I paid over $400 for my first Single Tuner TiVo Series 2, but then got a Series 2 Dual Tuner FREE with a one year contract.
So I'm spoiled.
But actually, since Comcast went all Digital and screwed up my TiVo's something fierce I'm thinking of dropping TiVo altogether. I am so tired of the Infra-Red jerry-rigging - all the silly wires. Plus I just don't have the time to watch much TV anymore.
SalemCat said: But actually, since Comcast went all Digital and screwed up my TiVo's something fierce I'm thinking of dropping TiVo altogether. I am so tired of the Infra-Red jerry-rigging - all the silly wires. The HD boxes eliminate the Comcast set top box (STB); you replace the STB with a M (multi-stream) CableCard. Note that you do lose OnDemand going this route.
Also depending on the Comcast box you have you do not need the IR receivers. The one I have plugs into the serial port in the back. I have both, an HD box and a Series 2.
I have a huge Comcast box, and 3 tiny ones. The tiny ones definitely need the IR kludges.
The huge Comcast box, maybe it does have a Serial Port. I'll have to check - I don't think so, though. I checked these things out pretty carefully back in December.
NoMoneyInMyWallet said: SalemCat said: But actually, since Comcast went all Digital and screwed up my TiVo's something fierce I'm thinking of dropping TiVo altogether. I am so tired of the Infra-Red jerry-rigging - all the silly wires. The HD boxes eliminate the Comcast set top box (STB); you replace the STB with a M (multi-stream) CableCard. Note that you do lose OnDemand going this route.
Yeah, as I understand it I'd have to rent a CableCard for each TiVo.
Just a reminder, if you're looking for this new, Blockbuster B&M had the TiVo HD (20 hr version) for $99 new. I picked one up two weeks ago, and it was perfect since I only needed it for the OTA tuner to go with my rear projection TV that's only HD ready (no tuner), and it allowed me to decomission my series 2 TiVo by transferring the pre-paid plan to this HD TiVo box.
SalemCat said: NoMoneyInMyWallet said: SalemCat said: But actually, since Comcast went all Digital and screwed up my TiVo's something fierce I'm thinking of dropping TiVo altogether. I am so tired of the Infra-Red jerry-rigging - all the silly wires. The HD boxes eliminate the Comcast set top box (STB); you replace the STB with a M (multi-stream) CableCard. Note that you do lose OnDemand going this route.
Yeah, as I understand it I'd have to rent a CableCard for each TiVo. Comcast CableCards are free (or should be), although you probably will have to argue with customer service and direct them to their own website to get the charges off of your bill (I know this from personal experience):
Bottom line, the primary outlet plus each additional outlet is entitled to one CableCard with no additional charges (it is included in the additional outlet fee).
Jamesklaaren
Broke Member
posted: Jul. 27, 2010 @ 4:06a
A quick question: my cable provider includes 38 HD QAM channels without cable card, would I need to get a cable card from them to get the HD channels on this TiVo? My Series 1 TiVo is starting to look pretty bad on my 65" Mits and it would be nice to record in HD. Thanks, Bear
I often see people say they can build a HTPC that can do everything TiVo does for less money. However I've never seen a homebuilt HTPC that takes cablecards and can record encrypted QAM. I've never seen one as easy to use and as stable as a TiVo. Finally, there's no way they can beat these prices. If you can get lifetime service, the TiVo wins hands down.
Jamesklaaren, I'm not sure, but my educated guess is no, you don't need a CC to watch clear QAM. I think the long answer is more complicated than that (something to do with channel mapping and/or guide data), so you should ask the gurus over at http://www.tivocommunity.com/
photodog
New Member
posted: Jul. 27, 2010 @ 6:49a
If you get in the clear QAM you would still need to get the cable cards if you want to use all the TiVo features. The channels in the clear do not match the current line-up provided by your cable provider, and there is no way to "map" the channels to the proper channel number with your line-up. Basically you QAM channel would be 117-2, and through your cable company be 856 with cards or the set box. You could still record shows, manually, but wouldn't get any guide info
HappyGuy
Happy Member
posted: Jul. 27, 2010 @ 8:39a
Toddler said: SalemCat said: NoMoneyInMyWallet said: SalemCat said: But actually, since Comcast went all Digital and screwed up my TiVo's something fierce I'm thinking of dropping TiVo altogether. I am so tired of the Infra-Red jerry-rigging - all the silly wires. The HD boxes eliminate the Comcast set top box (STB); you replace the STB with a M (multi-stream) CableCard. Note that you do lose OnDemand going this route.
Yeah, as I understand it I'd have to rent a CableCard for each TiVo. Comcast CableCards are free (or should be), although you probably will have to argue with customer service and direct them to their own website to get the charges off of your bill (I know this from personal experience):
Bottom line, the primary outlet plus each additional outlet is entitled to one CableCard with no additional charges (it is included in the additional outlet fee).
So Comcast charges $9 for the OUTLET but the card is free. Total BS.
That's the thing - in my household we have (2) Series 2 TiVo's, and I am so tired of hearing my wife complain when the flaky IR Emitter kludge causes her to miss a show.
The TiVo subscriptions are worth the price, and the $99 purchase price for new TiVo's rocks (thanks OP). But tossing Comcast another $9 per "outlet" per month - for a service that should be included for free with their expensive Cable Bill - that angers me.
My son watches Netflix so much I could cut Cable altogether and he'd be happy. And I'd gladly do without Cable to save $100 a month. But my wife and her Hallmark Channel is another matter. Sigh.
My city does not offer FIOS. It is any less of a rip than Comcast ?
I have a TiVo HD. I am on month to month right now because I keep thinking I'll wind up axing Comcrast. If I decide to go for a "Lifetime" sub, does one sub cover my house and all the TiVo's I might ever hook up there, or is it $399 for the first, then another $299 for the second and each additional ?
If I have only one TiVo will the "PLSR" code get me a "Lifetime" sub for $299 or is it only good for a second TiVo ?
(Sure I can contact TiVo, but I was hoping for a straight answer here on FW - TIA)
rashdogg
Member
posted: Jul. 27, 2010 @ 9:37a
the lifetime sub only applies to one box, so you would have to purchase multiple lifetimes.
I have a TiVo HD. I am on month to month right now because I keep thinking I'll wind up axing Comcrast. If I decide to go for a "Lifetime" sub, does one sub cover my house and all the TiVo's I might ever hook up there, or is it $399 for the first, then another $299 for the second and each additional ?
If I have only one TiVo will the "PLSR" code get me a "Lifetime" sub for $299 or is it only good for a second TiVo ?
(Sure I can contact TiVo, but I was hoping for a straight answer here on FW - TIA)
I have a TiVo HD. I am on month to month right now because I keep thinking I'll wind up axing Comcrast. If I decide to go for a "Lifetime" sub, does one sub cover my house and all the TiVo's I might ever hook up there, or is it $399 for the first, then another $299 for the second and each additional ?
No - you have to purchase a lifetime sub for each TiVo.
If I have only one TiVo will the "PLSR" code get me a "Lifetime" sub for $299 or is it only good for a second TiVo ?
vickh said: timmie88 said: it allowed me to decomission my series 2 TiVo by transferring the pre-paid plan to this HD TiVo box. lifetime on series 2 TiVo?
how much was transferring?
I have a series 2 and was just offered lifetime subscription for $199. I'm thinking about doing it because I will break even after just 2 years. Obviously I'm behind on technology. Don't have an HD TV and no immediate plans to get one. If I were to upgrade TiVo I'd probably go w/ Premiere as it sounds like they're phasing out the HD. Does this make sense?
my4mainecoons said: If I were to upgrade TiVo I'd probably go w/ Premiere as it sounds like they're phasing out the HD. Does this make sense? There's not much better about the Premiere, and a few things worse IMO. The new GUI (which can be disabled--what does that tell you?) is a love-hate thing. The remote is supposed to be "fancier" but the button layout is different, and inferior to me. Upgrading the hard drive on the HD is easy to do on your own, but the Premiere is a different animal. You do get a few more codecs for streaming videos from TiVo Desktop, but most of us probably have 360/PS3 or Blu-ray players or something else which steams a lot better than a TiVo, and without making you run a sharing application on your PC. For watching broadcast television, there's no difference at all between the HD and the Premiere, which is what most TiVo owners do 99.9% of the time. For under $200, you can buy the older unit and a 1TB drive and never look back.
HappyGuy said: Toddler said: SalemCat said: NoMoneyInMyWallet said: SalemCat said: But actually, since Comcast went all Digital and screwed up my TiVo's something fierce I'm thinking of dropping TiVo altogether. I am so tired of the Infra-Red jerry-rigging - all the silly wires. The HD boxes eliminate the Comcast set top box (STB); you replace the STB with a M (multi-stream) CableCard. Note that you do lose OnDemand going this route.
Yeah, as I understand it I'd have to rent a CableCard for each TiVo. Comcast CableCards are free (or should be), although you probably will have to argue with customer service and direct them to their own website to get the charges off of your bill (I know this from personal experience):
Bottom line, the primary outlet plus each additional outlet is entitled to one CableCard with no additional charges (it is included in the additional outlet fee).
So Comcast charges $9 for the OUTLET but the card is free. Total BS. Well, those are the terms according to their FAQ, but in my area, Comcast is prohibited from charging outlet fees, so complain to your local city council or the agency which regulates Comcast's franchise agreement in your area.
This is exactly the problem with the Digital Transition - Lies and Confusion.
I remember hearing time and time again that if you were a Cable TV Subscriber you would have nothing to fear from the Digital Transition.
Instead there is confusion and expense $$$ - and near useless TiVo Dual Tuner Series 2 boxes.
(Yeah, I know - the Government lied - so what else is new)
genuineebayauctions
New Member
posted: Jul. 27, 2010 @ 2:12p
Great Deal ! Try calling them instead of placing the order online. I was able to negotiate and get a free wireless N adapter ($90.00) worth for free with $99.00 Refurbished HD TiVo. Best of Luck !
SalemCat said: This is exactly the problem with the Digital Transition - Lies and Confusion.
I remember hearing time and time again that if you were a Cable TV Subscriber you would have nothing to fear from the Digital Transition.
Instead there is confusion and expense $$$ - and near useless TiVo Dual Tuner Series 2 boxes.
(Yeah, I know - the Government lied - so what else is new)
Over the air digital transition (that the government did) and Cable going all digital are two completely different things that are not even related, or the same technology.
SalemCat said: This is exactly the problem with the Digital Transition - Lies and Confusion.
I remember hearing time and time again that if you were a Cable TV Subscriber you would have nothing to fear from the Digital Transition.
Instead there is confusion and expense $$$ - and near useless TiVo Dual Tuner Series 2 boxes.
(Yeah, I know - the Government lied - so what else is new)
I dropped cable for an attic antenna and my TiVo HD records 2 channels simultaneously in perfect HD. With Netflix and internet viewing, there is nothing I am missing except paying an extra $100 a month.
markbyte said: I dropped cable for an attic antenna and my TiVo HD records 2 channels simultaneously in perfect HD. With Netflix and internet viewing, there is nothing I am missing except paying an extra $100 a month. But don't you feel like a douche when all your coworkers are buzzing about last night's Ice Road Truckers while you wait for it to hit the newsgroups?
zenfrog
New Member
posted: Jul. 29, 2010 @ 1:20a
Where do I enter the code PLSR to get $299.00 lifetime service?
zhutou
Shopaholic Member
posted: Jul. 29, 2010 @ 9:53a
zenfrog said: Where do I enter the code PLSR to get $299.00 lifetime service?
rashdogg said: the lifetime sub only applies to one box, so you would have to purchase multiple lifetimes.
This has been debated before, but remember, when you buy a lifetime subscription, it is for the lifetime of the TiVo box itself and not the user. Given that this is a refurbished box with a 1-year warranty, if it dies after 366 days, then you just (effectively) lost $200 compared to the yearly plan which is $99/year for existing subscribers. And don't forget, lightening damage is not covered under your TiVo warranty. What if TiVo goes out of business a year from now? What if you decide to upgrade to the Premier a year from now? If you were to buy the 1-year service plan instead it is easily transferable to another box for any reason. I just don't trust the electronics I buy that much.
markbyte said: This has been debated before, but remember, when you buy a lifetime subscription, it is for the lifetime of the TiVo box itself and not the user. Given that this is a refurbished box with a 1-year warranty, if it dies after 366 days, then you just (effectively) lost $200 compared to the yearly plan which is $99/year for existing subscribers. And don't forget, lightening damage is not covered under your TiVo warranty. What if TiVo goes out of business a year from now? What if you decide to upgrade to the Premier a year from now? If you were to buy the 1-year service plan instead it is easily transferable to another box for any reason. I just don't trust the electronics I buy that much.
What if GoogleTV makes TiVo an irrelevant artifact like the dial phone or the eight-track player, hehehe
k000 said: are there any cheap dvrs that I don't need to buy service plans for ?
You can get a TV Tuner and record network TV to you computer hard drive. But that's only for Network TV. I'm using the pinnacle HDTV on my laptop, HD anywhere..well almost http://www.google.com/products?q=pinnacle+HDTV&aq=f
HTuttle said: markbyte said: This has been debated before, but remember, when you buy a lifetime subscription, it is for the lifetime of the TiVo box itself and not the user. Given that this is a refurbished box with a 1-year warranty, if it dies after 366 days, then you just (effectively) lost $200 compared to the yearly plan which is $99/year for existing subscribers. And don't forget, lightening damage is not covered under your TiVo warranty. What if TiVo goes out of business a year from now? What if you decide to upgrade to the Premier a year from now? If you were to buy the 1-year service plan instead it is easily transferable to another box for any reason. I just don't trust the electronics I buy that much.
What if GoogleTV makes TiVo an irrelevant artifact like the dial phone or the eight-track player, hehehe
By the time they get out of Beta, my TiVo will have more than paid for itself...
HTuttle said: SafetyDance said: By the time they get out of Beta, my TiVo will have more than paid for itself...
Sure, if you bought your lifetime 3 yrs ago.
GoogleTV will be out this fall. But even with GTV in Beta, I don't think I'll miss TiVo much at these prices.
I watched Google's animated video describing Google TV but they never clarified whether it was a way to search for shows or a way to actually view shows. I also watched the long boring YouTube video where they were talking about the launch of Google TV. It was never clarified there either. I wish companies would skip all the long drawn-out hype and simply give the facts in bullets. So instead of spending 10 minutes trying to figure out what Google TV is all about, spend 10 seconds.
Just got off the phone with Comcrap about getting a cablecard. They charge $7.50/mo for the card (and require a $15 service call to install it, they don't let you do it yourself). That kills the deal for me. Sorry, TiVo, you have to go back to Blockuster....
underthecovers said: How do you get a cablecard? Does it cost anything to get one?
Just go to your local Comcast center and ask for the cable card. The first cable card should be free and second one cost you about $1.5. Don't call comcast since all rep. on the phone are idiots...
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