I do like the fact that you can add trauma plates, but why dies it say that to get level 3protection you need the ceramic plate (sold separately)
Product Features very comfortable Compliance with NIJ Standard-0101.06 2 concealed pockets to carry ceramic plates one in the front and one in the back The lightest vest for the armor coverage you get Ceramic Plate will increase the Level of protection to III or IV (sold separately)
Soybomb
Member
posted: Sep. 17, 2011 @ 3:14p
I don't even see anything about the construction. I wouldn't buy anything buy any soft body armor made from anything but 100% kevlar.
allawd
Member
posted: Sep. 17, 2011 @ 3:32p
lemonhead said: I do like the fact that you can add trauma plates, but why dies it say that to get level 3protection you need the ceramic plate (sold separately)
Product Features very comfortable Compliance with NIJ Standard-0101.06 2 concealed pockets to carry ceramic plates one in the front and one in the back The lightest vest for the armor coverage you get Ceramic Plate will increase the Level of protection to III or IV (sold separately)
Because III is higher level of protection than IIIA.
IIIA covers most standard pistol calibers and is tested against 9mm and 44 magnum.
III is protection against non-armor piercing rifle, tested using 308
IV is armor penetrating rifle rounds with some a steel core. The test ammunition is the "M2" steel core 30-06.
I found a scanned NIJ letter saying the armor complied with 2005 Interim standards, but the vest is not listed on the NIJ approved equipment list. I believe this means it would not be covered by any NIJ grant to provide LE body armor. http://www.justnet.org/pages/BallisticCPL.aspx
Soybomb said: I don't even see anything about the construction. I wouldn't buy anything buy any soft body armor made from anything but 100% kevlar.
None of the modern vests I've seen are 100% kevlar because it won't pass the NIJ compliance testing. There has to be some stiffer materials layered in on the back especially to prevent excessive deformation of the vest.
BargainMaster2011
New Member
posted: Sep. 17, 2011 @ 3:49p
lol If i lived in a ghetto neighborhood i would totally buy this!
cr3s
Handsome Member
posted: Sep. 17, 2011 @ 4:15p
BargainMaster2011 said: lol If i lived in a ghetto neighborhood i would totally buy this!
Well, better stock up. With the way things are going, the US will become 3rd world ghetto by 2020.
emmagata
Senior Member - 2K
posted: Sep. 17, 2011 @ 4:53p
I have a .375 HH magnum. You'll need 2 of these vests.
pizzman890
Happy Member
posted: Sep. 17, 2011 @ 8:01p
i don't see any 4xl?
jnheinz
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Sep. 17, 2011 @ 8:03p
Say hello to Mr. Desert Eagle.....
peas
Thrifty Member
posted: Sep. 17, 2011 @ 10:16p
jnheinz said: Say hello to Mr. Desert Eagle..... Better hope that first shot is on target. After the recoil it's gonna take a while to aim accurately. Someone using 9mm hollow points would be able to get off many more accurate shots.
Soybomb
Member
posted: Sep. 18, 2011 @ 8:33a
allawd said: lemonhead said: I do like the fact that you can add trauma plates, but why dies it say that to get level 3protection you need the ceramic plate (sold separately)
Product Features very comfortable Compliance with NIJ Standard-0101.06 2 concealed pockets to carry ceramic plates one in the front and one in the back The lightest vest for the armor coverage you get Ceramic Plate will increase the Level of protection to III or IV (sold separately)
Because III is higher level of protection than IIIA.
IIIA covers most standard pistol calibers and is tested against 9mm and 44 magnum.
III is protection against non-armor piercing rifle, tested using 308
IV is armor penetrating rifle rounds with some a steel core. The test ammunition is the "M2" steel core 30-06.
I found a scanned NIJ letter saying the armor complied with 2005 Interim standards, but the vest is not listed on the NIJ approved equipment list. I believe this means it would not be covered by any NIJ grant to provide LE body armor. http://www.justnet.org/pages/BallisticCPL.aspx
Soybomb said: I don't even see anything about the construction. I wouldn't buy anything buy any soft body armor made from anything but 100% kevlar.
None of the modern vests I've seen are 100% kevlar because it won't pass the NIJ compliance testing. There has to be some stiffer materials layered in on the back especially to prevent excessive deformation of the vest. Sure there are, the reason other material is popular is a question of comfort, not performance. Anyone with a need for body armor should familiarize themselves with the information here http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19912
tldr; NIJ armor standards suck, fbi armor stanards are much better.
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