Just a head up for anyone looking to buy a Windows 7 upgrade--with the family pack you get three licenses for slightly more than the cost of one. Staples had good deals the last time around since you could use their $25 off coupons.
This will put the hurt on a lot of eBay resllers too, never a bad thing.
Good........let the fun begin... However, i don't agree with you regarding hurting eBay sellers since like last time they will just hoard these and sell them at a much higher profit once the deal is over.
aerotive said: This will put the hurt on a lot of eBay resllers too, never a bad thing.this is an ignorant statement. if you don't like eBay resellers, then i'd say just don't buy from them.
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flap said: I need a dependent with a .edu account
I'm sure the costs of feeding a college student alone would far outweigh the benefits of any student deals you get...
The .edu account will let you purchase a 32 bit one (Limit One) and a 64 Bit one (Limit One). You have to make two separate purchases and each one will have a different key. I believe that is what the previous poster was saying.
morecowbell said: aerotive said: This will put the hurt on a lot of eBay resllers too, never a bad thing.this is an ignorant statement. if you don't like eBay resellers, then i'd say just don't buy from them.
Agreed, the OP's statement regarding eBay sellers is highly ignorant and illogical. Then again, some folks aren't looking for anything logical. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
uh, he said the new competition is "never a bad thing". Which means it is a GOOD thing (for eBay buyers). Got it? '
There's no inference he doesn't like sellers.
But, he does like competition. And that's the American way!
STEALfromCAGgive2FW said: morecowbell said: aerotive said: This will put the hurt on a lot of eBay resllers too, never a bad thing.this is an ignorant statement. if you don't like eBay resellers, then i'd say just don't buy from them.
Agreed, the OP's statement regarding eBay sellers is highly ignorant and illogical. Then again, some folks aren't looking for anything logical. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
JSquare293 said: Pay $150 for 3 licenses of W7 or get TechNet Standard for $168.63 HERE!Completely different. OP is for the home edition and comes with 3 end-user licenses. Technet comes with developer-only licenses.
I really don't like seeing EVERY Windows license deal, like the amazing one in the OP, inundated with Technet recommendations. If you're a developer, you probably already know about MSDN, MSDNAA, and Technet. If you're a home user, those licenses do not apply, and it's a violation of the license to use them for non-development purposes.
Again - home users with 2 or 3 computers in your home that you're looking to upgrade, you're not going to beat this deal. Developers, go with Technet on your development machines.my4mainecoons said: Could I use this to upgrade from XPP to W7 or does it only upgrade from Vista?It will upgrade XP or Vista.
briankh said: uh, he said the new competition is "never a bad thing". Which means it is a GOOD thing (for eBay buyers). Got it? '
There's no inference he doesn't like sellers.
But, he does like competition. And that's the American way!
STEALfromCAGgive2FW said: morecowbell said: aerotive said: This will put the hurt on a lot of eBay resllers too, never a bad thing.this is an ignorant statement. if you don't like eBay resellers, then i'd say just don't buy from them.
Agreed, the OP's statement regarding eBay sellers is highly ignorant and illogical. Then again, some folks aren't looking for anything logical. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn."uh" he said that putting the hurt on resellers is never a bad thing (see quoted part - you quoted it too). so basically someone's livelihood doesn't matter if he thinks that he's getting "gouged."
personally, if i see something on eBay that i find to be "overpriced" then i don't buy it. nobody makes me buy anything there. and if i see something that i think is a good price i buy it. and if the seller makes a large profit i really don't care because i got it for what i find to be a good price.
the statement was ignorant because the end result of what he said goes against the idea of a market society. he's assuming that resellers "gouge" customers when they could be just trying to make a fair living.
cmrivera said: The .edu account will let you purchase a 32 bit one (Limit One) and a 64 Bit one (Limit One). You have to make two separate purchases and each one will have a different key. I believe that is what the previous poster was saying.
+1. Worked like a champ for me- 1 32bit and 1 64bit. 2 Different license keys that are independent of each other.
bklyndrvr said: squinky86 said: It will upgrade XP or Vista. Win 7 will only upgrade from certain versions of Vista and not any version of XP It may not upgrade the existing installation but you can use XP as an existing version of Windows so Win7 will allow you to install the upgrade version.
billrubin said: bklyndrvr said: squinky86 said: It will upgrade XP or Vista. Win 7 will only upgrade from certain versions of Vista and not any version of XP It may not upgrade the existing installation but you can use XP as an existing version of Windows so Win7 will allow you to install the upgrade version.Thanks for the clarification - this is what I meant
PhDeez said: cmrivera said: The .edu account will let you purchase a 32 bit one (Limit One) and a 64 Bit one (Limit One). You have to make two separate purchases and each one will have a different key. I believe that is what the previous poster was saying. +1. Worked like a champ for me- 1 32bit and 1 64bit. 2 Different license keys that are independent of each other. At one of the Microsoft seminars, the MS rep told me that the license key is the same for either a 32-bit or 64-bit install. The only difference is the install media.
Should've been more specific with my eBay comment, "Windows 7 Family Pack eBay resellers" instead of resellers in general. I'm not against markets/eBay/resellers at all, in fact I buy and sell on eBay myself. But the resale market for Windows 7 is highly distorted and inefficient. Last year a few sellers bought up as many of these packs as possible in an attempt to corner the market and drive up prices. It's bad enough that MS has a near monopoly on desktop OSes and can charge high prices; when you add on top of that resellers who try and create an additional cartel, prices become ridiculous.
Also next time I'm going to follow my own damn advice and not editorialize in the OP.
billrubin said: bklyndrvr said: squinky86 said: It will upgrade XP or Vista. Win 7 will only upgrade from certain versions of Vista and not any version of XP It may not upgrade the existing installation but you can use XP as an existing version of Windows so Win7 will allow you to install the upgrade version. You can actually perform a clean install on an empty hard drive using the Windows 7 Upgrade disc and in the end have a fully functional copy of Windows 7 on your computer. This would violate the terms of the license agreement if that computer didn't already have a legal copy of XP or Vista, but it is functionally possible.
cmrivera said: The .edu account will let you purchase a 32 bit one (Limit One) and a 64 Bit one (Limit One). You have to make two separate purchases and each one will have a different key. I believe that is what the previous poster was saying.
Thank you for the better wording. That is what I was trying to say. I myself bought 1 of each.
bklyndrvr said: squinky86 said: It will upgrade XP or Vista.
Win 7 will only upgrade from certain versions of Vista and not any version of XP
"...and not any version of XP"
Hmmm.... sounds like you're just making sh*tty facts up on the spot.
Upgrading to Windows 7: frequently asked questions
I'm running Windows XP on my PC. Can I buy the upgrade version of Windows 7?
Yes, you can buy the upgrade version of Windows 7, but you'll need to perform a custom installation. This means that you should back up all of your files to an external location and gather the installation discs or setup files for programs that you want to use with Windows 7. For detailed instructions, see Upgrading from Windows XP to Windows 7.
We went over and over this "upgrade" situation when Windows 7 first came out. The confusion is "upgrade" can either be a adjective, such as the "upgrade edition of Windows 7," or "upgrade" can be a verb, as in "upgrade my current install of Windows."
Just remember that upgrading your current install of Vista might leave you with a more buggy system. Most people recommend doing a clean-install, or a pseudo clean install, where Windows 7 copies all your old files and puts them in a directly called Windows.old. Even if you don't currently have a version of Windows on your computer, you can still use the upgrade edition to do a clean install using the double install method.
Just remember you need at least 1GB of memory to install Windows 7. If you have exactly 1GB and share some with onboard video memory, you won't be able to install Windows 7.
Just remember if you want to do a upgrade install over your current version of Vista, you can do it as long as you are not switching to 64bit from a 32bit install. With any version of XP, you will be doing a pseudo clean install. And if you want to switch to 64bit, you will be doing a pseudo clean install. I highly recommend you start fresh with a clean install.
SimMike said: We went over and over this "upgrade" situation when Windows 7 first came out. The confusion is "upgrade" can either be a adjective, such as the "upgrade edition of Windows 7," or "upgrade" can be a verb, as in "upgrade my current install of Windows."
Just remember that upgrading your current install of Vista might leave you with a more buggy system. Most people recommend doing a clean-install, or a pseudo clean install, where Windows 7 copies all your old files and puts them in a directly called Windows.old. Even if you don't currently have a version of Windows on your computer, you can still use the upgrade edition to do a clean install using the double install method.
Just remember you need at least 1GB of memory to install Windows 7. If you have exactly 1GB and share some with onboard video memory, you won't be able to install Windows 7.
Just remember if you want to do a upgrade install over your current version of Vista, you can do it as long as you are not switching to 64bit from a 32bit install. With any version of XP, you will be doing a pseudo clean install. And if you want to switch to 64bit, you will be doing a pseudo clean install. I highly recommend you start fresh with a clean install.
I don't know what any of that means. I'm an I.T. professional and work for a company supporting over 250 users. Even I found that difficult to follow. Look people - don't make this overly complicated. If you're running Windows XP/Vista you can upgrade to 7. Follow the links that I provided above and read the F.A.Q. for the details. As far as hardware requirements - you will need atleast 1 GB of system RAM and it doesn't matter if some of that is shared with video. How can you tell if you how much RAM is installed in your computer? Locate "My Computer" icon on your desktop and right click. In the context menu, choose 'Properties'.
Never take advice from anyone on Fatwallet regarding tech advice - always research it on your own using whatever search engine you prefer. There's a lot of false information & inaccuracies on the internet - due diligence is a good thing.
JSquare293 said: Pay $150 for 3 licenses of W7 or get TechNet Standard for $168.63 HERE!
lol...I signed up for that 2 months or so ago and like many after waiting over a month got tired of waiting as they kept saying another 4-6 weeks till MS releases more even though at the time purchased they showed it as being in stock.
Chewy said: SimMike said: We went over and over this "upgrade" situation when Windows 7 first came out. The confusion is "upgrade" can either be a adjective, such as the "upgrade edition of Windows 7," or "upgrade" can be a verb, as in "upgrade my current install of Windows."
Just remember that upgrading your current install of Vista might leave you with a more buggy system. Most people recommend doing a clean-install, or a pseudo clean install, where Windows 7 copies all your old files and puts them in a directly called Windows.old. Even if you don't currently have a version of Windows on your computer, you can still use the upgrade edition to do a clean install using the double install method.
Just remember you need at least 1GB of memory to install Windows 7. If you have exactly 1GB and share some with onboard video memory, you won't be able to install Windows 7.
Just remember if you want to do a upgrade install over your current version of Vista, you can do it as long as you are not switching to 64bit from a 32bit install. With any version of XP, you will be doing a pseudo clean install. And if you want to switch to 64bit, you will be doing a pseudo clean install. I highly recommend you start fresh with a clean install.
I don't know what any of that means. I'm an I.T. professional and work for a company supporting over 250 users. Even I found that difficult to follow. Look people - don't make this overly complicated. If you're running Windows XP/Vista you can upgrade to 7. Follow the links that I provided above and read the F.A.Q. for the details. As far as hardware requirements - you will need atleast 1 GB of system RAM and it doesn't matter if some of that is shared with video. How can you tell if you how much RAM is installed in your computer? Locate "My Computer" icon on your desktop and right click. In the context menu, choose 'Properties'.
Never take advice from anyone on Fatwallet regarding tech advice - always research it on your own using whatever search engine you prefer. There's a lot of false information & inaccuracies on the internet - due diligence is a good thing. And what was "false" in my post? You do know the difference in grammar between an adjective and a verb don't you? You say "if you're running Windows XP/Vista you can upgrade to 7." What you don't say is that with all versions of XP, you won't be upgrading your current install of XP, you will be installing a fresh copy of Windows 7 onto the computer without deleting your old files. So you will need to reinstall all your old programs. This is different than a legitimate upgrade of Vista to Windows 7 in which all your old programs and settings work without needing to reinstall them. These are two distinctly different things.
SimMike said: And what was "false" in my post? You do know the difference in grammar between an adjective and a verb don't you? You say "if you're running Windows XP/Vista you can upgrade to 7." What you don't say is that with all versions of XP, you won't be upgrading your current install of XP, you will be installing a fresh copy of Windows 7 onto the computer without deleting your old files. So you will need to reinstall all your old programs. This is different than a legitimate upgrade of Vista to Windows 7 in which all your old programs and settings work without needing to reinstall them. These are two distinctly different things.
There are two methods for upgrading to Windows 7. You can either do a clean installation or a in-place install. 1) Clean installation is where you're wiping the hard drive clean (called formatting) and installing windows from scratch. 2) The latter method does not involve formatting. But rather installing the newer version of Windows on top of the current installation. (Microsoft refers to this method as in-place upgrade, techies sometimes refer to it as "dirty installation".
Commonly, the 2nd method does not erase any personal data/files and most (i say MOST) programs & applications) should continue to work after the upgrade. There may be a few applications where you will need to re-install.
Based on your most recent post, I think the distinction you are trying to make is that you can use method 1 or 2 when going from Vista to 7. However when going from XP to 7, only option available is method 1. That I can agree with.
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