously trashed by the big earthquakes. It will be impossible for me to work, and lots of my personal belongings have been damaged. I think I may have hurt my leg too. How much of this is my landlord liable for?


I can tell you the good relationship youve enjoyed with your landlord will be over if you ask for a credit for possibke disturbance when there hasnt even been any work started


dgarby said: I'm on month to month lease.

Then leave. What's the problem?


tripleB said: Then leave. What's the problem?

That's an option. Problem is having to give 30 day notice, plus time and cost to move into another rental.


dgarby said: tripleB said: Then leave. What's the problem?

That's an option. Problem is having to give 30 day notice, plus time and cost to move into another rental.

Tell them the construction noise is unacceptable and tell them to waive the 30 notice if they are not giving you 30 day notice of the construction.

Cost to move into another rental is the cost of being schizophrenic and worrying about some construction noise.


tripleB said:

Tell them the construction noise is unacceptable and tell them to waive the 30 notice if they are not giving you 30 day notice of the construction.

Cost to move into another rental is the cost of being schizophrenic and worrying about some construction noise.

First advice is welcome...

The name calling immature. And no I don't have enhanced perceptions of sounds.


dgarby said: tripleB said:

Tell them the construction noise is unacceptable and tell them to waive the 30 notice if they are not giving you 30 day notice of the construction.

Cost to move into another rental is the cost of being schizophrenic and worrying about some construction noise.


First advice is welcome...

The name calling immature. And no I don't have enhanced perceptions of sounds.

Schizophrenia is not name calling, it's a clinical diagnosis. Do the construction sounds tell you to do bad things? Perhaps the construction workers are hiding messages in the rythmical way they drill into concrete.


tripleB - You're simply not worth the time.

Other replies or information is appreciated.


Xnarg said: I was unaware that any licenses were required to work from home when all that work includes is one person talking on the phone. My city & state do not require a license for that.

He isn't having customers to his location, there is no inventory to store, he has no factory equipment or chemicals, etc..

Does he truly need permission from the landlord?
There are areas where all home-based businesses are prohibited, not just by deed restrictions but by zoning laws. That's why I refunded your credit card charge for access to my web cam.


not only that, most landlords prohibit business activity in their rental agreements for residences. Even if all you do is make phone calls, work on the net, or keep your business truck in the driveway, landlords have the right to restrict and/or demand extra payment for such nonresidential usage.


SUCKISSTAPLES said: not only that, most landlords prohibit business activity in their rental agreements for residences. Even if all you do is make phone calls, work on the net, or keep your business truck in the driveway, landlords have the right to restrict and/or demand extra payment for such nonresidential usage.

I have never heard of a zoning law that restricted telecommuting type of work from home, nor have I ever seen it in a lease agreement before. Where I live it is common to see lease clauses against home businesses that generate foot traffic, excessive noise, damage to the property etc... I don't think working online or taking phone calls would fall under prohibited activity on most leases, but maybe things are done differently on the west coast.


chimeer said: I have never heard of a zoning law that restricted telecommuting type of work from home, nor have I ever seen it in a lease agreement before. Where I live it is common to see lease clauses against home businesses that generate foot traffic, excessive noise, damage to the property etc... I don't think working online or taking phone calls would fall under prohibited activity on most leases, but maybe things are done differently on the west coast.An accountant in Illinois was prohibited from working from her home because of zoning. No foot traffic, just mail and faxes.

Some of these laws were implemented in the 1930s because of pressure from unions and the Better Government Association to prevent home sweatshops.


Most leases are going to contain language along the lines of the following:

Lessee agrees that it will use and occupy the premises only as a single family residence, and that the Lessee will conduct no business, trade or occupation whatsoever on the premises.

Also, insurance policies are likely to contain similar provisions.


exactly...in most cities in CA you are also required to file for a HOME OCCUPATION license with the city.... do most people fail to do it? Yes. But thems the rules.


If you're on good terms with the landlord, then why don't you just ask him what is going to happen? As others have said, this is an improvement to the building, one that directly benefits your safety. That said, since you work nights and want to sleep during the day, you don't want 3 months of jackhammers outside your window or something like that. Fortunately, you are on a month to month lease. If things look like they're getting out of hand, you are free to give notice and move, no worries. Really, I don't see any problem here.


SUCKISSTAPLES said: exactly...in most cities in CA you are also required to file for a HOME OCCUPATION license with the city.... do most people fail to do it? Yes. But thems the rules.

Is that like the certificate of occupany required in NY? Because those are required before closing.


scrouds said: SUCKISSTAPLES said: exactly...in most cities in CA you are also required to file for a HOME OCCUPATION license with the city.... do most people fail to do it? Yes. But thems the rules.

Is that like the certificate of occupany required in NY? Because those are required before closing.
no, in this instance "home occupation" really means "home business". whether you rent or own a home in CA, if you do any business within the home, you are supposed to get a home occupation license from your city. Of course, most people dont and there is no enforcement unless some kind of complaint/problem surfaces.

Its not a certificate of the ability to occupy the residence.




Disclaimer: By providing links to other sites, FatWallet.com does not guarantee, approve or endorse the information or products available at these sites, nor does a link indicate any association with or endorsement by the linked site to FatWallet.com.


While FatWallet makes every effort to post correct information, offers are subject to change without notice.
Some exclusions may apply based upon merchant policies.
© 1999-2012