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Here is a story of a small group of ordinary folk purchasing a small interest in a toxic asset.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124491608

The original bond was worth $2.7M (or at least someone paid that much for that bond at some point), and the recent price was $36K, i.e., the bond traded hands for 1.3 cents on the dollar.

These kind folks bought $1K interest in the bond just to see what happens.

Also, a very illustrative cartoon to go with it.

Good read.

Full disclosure: ripped off calculated risk blog.

P.S. Since tripleB has been quiet around here, I figured someone has to step up to the call of duty.



Posting in a toxic thread.


Here's the first podcast in the story that goes through the process of them actually locating and buying the bond:

link

I didn't see a link to it in the OP's link.


Thanks for the article... but thanks to the bailout all americans got to buy some toxic assets


At about a cent on the dollar, it has the potential for a very good return with just moderately high risk. Anyone know where to buy these again?


Zaos said: At about a cent on the dollar, it has the potential for a very good return with just moderately high risk. Anyone know where to buy these again?
Look for anything Moody's rated AAA from about 2004-2006.


So why does their portion of the bond die? Would that mean the whole bond is kaput?


Scary to see that the percentage of current mortgages continues to go down every month and has not yet stabilized or started to rise.


HVMLT 2005-10 B6
CUSIP 41161PUA9 Issuer: HARBORVIEW MORTGAGE LOAN TRUST

The B6 bond was originally rated A-/A3. It represents a skinny layer (0.6%) from 3.75% to 4.35% of the capital structure. It pays Libor+107 coupon on principal (ETA: as well as principal after all other bonds above it--from 4.35% to 100%--are paid off, which is guaranteed not gonna happen). These folks in the NPR story bought about 1 year's worth of coupon payment. If the bond lasts longer than 1 year they will make out OK.

This issue was a public offered bond. If you look for it you can probably find the prospectus.


Are there any online brokers offering these toxic assets? I remember a few CDS showing up on Zions Direct auction site, but that's it.

It sounds like a fun (to me) gamble.


Zaos said: At about a cent on the dollar, it has the potential for a very good return with just moderately high risk. Anyone know where to buy these again?

That's what I was thinking.

Let's start the Fatwallet Finance Toxic Asset Accumulation Fund LLP.

Sounds better than FART, I mean, TARP.


largeeyes said: So why does their portion of the bond die? Would that mean the whole bond is kaput?

See nycll's post above.

If I interpret that post correctly, the bond represents interest in a CMO (collateralized mortgage obligation) of some sort.

Think of the different seniority interests in a bond as a stack, and think of water rising. Rising water shows increasing defaults. When the watermark covers your position in the seniority structure, you are kaput. Folks higher than you are stillo not kaput.


I've got an idea for what we can purchase with our FW Toxic Asset Fund: Codename47's debt!


Codename47's debt!
Debt? what debt?


codename47 said: Codename47's debt!
Debt? what debt?

Hey, welcome back. We missed ya.

Unless you have been posting for a while, and I


tolamapS said: codename47 said: Codename47's debt!
Debt? what debt?


Hey, welcome back. We missed ya.

Unless you have been posting for a while, and I

that's what you get for believing in CN47....he'll even steal the end of your sentence!

make sure you dont call him asking where it is, otherwise he'll find a way to sue you.




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