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My kids' P4 1.6GHz barely runs Webkinz. Flash games require so much CPU nowadays. So I got them an i5-2300 quad core. I should be set for quite some time now. But this system should be good for a couple more years.

poisonz said:   I just double checked and it was half of very thing compare to OP's spec for $50 cheaper, but this comes with media.
http://www.buy.com/prod/hp-d530-p4-3-2ghz-512mb-40gb-cdrw-deskto...
they both seem good for the price, but what kind of media?

A single-core cpu is painfully slow once you've used any dual-core.
With dual-core cpu's you don't get the frozen machine effect when something cpu intensive is fired up, or flash starts, or you open several tabs in your broswer.

You Have a Office Tower? How do you rate?

But seriously...

Anyone have this?

Can CPU be upgraded?

very nice, will do perfect in an office environment.

poisonz said:   Very nice office system with room to upgrade. Even without the upgrade, this is a turn key solution for few ppls who wants to build cheap PC at reasonable price and doesnt want to pay for OS.
They have the slim desktop version with P4- 3.2GHZ with almost same spec for $99 from Buy.com.


An athlon 64 X2 will demolish a pentium 4, even with the difference in clock speed. We're not talking big numbers here- a modern sempron will eat them both for breakfast. but in terms of raw processing power, expect the athlon 64 to be twice as fast in computational tasks.

Would be nice to mention in your header that these are used off-line lease computers.

They say refurb but does a store not far from me. If a lease computer fires up, they wipe coffee stains, finger
prints off and use an old standard called "Carnu" to make it sell better. He see's nothing wrong in his ethics
but complaints about his products abound.

If price is the issue scrounge up a bit more and buy one of the low end Lenovos or a closeout on Lenovo laptops
which happens frequently.

Think of refurb electronics and reliable as $250 car at a Maasive Clearence sale. When I was working on a Masters
the university credit union arranged for a few hundred cars to be brought in for such a sale. I was there early
and spotted a three year old Volvo at a heart stopping low price and was sitting in it before anyone else. I
took it for a test drive and front bumper fell off.....headed to dealership and just as I pulled in the whole
grill assembly fell off. Then it made a clunk and died. Service Manage laughed , as did many others, crawled
under the car and said "this 242DL has been in a very bad front ender. I told him it was from a sale. He said
take it right back. Well it wouldn't start. A mechanic looked at engine and said it was not the proper one
and he would bet money I had a broken crankshaft. I called a tow truck to take it back to the super sale.

The air got pretty blue. The Supervisor of the auction told an employeed the car was marked not to be sold.
Fired him on the spot. I walked away with the tow bill paid and $200 cash in my pocket and never went to a
similar sale.

I see more and more refurb stuff on reputable on line store ads and it really rattles my cage.

No red for poster, probably simple mistake.

retiredlawman said:   Would be nice to mention in your header that these are used off-line lease computers.

They say refurb but does a store not far from me. If a lease computer fires up, they wipe coffee stains, finger
prints off and use an old standard called "Carnu" to make it sell better. He see's nothing wrong in his ethics
but complaints about his products abound.

If price is the issue scrounge up a bit more and buy one of the low end Lenovos or a closeout on Lenovo laptops
which happens frequently.

Think of refurb electronics and reliable as $250 car at a Maasive Clearence sale. When I was working on a Masters
the university credit union arranged for a few hundred cars to be brought in for such a sale. I was there early
and spotted a three year old Volvo at a heart stopping low price and was sitting in it before anyone else. I
took it for a test drive and front bumper fell off.....headed to dealership and just as I pulled in the whole
grill assembly fell off. Then it made a clunk and died. Service Manage laughed , as did many others, crawled
under the car and said "this 242DL has been in a very bad front ender. I told him it was from a sale. He said
take it right back. Well it wouldn't start. A mechanic looked at engine and said it was not the proper one
and he would bet money I had a broken crankshaft. I called a tow truck to take it back to the super sale.

The air got pretty blue. The Supervisor of the auction told an employeed the car was marked not to be sold.
Fired him on the spot. I walked away with the tow bill paid and $200 cash in my pocket and never went to a
similar sale.

I see more and more refurb stuff on reputable on line store ads and it really rattles my cage.

No red for poster, probably simple mistake.




No but red for you since I can't understand what your saying or how it has anything to do with this deal. With refurb's it all comes down to risk vs. cost. If you have a need for this bare bone units and since it's only a $150 gamble (compared to thousands if your comparing it to used cars)..this computer might be worth it the risk..

I found a similar HP machine to this at the curb. It works quite well.

Green for OP

retiredlawman said:   The air got pretty blue. The Supervisor of the auction told an employeed the car was marked not to be sold.
Fired him on the spot. I walked away with the tow bill paid and $200 cash in my pocket and never went to a
similar sale.


Huh?

thanks....gonna use this as a POS server for a client. This is easier than building one myself. Price is right, too.

MasterRebater said:   retiredlawman said:   The air got pretty blue. The Supervisor of the auction told an employeed the car was marked not to be sold.
Fired him on the spot. I walked away with the tow bill paid and $200 cash in my pocket and never went to a
similar sale.


Huh?


Think Grandpa Simpson.

dpuopolo said:   I found a similar HP machine to this at the curb. It works quite well.

you found a dual core with xp pro thrown away? wow, lucky dog! This is a nice machine, plenty of slots/expansion ability compared to so many low-end, cheap small form factor units.

Great entertainment!!

GeorgeT said:   MasterRebater said:   retiredlawman said:   The air got pretty blue. The Supervisor of the auction told an employeed the car was marked not to be sold.
Fired him on the spot. I walked away with the tow bill paid and $200 cash in my pocket and never went to a
similar sale.


Huh?


Think Grandpa Simpson.



One trick is to tell stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for m'shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt. Which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. Gimme five bees for a quarter, you'd say. Now where was I... oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion tied to my belt, which was the style at the time. You couldn't get white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...

And a lunchbox was called Swedish suitcase!

It was an HP PCM-7000 with XP Media Edition. It even came with its 15 inch LCD, Keyboard and mouse, wireless remote control and CD for Office 2003. It has built in G wireless (the antenna was never even unpacked). The CPU heatsink was full of crud-which was keeping the computer from staying on. I had also thought that the 250 gB hard drive was bad-but all that was wrong was corruption-and there's a recovery partition right on the drive that I ran to get everything up and running again. I'm typing this on the PC in fact..

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Home.jsp?lang=e...

How does that HP compare to this off-lease Dell, which Dell Outlet sells regularly on eBay? Those are typically going for about $135 shipped.

bd said:   How does that HP compare to this off-lease Dell, which Dell Outlet sells regularly on eBay? Those are typically going for about $135 shipped.
That's an auction, who knows how much the final price will end up.

Dell has been putting a lot of them there, and they are typically ending up at about $125 plus $10 shipping (give or take $10 or $15).

Can anyone tell me how many watts this uses? I'm wondering how much it would cost in electricity to leave it on 24/7...

Can anyone tell me how many watts this uses? I'm wondering how much it would cost in electricity to leave it on 24/7...

Crazy, I tried to sell my X2 4000+ desktop a few weeks ago with a 1TB HDD and 4GB RAM on craigslist for $150 and got no bites at all.

That said, if you're like me and still partial to XP I'm sure this will run it perfectly fine.

Reminds me of Acer T180 deal which was less than this and I am typing on that system couple of years back.

What does Lensmart have to do with GearXs?
(In quick summary)

load the grandpa simpson dialogue on it and i'm sold!

no media with this..does it at least create a set of re-install disks? Or can we get them cheap from HP? or can we get a plain xp pro install media somewhere cheap? I have xp non-pro disks already, but I want to make sure I can re-install xp on this baby...

Spend not even $200 more and get an i3-2100 system. You'll be much happier with the speed and you won't be replacing it in 2 years.

overclock said:   My kids' P4 1.6GHz barely runs Webkinz. Flash games require so much CPU nowadays. So I got them an i5-2300 quad core. I should be set for quite some time now. But this system should be good for a couple more years.

Aren't modern versions of Flash hardware accelerated? Why not add any ~$25 DX9.0 or better graphics card to that available PCI express slot...that is, if Flash games are a necessity (I haven't had opportunity to evaluate hardware acceleration for flash games on an older platform...I don't play games on my media pc, my server, or my laptop). For web surfing/word/excel etc, tho, this is more than enough horsepower. Until very recently, I was running something similar to this as a media PC, with a very cheap upgrade to the graphics card. For $150, you could basically part the thing out and get your money back if you're not happy with it.

Think Grandpa Simpson.


One trick is to tell stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for m'shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt. Which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. Gimme five bees for a quarter, you'd say. Now where was I... oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion tied to my belt, which was the style at the time. You couldn't get white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...

LOL .. you truly are a "senior" member!

Cheap does not equal to good deal...

captainkirk said:   no media with this..does it at least create a set of re-install disks? Or can we get them cheap from HP? or can we get a plain xp pro install media somewhere cheap? I have xp non-pro disks already, but I want to make sure I can re-install xp on this baby...

you can get restore disks from HP for $10 OR download a copy of the OEM version of windows from bit tiorrent or something and use the key on it's COA

overclock said:   My kids' P4 1.6GHz barely runs Webkinz. Flash games require so much CPU nowadays. So I got them an i5-2300 quad core. I should be set for quite some time now. But this system should be good for a couple more years.

You should figure out why that is... my kids are using a P4-2Ghz with XP which does fine.

Perhaps you have a virus, or maybe it just hasn't been maintained. Try reloading the operating system, turning off indexing, and you should find that machine OK.

However, personally, I would not buy the PC in this post... I would invest a few extra dollars and get an i3.

Regards
SteveG

sgogo said:   overclock said:   My kids' P4 1.6GHz barely runs Webkinz. Flash games require so much CPU nowadays. So I got them an i5-2300 quad core. I should be set for quite some time now. But this system should be good for a couple more years.

You should figure out why that is... my kids are using a P4-2Ghz with XP which does fine.

Perhaps you have a virus, or maybe it just hasn't been maintained. Try reloading the operating system, turning off indexing, and you should find that machine OK.

However, personally, I would not buy the PC in this post... I would invest a few extra dollars and get an i3.

Regards
SteveG



Got a link for a comparable i3 for a few extra dollars?

captainkirk said:   sgogo said:   overclock said:   My kids' P4 1.6GHz barely runs Webkinz...

You should figure out why that is... my kids are using a P4-2Ghz with XP which does fine.

... I would invest a few extra dollars and get an i3.

Regards
SteveG



Got a link for a comparable i3 for a few extra dollars?


No, but I would suggest looking at the refurb section of Dell.com or Lenovo.com. They come and go on there from $300 to $500. Sometimes even less with coupons.

Also, set up a deal alert here at fatwallet... they show up on a regular basis but you have to watch for them. If an i3 is too expensive, a higher level dual core (T7500 or something) is also OK

Good Luck!
SteveG

Ps - Here are a few deals... First one is still active:

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1099533/

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1097116/

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1083758/

http://www.fatwallet.com/best-desktop-deals/dell-vostro-230-slim-tower-desktop-18-5-lcd-monitor-bundle/

oh, I see the problem..you think 2X to 3X is a "few extra dollars". I have no problem finding faster processor desktops for 2X the cost, but I don't think most people consider 2X (or more) to be "a few extra dollars".

I will use this to type my manifesto... btw if you are getting this then you know the world didn't end and i just racked 47K in credit card debt over the weekend and probally going to prison

FREE SHIPPING in for 1 paid the 19.99 for 1 year warranty hopefully AMEX will dbl, hope to use as a DVR backup added $750 HD, too lazy to put one in all in all seems like a solid deal for a great OS, which alone is like $90 basically the price of a bad call in a no limit game...

thanks OP

captainkirk said:   oh, I see the problem..you think 2X to 3X is a "few extra dollars". I have no problem finding faster processor desktops for 2X the cost, but I don't think most people consider 2X (or more) to be "a few extra dollars".

2X to 3X is not relavent at this price range. When it costs $55 to fill my gas tank once, I think $150-$250 for something that should last 2-4 years is a "few extra dollars".

I stand by my reccommendation, since the first cost of the computer is only part of the investment... after you buy it you need to install (and pay for) many programs... this ends up costing more than the computer in the long run. Also the items I reccommended are not off lease, so I think they have a better warranty and are more likely to last, and have better specs.

SteveG

sgogo said:   captainkirk said:   oh, I see the problem..you think 2X to 3X is a "few extra dollars". I have no problem finding faster processor desktops for 2X the cost, but I don't think most people consider 2X (or more) to be "a few extra dollars".

2X to 3X is not relavent at this price range. When it costs $55 to fill my gas tank once, I think $150-$250 for something that should last 2-4 years is a "few extra dollars".

I stand by my reccommendation, since the first cost of the computer is only part of the investment... after you buy it you need to install (and pay for) many programs... this ends up costing more than the computer in the long run. Also the items I reccommended are not off lease, so I think they have a better warranty and are more likely to last, and have better specs.

SteveG



Whether an i3 at 300 to 500 is better than this at $150 isn't the question, since there are a lot of considerations, like what software you run (old software - an XP is actually better, runs more of them easily than a faster I3 with win7 or vista!). I'm just pointing out that, to MOST people, something that is 2X or 3X is NOT a "few extra dollars". And you must have a lot of money if YOU think that $150 to $350 is only a FEW extra dollars. And thanks for bringing up gas - since gas is soaking up more of our income, in fact, $150 is a LOT MORE than it might have been before. And hey, since it costs over $100,000 to buy a house, compared to THAT, a couple thousand is just "a few extra dollars".

LOL at someone at fallwallet (where we pinch every penny, let along hundreds of dollars!) calling $150 - $350 a "few extra dollars". You must really be a noob or rich or something. Maybe you should start up "thin wallet" where people can pay "a few extra dollars" all the time.



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