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SADS White lights cause cataracts over 5 years time. I had cataracts at 35 years old,from using the white light box. Fortunantly 2 years ago they came out with blue light technology,that lowers the risks of cataracts.Dr. Rock told me to stop using the white light box and use a uv filtered blue box. I have a cyst in my pituitary, so to be well crass, you do notknow anything about it.Take your BS elsewhere. 1980's research Googles Scholar http://scholar.google.com/scholar?as_q=SADS+Light+Therapy+Catara... My doctor is the one whom writes the books on which psychiatrists are taught Dr. Nicholas Rock from NIH, he has been practicing 40 years. And what type of doctor are you? Obviously not an MD. Maybe a homeopath,or a skeptic,but not an MD.
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irishangel160 said: White lights cause cataracts over 5 years time.
I had cataracts at 35 years old,from using the white light box. Fortunantly 2 years ago they came out with blue light technology,that lowers the risks of cataracts.
No...normal white light usage do not cause cataracts in 5 years.
In your case of cataracts I find it extremely difficult to believe and other factors were involved into why you got cataracts....since the actual medical data for a direct link does not exist.
These gimmick devices have been around in one form or another for many decades. Unless you live/work in an actual cave...normal daytime sunlight (even through windows) has the same effect.
The "belief" these will make you happier..is why they work for you.
The well documented studies in European medical circles have shown some improvement using this therapy, this is using well supported scientifically significant studies that have been validated by agencies in five countries in the EU. They are not 100 percent effective, however nothing is. The belief system for any given therapy is taken into account in all of the tests that are published. Quacks dispense medications that have little scientific chance of being effective daily. The studies with these lights and the effect on jetlag and insomnia are underway, so again nothing is 100 percent. Be educated, open minded and be a self advocate in regards to ANY therapy
respdoc said: irishangel160 said: White lights cause cataracts over 5 years time.
I had cataracts at 35 years old,from using the white light box. Fortunantly 2 years ago they came out with blue light technology,that lowers the risks of cataracts.[/
No...normal white light usage do not cause cataracts in 5 years.
In your case of cataracts I find it extremely difficult to believe and other factors were involved in why you got cataracts....since the actual medical data for a direct link does not exist.
These gimmick devices have been around in one form or another for many decades. Unless you live/work in an actual cave...normal daytime sunlight (even through windows) has the same effect.
The "belief" these will make you happier..is why they work for you.
respdoc said: Boxster said: Be educated, open minded and be a self advocate in regards to ANY therapy
Thank you for helping me prove my point. The Placebo effect can be a powerful tool.
Placebo effect or not, they have been clinically proven to work. You can't double-blind test a light, so that's the best you're going to get, and I don't get why you'd want to mess with that. I have a couple friends with SADS and they all find that lights help them. That's all that matters.
klocwerk said: respdoc said: Boxster said: Be educated, open minded and be a self advocate in regards to ANY therapy
Thank you for helping me prove my point. The Placebo effect can be a powerful tool.
Placebo effect or not, they have been clinically proven to work. You can't double-blind test a light, so that's the best you're going to get, and I don't get why you'd want to mess with that. I have a couple friends with SADS and they all find that lights help them. That's all that matters.
Where are non-biased "studies" from accredited medical sources that you speak of ?
You are free to spend your money on whatever you like...and if this light or pictures of tiny puppies does the trick...I'm happy for you.
The problem exists when you try to equate this light with either curing or having a direct therapeutic effect on a medical condition.
Sorry but that boring concept of proving something through the scientific method does not take into account "well..a couple of friends said so.. That's all that matters"
I know people who buy sports cars in the States or Japan where the speed limit is 65mph, with controls to keep the driver from overdriving the car ! Turning off the computers have become all but impossible even on a racetrack. They often consider themselves better than average drivers and have had little or no training driving at the limit except their drivers license. I have pharmacuetical reps that call on us trying to get us to perscribe overpriced brand-name drugs that sell for 90 percent less in other countries spend thousands of dollars taking the physicians I consult for to a race track for a day and get instruction for the cars they can afford but donot know how to control at speed
I don't see much rationality in the dispensing of drugs, much like those who can not use 500 HP vehicles properly but they have been sold they will be better at something so thats what they sell or buy
The obsene amount of money the Tobacco companies have thrown at emerging nations is a great indicator of that. You gotta love non scientificly valid longitudinal study that claimed Pot smoking for 20 years will not do damage to ones respiratory system. Hmmm Internet 1 Health providers 0
Speaking of valid actually you can do a double blind, using lights of different EM frequencies, intensity and you can even make the light penetration so minimal it would replicate a placebo.
The light therapy is well accepted in Europe and amongst the medical communities in many countries, yet nothing is the end all cure all. There was a resident who tried to improve his sex life by using a combination of two errection enhancement drugs that did not co-exsist and after nearly having a heart attack, and a near permenant errection, he then checked the database for drug interactions
It was hilarious
I have seen good results for frequent world travelers using the "blue light" but its not a scientific test
How many doctors can you see for $100 in America?
respdoc said: klocwerk said: respdoc said: Boxster said: Be educated, open minded and be a self advocate in regards to ANY therapy
Thank you for helping me prove my point. The Placebo effect can be a powerful tool.
Placebo effect or not, they have been clinically proven to work. You can't double-blind test a light, so that's the best you're going to get, and I don't get why you'd want to mess with that. I have a couple friends with SADS and they all find that lights help them. That's all that matters.
Where are non-biased "studies" from accredited medical sources that you speak of ?
You are free to spend your money on whatever you like...and if this light or pictures of tiny puppies does the trick...I'm happy for you.
The problem exists when you try to equate this light with either curing or having a direct therapeutic effect on a medical condition.
Sorry but that boring concept of proving something through the scientific method does not take into account "well..a couple of friends said so.. That's all that matters"
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