I've never owned a gun. Is this a good weapon to get started with?
86racer
Member
posted: Jul. 30, 2010 @ 11:32p
you need to go to your local range and shoot some guns before you buy one. one person might swear by this pistol but someone else might completely hate it. i personally am not a glock fan. i have a springfield xdm and an xd sc, both in .40. i shot every pistol the range had plus some my friends had. buy the one that fells the best to you and LEARN HOW TO USE IT. take a firearms class. i have my CCW ( concealed carry permit ). and never leave home without it
baydawg
New Member
posted: Jul. 30, 2010 @ 11:36p
I was thinking at first, When the hell did Office Depot start selling guns??!!
86racer said: you need to go to your local range and shoot some guns before you buy one. one person might swear by this pistol but someone else might completely hate it. i personally am not a glock fan. i have a springfield xdm and an xd sc, both in .40. i shot every pistol the range had plus some my friends had. buy the one that fells the best to you and LEARN HOW TO USE IT. take a firearms class. i have my CCW ( concealed carry permit ). and never leave home without it
86racer is right about the springfield, I love the springfield XD 9. Fits My Hand perfectly
I would get a 9mm.......however if money is no object.....and that you can afford as much ammo as you want.......kinda sucks if you get the .45acp but can't afford the ammo to shoot enough...
This looks like a steal. I always wanted a Glock 19 when they first came out. Then I fired a Sig. Never got the Sig, but I'd say it's got a solid, precision feel. If I wasn't in a slight money pinch right now...
Lomic
Thrifty Member
posted: Jul. 31, 2010 @ 1:55a
A subcompact (such as the G33) is probably not a great first pistol. The small body and short barrel length will make it generally less accurate and more difficult to manage - especially with no experience.
Glocks are also Double Action Only, meaning every time you pull the trigger, you are cocking and releasing the firing pin. On single action guns (which tend to be more expensive), the hammer which drives the firing pin will remain cocked after each shot, making all shots beyond the first a lighter and more crisp trigger pull. Generally it's easier to be accurate with this configuration.
On the other hand, if you can get accurate with a subcompact Glock, you'll probably be accurate with anything. Just hope you don't develop bad habits
Ooo! Bud's is right up the road from me. I'll have to go check this out.
It appears all of Glock's OD green pistols are being closed out: Glocks on sale. You have to sign in to their site to see the prices of all but one of them.
arthurkuchuk
New Member
posted: Jul. 31, 2010 @ 7:00a
Hei Lomic, since when Glock is a "Double Action Only" pistol??!?!?!? Glock is a single strike pistol! It means that every time you pull a trigger, it shoots like a single action, including the first shot. Thats why the all the modern pistols (Glocks, XD's, M&P's) so easy to handle. The first shot, thats what counts.
arthurkuchuk said: Hei Lomic, since when Glock is a "Double Action Only" pistol??!?!?!? Glock is a single strike pistol! It means that every time you pull a trigger, it shoots like a single action, including the first shot. Thats why the all the modern pistols (Glocks, XD's, M&P's) so easy to handle. The first shot, thats what counts.
hard to argue with your statement, but if glocks had a hammer then i would agree with you, but since it's striker fired, i can't completely agree. it glock were single action, they have the longest single action trigger pull.
The 27 (.40) is a bit of a handful and hurts my hand after firing it for a bit. The 26 (9mm) does not. I don't know where the 33 fits in the scale in between but be beware of what you're getting into (i.e. shoot one first).
Fatwallet Computer Geeks with a like for guns. LOL This is a good deal as I own 3 Glocks. Glocks are the best for defense period. Many law enforcement use them.
I read many of the comments and can cleary see most are noobs. Go to the gun range. Rent a gun. Shot a gun then determine if you want one.
Lastly, you cannot change the Vcore to have the round shoot faster. You cannot water cool the gun for better perfomance. You cannot RAID 0 the magazines for fast round access and seek times.
Is a 357 or 9mm good for a newby?....Is a overclocked i920 overkill for a web surfer?? Probably yes, but it doesn't mean you can't have fun with one.
I had a SW .40 with full time double action and I hated it. I do not recommend a semi-auto dual action to anyone who is not exactly sure it's what they want. It's hard enough to accurately use a handgun and if it's for home protection, there are much better choices.
lostmutt
Member
posted: Jul. 31, 2010 @ 7:32p
flatbroke said: "Glock 33 = Subcompact .357sig (but with a simple barrel change, it can be a .40sw)"
What about the .357sig magazines and fact the gun's recoil spring is set to handle a .357sig? Warranty?
You can use the .357sig magazines for the .40 they fit fine. Just a new barrel and you have a new gun.
I have a Glock 22 .40 cal that i have a .357 barrel and a 9mm barrel (must use 9mm mags) for and have never had any problems with any. About 1000 rounds total thru mine.
Just search for "Glock conversion barrel". Will find a lot of info.
Warranty? Glock is one of the best as far as warrantys.
Butcherboy said: 86racer said: you need to go to your local range and shoot some guns before you buy one. one person might swear by this pistol but someone else might completely hate it. i personally am not a glock fan. i have a springfield xdm and an xd sc, both in .40. i shot every pistol the range had plus some my friends had. buy the one that fells the best to you and LEARN HOW TO USE IT. take a firearms class. i have my CCW ( concealed carry permit ). and never leave home without it
86racer is right about the springfield, I love the springfield XD 9. Fits My Hand perfectly My wife and I both have XD9's and love them. She has the subcompact, I have the full size (in dark green).
I've always wondered about the interchangeable barrels in Glocks. Can someone commit human target practice in .40 and then change the barrel to 9mm and get away with it? Assuming all other evidence is unattainable and there's nothing left but a victim, bullet, and Glock with a different caliber barrel than the bullet that hit the victim.
too little for the obscenely big handed..I'll stick with my 1911
Indianamiester
Member
posted: Aug. 1, 2010 @ 10:26p
I am in for one.
blackjakjunk
Member
posted: Aug. 1, 2010 @ 11:10p
This is a smoking deal thanks, this is better than the LEO/mil discount I believe as well. To the new shooter asking about whether or not this is a good first weapon I would still say absolutely, go for it. Theres no reason to start with a .22 pistol unless you are a boyscout or a very small framed female. Without getting to technical the .357 sig is a whats called a 'necked down' cartridge, they took a slightly larger 40 caliber round and 'necked' it narrower to accept basically a 9mm bullet.
It is one of the less common of the 'standard' defensive rounds not because of any major defecit or problem, it just simply doesn't stand out enough over the much more common .40 or 9mm in order to justify its existence, which then naturally turns into less demand and slightly elevated prices. The .357 can also therefore very easily be 'downloaded' or made less powerful and be as soft or softer than a typical 9mm which is generally considered the smallest primary defensive caliber. The .357 is actually a fairly attractive round for Law Enforcement because it has fairly good penetration through auto glass with the least amonut of deflection, this is due to the fact that it is a very very fast moving round. Its also a little loud as well. But as you will learn with training, pistols are a terrible compromise, they are not particularly accurate and fairly weak. a pistol is generally what you use to fight your way to your 'gun' (long arm) or in other cases its what you carry because its the only practical choice, as a result recoil etc. is not an issue unless you were teaching a young teenager or smaller female. *The good news however is that none of this matters because the 33 frame is exactly identical to the more common .40 caliber subcompact model 27 , which I and half the world owns and carries. the same is true for the magazines. All you would need to do is walk into a gun store and tell them you would like to convert your .357 barrel to a .40, they may make you a trade, but if not you can just buy a .40 barrel online and always have the ability to shoot .357 whenver you want later on.
The other nice thing about glocks and the reason they are so popular and well known, is that they are both safe and extremely simple, simple to operate, simple to maintain and simple to carry. This is why I feel they make a great first gun, it is also why virtually every major LE agency in the country uses them.
I say go for it.
blackjakjunk
Member
posted: Aug. 1, 2010 @ 11:29p
in the shooting world Glocks are technically considered DAO pistols, this is for a couple reasons. Even though they are obviously not similar to a classic DA due to the fact that they are striker fired, they do in fact take the striker from whats essentially a half cock back to a full cock and then strike the primer all during the single trigger pull. This is why Glock invented the term 'safe acti'. to the shooter they feel much like a single action pull (albeit not a great one) with what can be dialed down to only a few pounds of trigger pull compared to the heavy classic long DA pull that is classic in a double action. That being said however, it is also true that the gun is in fact completely safe while in that intermediate stage between shots, it does require the shooter to initially rack the slide to start the process, this then obviously eliminates the double strike capability of a classic design where a shooter is able to restrike a round after a ftf. This (and the lack of a manual safety (the glock has 3 true safeties already, was the main reason why they were not able to be considered during the ARMY small Arms testing to find a replacement for the 1911 (which eventually went to the M9 and M11 a la beretta 92 and Sig 228.
I personally cant stand the glock just due to the ridiculously effed up grip angle on the thing. But they are obvioulsy excellent weapons and tremendously well designed.
And to the person who asked about night sites and mags. This is strictly a guess, but I know that with the LE/Mil disocout that was a pain to get pushed through they added night sights and three mags instead of two. I highly highly doubt a deal this good would do the same. but who knows.
spitfiresuz said: Ooo! Bud's is right up the road from me. I'll have to go check this out.
It appears all of Glock's OD green pistols are being closed out: Glocks on sale. You have to sign in to their site to see the prices of all but one of them.
FWIW, it looks like only 2 of the models are under $400; the G33 for $399, and the G36 (in both OD and Black) for $379. Most of the others are $494, and the G30 (10mm) is $537. I'm a 9mm fan myself, but would like to pick-up a 10mm one of these days, but for $399 shipped I ordered a G33 anyways...
Ishapore
New Member
posted: Aug. 2, 2010 @ 9:42a
So much misinformation here. Glocks are neither single or double action. They are "safe action" which is something in between. Like a single action there is not restrike capability. The striker is also under compression but like a double action, pulling the trigger compresses it further increasing the chances of a successful primer strike.
Springs are the same for 357 Sig or 40. Breech face is the same. Mag followers are different but nobody has reported any problems using them interchangeably. All you need to do is swap barrels.
Picked mine up at the FFL and I really like it. I also have a XD 9. The Springfield is still my favorite although the 33 has a smoother trigger pull. Great deal!! Thanks OP!!
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