My father is a real estate agent and the real estate he works at charges one month's rent for finding an apartment. He had clients who he found an apartment for and who signed the standard paper saying that they would pay and promised to pay, but haven't for a few weeks. The landlord told my father under no circumstances would he give them the keys before my father got paid, but he did anyway. Now these people don't pick up their phone and have no intention of paying. I asked my fathers boss to sue them in small claims court but he says its a waste of time and he says that when he won cases in the past it would be impossible to collect anyway. This has happened to my father a few times and I'm trying to help him collect, but the first thing that came to mind was small claims, which is now out of the question. He can't go after his boss either because he doesn't want to be out of a job and on bad terms with him. Previously I had my lawyer send a letter to other people that owed money and they just ignored it. Any other ideas? I was thinking about possibly selling it to a collection agency, but I have no experience with that and the boss would have to agree. Thanks in advance.
It sounds like you have covered the possibilities well. IF the broker won't bother, then your Dad got the short end of the stick. In my area, such contracts are with the landlord. But in this day and age, did your father have a renter's agent agreement? All I can tell you is read the contract. Determine who was supposed to pay and send them a letter. I agree, rentals are such a PIA.
Glitch99 said: Doesnt the landlord usually pay the agent for bring in a tenant?Depends who the contract was with...the renter for finding an apartment, or the landlord for finding a tenant...
Either way, if dad isnt willing to sue or use a collector, there isnt much else he can do. Bang on their door every night??
patsan
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 26, 2009 @ 10:07a
The contract is with the renter, they just signed a paper that says they will be one month's rent to the real estate, the owner of the real estate really needs to make it a more lengthy contract, but he doesn't usually listen to my suggestions. I'm going to have my father try to speak to him on Monday about selling the debt to a collection agency and letting them handle it. I have the names and addresses so the people wont be hard to find at all. I'll also give them the signed "contracts", but I'm not sure if that will be enough proof for them. I certainly dont want anybody suing the real estate for improperly collecting debts, or do I not have to worry about that once the collection agency takes the case?
sxn
Member
posted: Nov. 26, 2009 @ 12:51p
Tell your dad to get a real job. Charging one month's rent for opening a door to an apartment is not work that deserves that kind of money (especially in this economy).
With the amount of time and money he wastes trying to go after these people, he could find a job that actually benefits society.
It sounds like it's over, patsan. The contract is not with your dad, it's with a real estate agency who has no interest in pursuing it. Which may be perfectly reasonable - many renters are uncollectible.
There may be a separate question about whether your dad is still owed a commission by the agency, but that depends on his agreement there, not the one with the renters.
patsan
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 26, 2009 @ 9:05p
sxn said: Tell your dad to get a real job. Charging one month's rent for opening a door to an apartment is not work that deserves that kind of money (especially in this economy).
With the amount of time and money he wastes trying to go after these people, he could find a job that actually benefits society.
Why don't you worry about your benefit to society rather than judging other people? All you do is wack off in front of the computer all day, I highly doubt you contribute anything. And I'd be more than glad to meet you in real life and beat your a*s. So go to hell, and stop wasting time with dumb comments. Lets hear about your job and how you contribute. probably sitting on welfare collecting food stamps.
In addition, you have no clue what the job of a RE agent is, its not just opening a door. But my fist can definitely explain it to you.
patsan said: the owner of the real estate really needs to make it a more lengthy contract, but he doesn't usually listen to my suggestions.And why would a business owner listen to some kid of an employee?
I'm going to have my father try to speak to him on Monday
I have the names and addresses so the people wont be hard to find at all.
I'll also give them the signed "contracts"
I certainly dont want anybody suing the real estate
or do I not have to worry about thatAre you your dad's legal guardian? Is he legally incompetent? If not, I fail to see how any of this is any of your business. Your dad can do whatever your dad wants to do about the situation, and if he chooses to just let it go then more power to him.
Keep meddling, and you're going to find yourself filing for your dad's unemployment benefits.
patsan
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 26, 2009 @ 9:17p
Glitch99 said: patsan said: the owner of the real estate really needs to make it a more lengthy contract, but he doesn't usually listen to my suggestions.And why would a business owner listen to some kid of an employee?
I'm going to have my father try to speak to him on Monday
I have the names and addresses so the people wont be hard to find at all.
I'll also give them the signed "contracts"
I certainly dont want anybody suing the real estate
or do I not have to worry about thatAre you your dad's legal guardian? Is he legally incompetent? If not, I fail to see how any of this is any of your business. Your dad can do whatever your dad wants to do about the situation, and if he chooses to just let it go then more power to him.
Keep meddling, and you're going to find yourself filing for your dad's unemployment benefits.
I help out my maintaining the network, website, providing computer support, and accounting, so I speak to the owner on a regular basis. He is also pretty frustrated because this is money that he's not getting either, he just knows small claims is a lost cause. He is now open to the idea of just giving it to a debt collector if I take care of everything.
patsan said: I help out my maintaining the network, website, providing computer support, and accounting, so I speak to the owner on a regular basis. He is also pretty frustrated because this is money that he's not getting either, he just knows small claims is a lost cause. He is now open to the idea of just giving it to a debt collector if I take care of everything.And yet it still remains none of your business.
patsan said: sxn said: Tell your dad to get a real job. Charging one month's rent for opening a door to an apartment is not work that deserves that kind of money (especially in this economy).
With the amount of time and money he wastes trying to go after these people, he could find a job that actually benefits society.
Why don't you worry about your benefit to society rather than judging other people? All you do is wack off in front of the computer all day, I highly doubt you contribute anything. And I'd be more than glad to meet you in real life and beat your a*s. So go to hell, and stop wasting time with dumb comments. Lets hear about your job and how you contribute. probably sitting on welfare collecting food stamps.
In addition, you have no clue what the job of a RE agent is, its not just opening a door. But my fist can definitely explain it to you.
You sir, are an e-tough guy.
Your fist will explain the grueling procedure of complimenting the windows or the plumbing fixtures? Or lighting a candle and sitting at the dining room table with your laptop all Sunday afternoon?
patsan
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 26, 2009 @ 9:20p
Glitch99 said: patsan said: the owner of the real estate really needs to make it a more lengthy contract, but he doesn't usually listen to my suggestions.And why would a business owner listen to some kid of an employee?
I'm going to have my father try to speak to him on Monday
I have the names and addresses so the people wont be hard to find at all.
I'll also give them the signed "contracts"
I certainly dont want anybody suing the real estate
or do I not have to worry about thatAre you your dad's legal guardian? Is he legally incompetent? If not, I fail to see how any of this is any of your business. Your dad can do whatever your dad wants to do about the situation, and if he chooses to just let it go then more power to him.
Keep meddling, and you're going to find yourself filing for your dad's unemployment benefits.
Both the owner and my dad are asking for my help with this, and about figuring out some kind of procedure if this happens in the future, so I'm not meddling without being asked.
patsan
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 26, 2009 @ 9:23p
christoj879 said: patsan said: sxn said: Tell your dad to get a real job. Charging one month's rent for opening a door to an apartment is not work that deserves that kind of money (especially in this economy).
With the amount of time and money he wastes trying to go after these people, he could find a job that actually benefits society.
Why don't you worry about your benefit to society rather than judging other people? All you do is wack off in front of the computer all day, I highly doubt you contribute anything. And I'd be more than glad to meet you in real life and beat your a*s. So go to hell, and stop wasting time with dumb comments. Lets hear about your job and how you contribute. probably sitting on welfare collecting food stamps.
In addition, you have no clue what the job of a RE agent is, its not just opening a door. But my fist can definitely explain it to you.
You sir, are an e-tough guy.
And who are you, I'm not sure I was talking to you. and I'm not an e-tough guy, this guy has no clue what he's talking about and is judging people instead of contributing to the thread. we'll see what he says, I dont mind meeting him in person and seeing how judgmental he is then. I bet his answer would be very different. People hide behind their computer saying all kinds of crap, but I'm 100% sure he wouldn't talk like that to someone in person because he'd get shut up very quickly.
Your fist will explain the grueling procedure of complimenting the windows or the plumbing fixtures? Or lighting a candle and sitting at the dining room table with your laptop all Sunday afternoon?
patsan
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 26, 2009 @ 9:24p
Okay so when somebody in your family asks you for help, you should just tell them it's none of your business. Good plan, I hope you implement it and see how far it gets you.
Glitch99 said: patsan said: I help out my maintaining the network, website, providing computer support, and accounting, so I speak to the owner on a regular basis. He is also pretty frustrated because this is money that he's not getting either, he just knows small claims is a lost cause. He is now open to the idea of just giving it to a debt collector if I take care of everything.And yet it still remains none of your business.
Im betting this RE agency is not a "formal" agency structure, but more of a mom and pop shop where Op, his dad and the owner are not sophisticated businesspeople. Are they relatives by any chance?
patsan
Senior Member
posted: Nov. 26, 2009 @ 9:29p
SUCKISSTAPLES said: Im betting this RE agency is not a "formal" agency structure, but more of a mom and pop shop where Op, his dad and the owner are not sophisticated businesspeople. Are they relatives by any chance?
The owner is not a relative. It's not a very large agency. what does being a sophiscated businessperson have to do with it, the question was what are the possible methods of collecting other than small claims court.
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