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Wanted to hear from the FW community on how to handle this situation. I have paid property tax on a condo in MA for the whole year of 2009 till date. I am not in US for the same period and have had no income. This means I will not pay any income tax. Now how can I handle the part where I have paid the property tax. Can this be beneficial for me anyway? I am not so knowledgeable abt the IRS any help comment will be appreciated.



Depends on if the country you currently reside in offers any tax benefit for taxes paid to another country


juliox said: Depends on if the country you currently reside in offers any tax benefit for taxes paid to another country

Its a tax free country, no tax benefits


cid911 said: Can this be beneficial for me anyway?Yes, you have avoided late fees and penalties


Property taxes and income taxes have nothing in common. One is assessed by the U.S. government and the other is assessed by your local county office. Although you are not living in the U.S., your property taxes still help pay for city and county provisions, i.e. school districts, emergency agencies, etc... Your property taxes are deductible on your U.S. return, but if you have no income, then the property taxes you pay are of no personal benefit to you.


Is the condo for personal use, a rental or for some kind of business? It's possible you can capitalize or carry forward the cost, potentially giving you a tax benefit in a future year, if it's not personal.


LH2004 said: Is the condo for personal use, a rental or for some kind of business? It's possible you can capitalize or carry forward the cost, potentially giving you a tax benefit in a future year, if it's not personal.Are you suggesting he start smuggling women into the country? Frankly, I think that type of suggestion is highly inappropriate.


An Acorn staffer might be of help


cid911,

Are you a US Citizen or US Permanent Resident? If so, you owe Uncle Sam taxes on your worldwide income, perhaps less any income tax paid to the country you're in. (You said there is no tax there). You can deduct property tax paid to the municipality in Massachusetts, which would make sense if the property tax is greater than the standard deduction.


NEDeals said: cid911,

Are you a US Citizen or US Permanent Resident? If so, you owe Uncle Sam taxes on your worldwide income, perhaps less any income tax paid to the country you're in. (You said there is no tax there). You can deduct property tax paid to the municipality in Massachusetts, which would make sense if the property tax is greater than the standard deduction.

I am not a PR or a citizen. I will adjust my status next year to PR and will move back to US.


LH2004 said: Is the condo for personal use, a rental or for some kind of business? It's possible you can capitalize or carry forward the cost, potentially giving you a tax benefit in a future year, if it's not personal.

Currently it is occupied sometimes by my friend when he is in town. If I rent it out will that help me anyway on tax issue? How can I capitalize or carry forward the cost as u mentioned before?


NEDeals said: cid911,

Are you a US Citizen or US Permanent Resident? If so, you owe Uncle Sam taxes on your worldwide income, perhaps less any income tax paid to the country you're in. (You said there is no tax there). You can deduct property tax paid to the municipality in Massachusetts, which would make sense if the property tax is greater than the standard deduction.

This is correct, but there is the foreign earned income exclusion that may be applicable if the OP qualifies. However, if all the income is excluded, then any property taxes paid will not offer any tax benefits in this case. The OP should review the tax regs on this and for the state of MA. While the OP may not have any tax liability, the OP most likely is still required to file a tax return(s).


If you rent the condo out you would have to pay income taxes on its income however you could deduct from that income any property taxes paid and other expenses like mortgage and management fees.

Be aware that renting residential property from overseas is not the easiest thing to do. You are subject to landlord-tenant law in the area of your rental, which is Mass. is quite complex and favors the tenant.


cid911 said: NEDeals said: cid911,

Are you a US Citizen or US Permanent Resident? If so, you owe Uncle Sam taxes on your worldwide income, perhaps less any income tax paid to the country you're in. (You said there is no tax there). You can deduct property tax paid to the municipality in Massachusetts, which would make sense if the property tax is greater than the standard deduction.


I am not a PR or a citizen. I will adjust my status next year to PR and will move back to US.

I'm curious...how can one adjust status and go back and forth at will between permanent resident and no status? Typically once permanent status is relinquished, the process to become a permanent resident would begin anew...


NEDeals said: I'm curious...how can one adjust status and go back and forth at will between permanent resident and no status? Typically once permanent status is relinquished, the process to become a permanent resident would begin anew...For tax purposes, the only categories for aliens are "resident" and "nonresident." You're a resident if you have a green card (which is certainly hard to give up and regain); or, if you're present in the U.S. for a substantial number of days over the past 3 years (a weighted average that gives more weight to the current year), but excluding certain days (for example, days when you're in the U.S. as a student or teacher on a J visa, subject to time limits). If you're regularly moving in and out of the U.S., it's easy to be a resident some years and not others based on the day-count test. On top of that, a treaty with your home country can effectively make you a nonresident even if you would be a resident under these tests; it is sometimes easy to gain and lose that benefit. Finally, under certain circumstances, a nonresident can elect to be treated as a resident.




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