mrlasveas said: Because they don't want to make Honda dealers angry in other states. If people find out Ohio is Honda's clearance outlet, people will drive to Ohio and not support the local dealers in other states. Thats not good business.
I guss every one knows now....
bargainhunter3
Senior Member
posted: Apr. 30, 2012 @ 10:25p
This deal has been going on all month according to the dealership. It was in the local papers and I'm disappointed I didn't see it earlier.
I ended up getting the LX for 2400 down w/ 114 /month payment (tax included).
The reason why they have it so low is because they met their marks in sales. Instead of the dealer keeping the incentives, he passed on the savings. This is according the salesman at this dealership. He told me they had over 50 SE at the beginning of the month and no one was coming in until the last week. This past weekend they blew up. It was entertaining to hear the salesman talk about his phone calls today. He thinks he talked at least one person in every state.
FWIW it would've came out to about 130/month with 2400 on the SE.
froboy272
Addicted Member
posted: Apr. 30, 2012 @ 11:31p
having the residual will do nothing but get you a ballpark. you also need the money factor and the lease cash incentive amount. Then you will need to know the invoice amount and the holdback amount as well.
ezwinner701
Senior Member
posted: May. 1, 2012 @ 3:20a
any luck in the bay area?
bippie
Senior Member - 2K
posted: May. 1, 2012 @ 6:00a
lexcurat said: Great wheels. End of model now. Really a big car, not mid-size anymore. If you can score this price, I'd say go for it, and I am philosophically against leasing. But Texas kills the deal by requiring the first lessor to pay the entire sales tax on the car (not just the lease price).
Same in Illinois plus we have to pay sales tax again if we purchase the car at the end of the lease. Guess most states have some way of screwing....er, taxing us.
mrkk
Handsome Member
posted: May. 1, 2012 @ 10:03a
bippie said: lexcurat said: Great wheels. End of model now. Really a big car, not mid-size anymore. If you can score this price, I'd say go for it, and I am philosophically against leasing. But Texas kills the deal by requiring the first lessor to pay the entire sales tax on the car (not just the lease price).
Same in Illinois plus we have to pay sales tax again if we purchase the car at the end of the lease. Guess most states have some way of screwing....er, taxing us.
I have never leased, but i believe that you wont pay tax 2nd time if you decide to purchase the same car
theblenny said: thetobster said: I called them today and they said the sale ended yesterday. Anyone have thoughts as to how I can still get it?
Warm up the flux capacitor?
I believe that is an optional extra on the SE models.
maydepot
Senior Member
posted: May. 1, 2012 @ 1:34p
Leases are stupid considering the 2013 Accord will be completely redesigned and reengineered!
2012 is still based on 2008 technology with 5 speed automatic when everyone else has 6!!!!!!!
hal2814
Member
posted: May. 1, 2012 @ 1:50p
maydepot said: Leases are stupid considering the 2013 Accord will be completely redesigned and reengineered!
2012 is still based on 2008 technology with 5 speed automatic when everyone else has 6!!!!!!!
So the 2013 will be a complete redesign that makes the 2012 look primitive (and hurt its resale value in the process)? If anything, that helps the argument to lease a 2012 vs buying one. Might as well let the leasing company get stuck with the severely depreciated asset instead of getting stuck with it yourself. Then at the end of your lease term, you can just walk away from the 2012 and get a 2015 now that all of the impending bugs from the 2013 redesign are worked out.
maydepot
Senior Member
posted: May. 1, 2012 @ 1:54p
timx said: Butcherboy is a great poster, and quite frankly puts a nice disclaimer in about not making this a lease vs buy thread..... Just going to throw in a thought here..... for those of you that are underwater on your house and might be looking at a bankruptcy, a lease on a car is a far better option than eventually owning a car (outright) that would be an asset that could be taken away or held against you in bankruptcy court...
I don't know bout that. He seems to cruise SD all the time stealing their deals.
Also if you file bankruptcy while leasing or financing a vehicle, you can choose to continue making payments or surrender the vehicle with any obligation wiped out. Doesn't matter either way.
You can also keep your paid-for-car if it meets certain age & value limit.
So leasing doesn't give you any advantages in a bankruptcy!
maydepot
Senior Member
posted: May. 1, 2012 @ 2:00p
hal2814 said: maydepot said: Leases are stupid considering the 2013 Accord will be completely redesigned and reengineered!
2012 is still based on 2008 technology with 5 speed automatic when everyone else has 6!!!!!!!
So the 2013 will be a complete redesign that makes the 2012 look primitive (and hurt its resale value in the process)? If anything, that helps the argument to lease a 2012 vs buying one. Might as well let the leasing company get stuck with the severely depreciated asset instead of getting stuck with it yourself. Then at the end of your lease term, you can just walk away from the 2012 and get a 2015 now that all of the impending bugs from the 2013 redesign are worked out.
Cars are not purses. 2013 isn't better because it looks better. It will have more power, better fuel efficiency, better insulation, better comfort, better technology, etc.
It would be like leasing a computer running on Intel Pentium III for 3 years. 2012 Accord hasn't changed much at all since the current generation was introduced in 2007. You will be stuck with old out-dated technology for 3 years however you look at it.
macosx
Senior Member - 1K
posted: May. 1, 2012 @ 2:14p
maydepot said: Cars are not purses. 2013 isn't better because it looks better. It will have more power, better fuel efficiency, better insulation, better comfort, better technology, etc.
It would be like leasing a computer running on Intel Pentium III for 3 years. 2012 Accord hasn't changed much at all since the current generation was introduced in 2007. You will be stuck with old out-dated technology for 3 years however you look at it.
No, that would be like leasing a 1999 Honda Accord if you went by years. Computer technology is evolving faster, so you could say it's like buying a Sandy Bridge computer today when Ivy Bridge is the latest and greatest. And yes, Sandy Bridge is dated, but arguably a better value, just like the outgoing year Accords. And even if you wanted to go by time to 2008 era processors, Core 2 Duo E8400 or Core 2 Quad Q8400, are quite adequate for many needs today. And unlike computer technology that's evolving on the fast lane, road technology hasn't evolved as much. Sorry for the bad mixed analogies propagated here.
Oh, and given recent Civic woes, it's not certain that you'll get all those benefits, and better reliability and at a small increase in cost. It's almost certain prices will go up, and it's possible it's going to be a modest step with the new models.
New features in the 2013 Accord which are NOT available in the 2012 Accord...
* New Earth Dreams 2.4-liter, 16-valve DOHC i-VTEC four-cylinder engine featuring direct-injection (DI) * New CVT transmission or 6 speed transmission * Increased Horsepower * Higher Fuel Economy * Lane Departure Warning (LDW)technology * Forward Collision Warning (FCW) technology * Honda-exclusive LaneWatch™ blind-spot display * Rearview back-up camera and an Expanded View Driver's Mirror * Bluetooth®3 HandsFreeLink® phone interface * a full-color intelligent Multi-Information Display (i-MID) and an SMS text messaging function * Pandora® Internet Radio interface4 * and many more!
There are all confirmed features from Honda directly.
Not to mention the styling looks much much sleaker than the frumpty look of the out-going 2012.
The Civic comparison is non-sequitur.
I personally wouldn't pay anything for old outdated technology since the new technology would pay itself with the savings at the fuel pumps alone. Not to mention maybe even save your life with all the safety technology advances.
You get what you paid for. If you don't care about the latest technology..this was a great deal. If you want the latest model, you have to pay a premium. It's all matter of preference. But the bottom line is that 2012 and 2013 models are going to take you from point A to point B in about the same amount of time with same Honda reliability. I personally would have taken this deal if it was available in my area.
UkeDoggie
Senior Member
posted: May. 1, 2012 @ 7:06p
Butcherboy said: fbobama said: you will be sorry!!! I have a 2002 Honda Accord almost 200,000 miles on it In 10 years 2 sets of tires 2 brake jobs 1 starter New windshield wipers blades ever year About 20 oil change (etc.)
Yo Butcherboy, forget the car part.
Instead, please tell us what tires to buy. Seriously.
And yes, you do post lots of good deals, and thanks!
UkeDoggie said: Butcherboy said: fbobama said: you will be sorry!!! I have a 2002 Honda Accord almost 200,000 miles on it In 10 years 2 sets of tires 2 brake jobs 1 starter New windshield wipers blades ever year About 20 oil change (etc.)
Yo Butcherboy, forget the car part.
Instead, please tell us what tires to buy. Seriously.
And yes, you do post lots of good deals, and thanks!
I always buy my tires at Costco when there on sale $70 To $80 Off per set. And I always buy Michelin tires. Take care of your tires, I have them checked about every 3 weeks when I am at costco. My Honda Pilot also has Michelin tires there 3 years old and look new. I just had a set of Michelin tires put on my 08 toyota tacoma.
Solobear
Senior Member - 1K
posted: May. 1, 2012 @ 8:51p
The only car I'd consider leasing is a Crown Vic. Everything else pales in comparison.
aedgington
Thrifty Member
posted: May. 1, 2012 @ 9:23p
maydepot said: ...since the new technology would pay itself with the savings at the fuel pumps alone.
Getting an extra 2mpg might save you $200/yr (assuming 12,000 miles per year @ $5/g), so if the price goes up $1000, it'll take five years for your statement to be true...
...of course, that's assuming a low voltage sensor that all that new tech is loaded with doesn't go out and cost you a couple of hundred. The problem with all that new tech is that the cost of repairs skyrocket.
Usually you can get pretty amazing deals on outmoded models that are being cleared out, at and below dealer cost versus paying the premium of having the new shiny. I'm an inventory purchaser for several franchise stores, and see this happen all the time. Best bang for the buck is year end closeout on a body style change year.
Anyway, -amazing- deal. Considering the scheduled rate of depreciation on the car is higher than the lease payment on this, wish I could have jumped on it. One of the few times I wished I didn't live in Texas
seanyang
Member
posted: May. 1, 2012 @ 10:51p
Never leased a car, but alwasy wondering how much hidden fees (dealer fees + taxes) that will be added to the final cost because most deals just look too good to be true.
TellyTubby
Tired Member
posted: May. 1, 2012 @ 11:01p
Cabbages: $3.99 a dozen.
Delerious
Ancient Member
posted: May. 2, 2012 @ 8:37a
There is nothing wrong with the Civic and I find that Consumer Reports review to be highly subjective. I bought one last month after a lot of research and it's an excellent car. Look at the facts before making your decision, excellent mpg, rock solid mechanically, amazing resale value, and inexpensive to insure.
ck90211
Senior Member
posted: May. 2, 2012 @ 10:26a
I too looked at the redesigned Civic when they first came out and they were rough around the edges (jerky or confused transmissions, interior plastic not looking or feeling right), which is not all that uncommon with first year models regardless of brands. So I ended up leasing an Altima for $175+tax a month, $500 down including first month's' 24 month lease (in SoCal). These OH Honda deals are simply amazing., and I do believe they are legit deals to rid of surplus inventories or keep factories running or flood OH streets with Honda's.
arktc
Nerdy Member
posted: May. 2, 2012 @ 1:18p
maydepot said: New features in the 2013 Accord which are NOT available in the 2012 Accord...
* New Earth Dreams 2.4-liter, 16-valve DOHC i-VTEC four-cylinder engine featuring direct-injection (DI) * New CVT transmission or 6 speed transmission * Increased Horsepower * Higher Fuel Economy * Lane Departure Warning (LDW)technology * Forward Collision Warning (FCW) technology * Honda-exclusive LaneWatch™ blind-spot display * Rearview back-up camera and an Expanded View Driver's Mirror * Bluetooth®3 HandsFreeLink® phone interface * a full-color intelligent Multi-Information Display (i-MID) and an SMS text messaging function * Pandora® Internet Radio interface4 * and many more!
There are all confirmed features from Honda directly.
Not to mention the styling looks much much sleaker than the frumpty look of the out-going 2012.
The Civic comparison is non-sequitur.
I personally wouldn't pay anything for old outdated technology since the new technology would pay itself with the savings at the fuel pumps alone. Not to mention maybe even save your life with all the safety technology advances.
The safety advances you listed are actually quite overrated. All of them are to compensate for people specifically being careless! People usually turn off Lane Departure Warning systems after 5 mins because the beeping is so annoying. Forward Collision Warning is fine, but it's not as good as the systems that some other companies have had that actually do the braking for you, and this won't do much for a prudent driver. Blind spot indicator is nice, but won't really do much for a prudent driver. A rear backup camera on a passenger car isn't as helpful as on a much bigger van or SUV with worse visibility. Also, FCW and LDW are options, not standard equipment, not sure about LaneWatch.
The fuel pump savings are not likely to be sufficient to offset the increased cost, as someone already mentioned. As I've mentioned on other threads, generally speaking, people often overweight fuel costs when considering the overall cost of a vehicle.
That said, I personally probably wouldn't buy any car at this point that didn't have Bluetooth or that I couldn't integrate Bluetooth into quite easily (e.g. no kludgy aftermarket install). It's just too convenient after having it for so many years. I half-understand why GM didn't want to have Bluetooth in their cars until 2009 (OnStar competitive), but don't understand what took Honda so long for their bread-and-butter car. The MY2008 redesign should have had it available.
arktc
Nerdy Member
posted: May. 2, 2012 @ 1:26p
Butcherboy said: UkeDoggie said: Butcherboy said: fbobama said: you will be sorry!!! I have a 2002 Honda Accord almost 200,000 miles on it In 10 years 2 sets of tires 2 brake jobs 1 starter New windshield wipers blades ever year About 20 oil change (etc.)
Yo Butcherboy, forget the car part.
Instead, please tell us what tires to buy. Seriously.
And yes, you do post lots of good deals, and thanks!
I always buy my tires at Costco when there on sale $70 To $80 Off per set. And I always buy Michelin tires. Take care of your tires, I have them checked about every 3 weeks when I am at costco. My Honda Pilot also has Michelin tires there 3 years old and look new. I just had a set of Michelin tires put on my 08 toyota tacoma.
I also use Michelins, and while I don't usually get 100,000 miles out of them, I find that they provided better grip for longer and last a lot longer than most other brands relative to the same type of tire. I've tried cheaper brands before and have always regretted it in terms of safety (even had a spinout once on a relatively new tire of a major competitor's tire), cost, and longevity. I've generally found that even if you pay $20 more per tire for the Michelins, it'll save you money in the long term.
Of course, if you always drive it like you stole it, you won't get good tire life with any tire. I always laugh when someone on Tire Rack writes a review that they bought X tires for their AMG Mercedes, and they only lasted 8-10K miles. Umm, yeah, it's because you do burnouts all the time.
bulletban
Senior Member
posted: May. 2, 2012 @ 3:20p
im leasing a 2011 Acura RDX, base model(only things it lacks from fully loaded is the Navi and bose audio), for $2888 out the door, paying $316 + tax / month, 36 months, 10K/yr miles. not sure about the fees some people are talking about here, casue they all adds up to the final amount of money you need to pay to be out the door.
It's $10 more per month but $119/mo for leather/etc on the Accord SE is still a very respectable deal IMO.
NukeMedDude
Nuke M'Dude
posted: May. 15, 2012 @ 12:52p
I really wish I could get this deal to fly on the west coast. If I tried to bring that ad in to match it here in Seattle, they'd call the police on me for robbery in progress.
argentum
Senior Member
posted: May. 15, 2012 @ 1:08p
That might be true, but perfect for people like me who does not like their life to be bound with bleeding-edge beta technology. For a car, as long as it drives smooth and powerful, gives good gas/mileage, do not drag me into garage too often, I am happy.
mrgamers said: good deal ops. Not to bash your thread..but
i feel that Honda has fallen behind in technology a bit. For example, most of the Honda competitors offer 6 speed automatic, Honda Accord 2012 still offers only 5 speed automatic. They are about 1 generation behind tech wise.It got to the point where Honda Ceo had to respond to the criticism that Honda is no longer at the front of technology as it once was.
It's $10 more per month but $119/mo for leather/etc on the Accord SE is still a very respectable deal IMO.
I live in the Dayton area, has anyone got the above deal this month or the LX for $109?
If so, some details, like do they make the 1st payment?
txelcheepo
Member
posted: May. 18, 2012 @ 12:00p
You have to really watch those guys at David McDavid too. They will tell you that they will sell you the car for $2,000 under invoice. They show you the true invoice price and it matches the invoice prices listed on the web. Then after spending 2 hours there, you get into the finance office and they try to tell you that the "real invoice" also includes their $2,500 pin striping, mud flaps and other add-ons that kill the deal. At that point most people are so exhausted that they just do it, I decided to walk and the sales manager chased me out into the parking lot.
JessieMax
Loyal Member
posted: May. 19, 2012 @ 3:19p
I emailed many honda dealers in central Florida area with the ad link, and only one responded, and "misstated" the model as the base and said he would check with his supervisor. I emailed back, correcting his "error" and haven't heard back.
Doubt I could get this in Florida.
Here's a link (besides edmunds...which I'm guessing all FWers know of) that might help others in their car hunt: http://www.realcartips.com/browse/
hyennah
Member
posted: Jun. 23, 2012 @ 11:56a
I checked with a local dealer in atlanta with this offer and he is offering Accord SE for 145$ + tax with 2500$ down(includes first payment,dealer fee ,title).What do you all think?
akillies
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posted: Jun. 26, 2012 @ 7:48a
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