Not sure if this was already discussed, but here is the email I received:
IMPORTANT INFORMATION about Your Complete Savings Account
Account Number Ending in: XXXX
Dear _________,
We are writing to let you know that your E*TRADE Bank account referenced above will soon be transferred to Discover Bank, and become a Discover Online Savings Account. This follows our plan to focus more exclusively on providing optimal investing solutions to our customers. We expect the transfer to occur on or about March 7, 2010. If you have already closed your account, please disregard this message.
Transferring your savings account will provide you with these important benefits:
• Rates that are at least 5X the national average¹ – currently 1.35% APY² • Continued FDIC insurance up to $250,000 per individual accountholder³ • No minimum balance requirement • Banking Specialists available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week
And you'll still enjoy fast and free online money transfers4, direct deposit capabilities and secure, 24/7 online access you enjoyed at E*TRADE Bank. For more information on Discover Bank's Online Savings Account, visit DiscoverBank.com/welcome.
If you have any other E*TRADE Bank or E*TRADE Securities accounts, this transfer will NOT affect them in any way.
Please note the following: • While the account transfer is pending, you can access your account online as usual and continue to use Quick Transfer to make individual and automated deposits. • Seven calendar days prior to the account transfer, Quick Transfers from accounts outside of E*TRADE will no longer be processed. Please take the time to delete any scheduled or recurring Quick Transfers you have for your account by this date. • Any checks you wish to deposit must also be received at least seven calendar days prior to the transfer. Checks received after this deadline will be returned to you by mail. • Direct deposits will be accepted up until March 5th, 2010. Direct deposits that come in after March 5th will be returned to the sending institution. • Past statements and tax documents will continue to be available on etrade.com after the transfer is completed. Your account history will not be transferred to Discover Bank. • The current mailing address we have on file for you is: xxxxxxx If this address is not current, please visit etrade.com and update your information.
Discover Bank will send you a welcome letter approximately five days before your account is transferred with complete details on your new account, including your new account number, an account agreement and information on how to register for Online Banking. After you register, you can set-up online money transfers and redirect any direct deposits to your new Discover Online Savings Account. In the meantime, if you have any questions, please feel free to contact us at 1-800-ETRADE-1 (1-800-387-2331) anytime, seven days a week or visit DiscoverBank.com/welcome.
We are working hard to make this transition as smooth as possible. We've appreciated having you as an E*TRADE Bank customer.
Sincerely,
Robert V. Burton President and Chief Operating Officer, E*TRADE Bank
PLEASE READ THE IMPORTANT DISCLOSURES BELOW
1. The APY for the Online Savings Account as of February 1, 2010 is more than 5 times the national average APY for interest-bearing savings accounts with balances of $500 as reported by Informa Research Services, Inc as of February 1, 2010. Although the information provided by Informa Research Services has been obtained from the various institutions, the accuracy cannot be guaranteed. Rates are subject to change at any time.
2. The rate referenced in this communication is valid as of February 1, 2010 and is subject to change daily without notice.
3. On October 31, 2008, FDIC deposit insurance temporarily increased from $100,000 to $250,000 per depositor though December 31, 2013.
4. Under federal regulation, you may make up to six automatic or preauthorized withdrawals from your savings account per month.
Hmm, only had this to save on fees/FOREX at overseas ATMs ; time to close.
eagle1wi
Member
posted: Feb. 9, 2010 @ 12:56p
This seems to explain the lack of keeping rates competitive lately. I moved 95% of my money out of it a few months back - now for the rest of it to go.
Ok, previously set up auto transfers won't work (those who currently have Discover Online Savings Account please chime in if Discover does not offer this feature) ... other than this it sounds like an APY increase ... though I have to say that I really liked E*TRADE's external account tracking/management setup and will miss it if the change means it's gone
Edit to add: like they say, "it's time to Discover"
dsru said: just got the same email...wonder if checking will get sold soon?
I would guess the answer is yes, based on this:
This follows our plan to focus more exclusively on providing optimal investing solutions to our customers.
I have not received the email notice yet, but I imagine it will come soon. Less than 30 days notice, too.
While the rates have been nothing special for some time now, I think this will be the last straw for me with E*Trade, including my (somewhat significant) brokerage account with them. I was highly disappointed with the way they handled the discontinuance of their in-house index funds last year, they did it right at the market bottom and gave only 30 days notice. With more notice there would have been time for me (and other customers) to move an equivalent amount of cash into another index fund, and be able to realize the capital losses I had incurred on their index fund without it being considered a wash sale.
I already have a good relationship with Fidelity and I'm sure they'll be happy to take my business away from E*Trade.
psychtobe
Senior Member - 2K
posted: Feb. 9, 2010 @ 2:43p
Alcibiades said: Hmm, only had this to save on fees/FOREX at overseas ATMs ; time to close.
that was a huge advantage, one I used liberally. Does Discover do this?
I won't be closing my account because I also have my brokerage there; but if moving money from Discover to ETrade Brokerage isn't instantaneous, then I guess I might look around.
runderwo
Senior Member
posted: Feb. 9, 2010 @ 2:50p
Any other banks with free ACH push and no DD requirement?
runderwo said: Any other banks with free ACH push and no DD requirement?
schwab
tyrone3971
Cranky Member
posted: Feb. 9, 2010 @ 3:06p
psychtobe said: Alcibiades said: Hmm, only had this to save on fees/FOREX at overseas ATMs ; time to close.
that was a huge advantage, one I used liberally. Does Discover do this?
I won't be closing my account because I also have my brokerage there; but if moving money from Discover to ETrade Brokerage isn't instantaneous, then I guess I might look around.
Is this for all accounts or just the low dollar ones. The ability to move >10K instantly between savings, checking, and brokerage was a huge deal.
everything seems to reference savings accounts only
I hope they leave checking alone - I don't want to move all my payees in my BillPayMy email listed my 4 Complete Savings accounts, but no mention of my Checking account. I'm guessing they'll hang on to the checking accounts, unless they sell the entire EtradeBank division (the checking accounts are pretty much all that'll be left).
Shouldn't there have been formal options included to not move an account,personal info,etc to DiscoverBank? ie Opt-out. (close now, or automatically close and issue a check)
And as mentioned, now a transferred customer may not be able to take advantage of a signup bonus for this new accout type if they offer one...
"What's in it for me??"
suidroot
New Member
posted: Feb. 9, 2010 @ 5:35p
I just gave E*trade a call as i have a few accounts with them, the rep told me that they are moving over people who generally are savings only customers with e*trade. People with more then one account like my self should not be moved over.
i have not received one of these notices
suidroot
New Member
posted: Feb. 9, 2010 @ 5:35p
I just gave E*trade a call as i have a few accounts with them, the rep told me that they are moving over people who are savings only customers with e*trade. People with more then one account like my self should not be moved over.
It sounds like they're just cutting the totally unprofitable accounts.
I didn't receive this e-mail, and no one with whom I've personally spoken has either. We all have multiple accounts.
mrvirgo
Happy Member
posted: Feb. 9, 2010 @ 7:31p
The rep with whom I spoke knocked herself out to get me to keep my E*Trade Savings account open (even with a zero balance)and gave me the pitch about how I had nothing to gain by closing my account without giving Discover Bank a chance. Sounds fishy to me. I'll wait to see what Bank Deals guy has to say in his review which he is going to post in a few days. From what I've read on FW, Discover sounds slow and clunky and their rate isn't all that great. AMEX Savings with which I am familir is better; they have a higher rate, and a 1 day ACH in and out with no hold on your funds if you push money into their account from another bank site.
mrvirgo said: The rep with whom I spoke knocked herself out to get me to keep my E*Trade Savings account open (even with a zero balance)and gave me the pitch about how I had nothing to gain by closing my account without giving Discover Bank a chance. That's rather true. If you've been sitting on the Etrade account, what's the harm of sitting on a Discover account instead? Aside from access to their Quicktransfer service, the complete savings account hasnt had much going for it anyways.
boobinson
Dismembered Member
posted: Feb. 9, 2010 @ 8:57p
You would think E*Trade would consider taking down their Complete Savings sign-up page. In the past 12 months they seem to be taking away every incentive for me to stay with them.
I have a Discover acct and recently moved to Capital One. Rate is good but the service is pretty annoying. If you have a lot of cash there, then it will take you MONTHS to get it out because the limits are low. The website is always down for maintainance and is pretty buggy (forget to click the logout button and you can't login for 20 min for example).
ziffy
Broke Member
posted: Feb. 9, 2010 @ 9:50p
Just transferred the remainder of the $$$ out from E*trade. My experience with Discover has not been good. Nice reps, they'll you what you want to her but it never happens. This scumbag running the worst student loan origination operation too. Dealing with the operation folks just like pulling teeth.
I received the notice this afternoon also. I do not have anything else with them.
Thanks everyone, looks like I'm transferring the rest of my money out of my E*Trade account to Capital One.
Disappointing - I like E*Trade's look and feel of their site.
refidnasb
Member
posted: Feb. 9, 2010 @ 10:24p
I need to have Etrade and the free ACH push so that I can DD into a few checking accounts. In addition I hold money in there for quick transfers into my brokerage account for trading. I like this happy marriage. Hopefully they keep the brokerage accounts with savings accounts together. Otherwise....I'm out of Etrade.
Man, I with we could get those great 5.25% savings rates back!
eagle1wi
Member
posted: Feb. 9, 2010 @ 10:33p
refidnasb said:
Man, I with we could get those great 5.25% savings rates back!
I think they thought they would get people to move in their "savings" money with aggressive rates and they would make all kinds of fees from people day trading in "brokerage" as well.
I think they found out that these aren't necessarily the same people <insert forehead slap here>
psychtobe
Senior Member - 2K
posted: Feb. 10, 2010 @ 12:10a
suidroot said: I just gave E*trade a call as i have a few accounts with them, the rep told me that they are moving over people who generally are savings only customers with e*trade. People with more then one account like my self should not be moved over.
i have not received one of these notices
interesting - but weird. What's the marginal cost of maintaining a few bank-only customers once you've built the whole infrastructure for your bank and brokerage customers?
But as you said, I haven't gotten the email yet. I have a Roth, a brokerage account, and a Complete Savings account with them.
psychtobe said: suidroot said: I just gave E*trade a call as i have a few accounts with them, the rep told me that they are moving over people who generally are savings only customers with e*trade. People with more then one account like my self should not be moved over.
i have not received one of these notices
interesting - but weird. What's the marginal cost of maintaining a few bank-only customers once you've built the whole infrastructure for your bank and brokerage customers?
But as you said, I haven't gotten the email yet. I have a Roth, a brokerage account, and a Complete Savings account with them. Likely they make money selling thousands of those accounts. Etrade Bank has been losing millions.
orangecrushv
Member
posted: Feb. 10, 2010 @ 6:27a
balor124 said: The website is always down for maintainance and is pretty buggy (forget to click the logout button and you can't login for 20 min for example).
Website upgrade is coming next week and the preview of the interface looks 100 times better than the old; perhaps it will solve some of the other problems too.
Hope this doesn't affect E*Trade checking accounts (don't want to lose my no-ATM-fees). Sucks to lose the instant transfer b/w savings and checking but I guess I can deal with it.
FYI, I called in, and the rep said that my account would be unaffected since I have investing accounts with them.
Imacyco
Happy Member
posted: Feb. 10, 2010 @ 8:15a
Same boat here. I actually like this... as a shareholder. The banking has been a drain on an otherwise great brokerage business. Getting rid of savings only accounts should reduce the amount of capital tied up in the bank (according to management). Like every other thing related to this company, this will probably screw the shareholders. YAY!
suidroot said: I just gave E*trade a call as i have a few accounts with them, the rep told me that they are moving over people who generally are savings only customers with e*trade. People with more then one account like my self should not be moved over.
i have not received one of these notices
bruzeh
Member
posted: Feb. 10, 2010 @ 11:35a
Discover Bank Online Savings. I opened this act in Dec. and it has been a NIGHTMARE!! From their website and disclosure it looked another good place to park money. But unlike AMEX, ing, capitalone... they falsely represent their product.
- "Account Agreement and Electronic Funds Transfer Disclosure", Section #10, states that $100 to $100K can be transfered via the Internet. -Truth: Internet transfers need to be done via MoneyHQ, a 3rd part corporation, and they restrict transfers to $35,000.
- Discover does not disclose on their website or their agreement that an Act must be set up with MoneyHQ to do the internet transfers. Nor do they disclose that the customer must provide MoneyHQ with their private bank account(s) information to include(username/password)!
Since I could not transfer in more than $35K/mo. via the internet I asked them to close my act and return my funds with interest to date. Here's the response I got via email:
"Because the account has been open for less than 90 days, closing it would incur a $20.00 early closure fee. If you would like to proceed, please send a letter of instruction to us by mail or by fax, and include the account number, your name and signature, your agreement to the early closure fee, and the method you would like us to use to send you the money."
I've spoken with numerous folks, none of them gives a $hit what the disclosure agreement or Website advertise. Ended up filling complaint (#D6D0FF12010) with the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency and also filed with FDIC.
One household account holder got the notice (not much activity in the accounts) and I didnt get a notice (have direct deposit into the account and use as main hub)...neither have investment accounts.
why would someone just have a savings account with etrade? wouldn't it be easier to have a savings account with a local bank? i think it would be more convenient to drive up to a bank. i can understand if you have both a trading account and savings account with etrade...
touxiong said: why would someone just have a savings account with etrade? wouldn't it be easier to have a savings account with a local bank? i think it would be more convenient to drive up to a bank. i can understand if you have both a trading account and savings account with etrade...
LOL. New to FWF, eh? Dude, we're ratechasers around here. E*Trade had good rates at one point in time so lots of people opened accounts with them. And those who don't chase rates want the ability to do hundreds of fast and free ACH transfers per month. E*Trade is a good hub account.
Yeah I failed at one of the $25 opening bonuses a couple years ago for some unknown reason. I withdrew my money and they threatened to close the account (whatever)....then I started getting threatening letters from Etrade/Discover that if I didn't do XYZ they were going to tell the IRS on me or something about backup withholding? Well they just sent me a statement and I have $1.12. Sweet. At 1.34%, in 30 years I'll have $1.67. Victory is mine at last.
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