http://grabagun.com/dpms-panther-sportical-556x45-16.html?___SID... , I saw this and then realized I can buy the exact same gun at WalMart and save on shipping as well as FFL Transfer fee, a better deal at WalMart I think, So I goes and gets one, great gun for about $618 OTD including taxes, Way to go Wallyworld,puts a hurtin on the net for a change,wooooohooooo
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buster2
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 9, 2012 @ 7:59p
Only 1 left at grabagun, better hurry before the zombie reformation comes back bigger and better next week,LOL Otherwise pop into wallyworld and grab one and 20 rnds of Tula for $$4.97 per box,stock up its comin Comes with 2 30rd clips btw
How do we check which Wally world sell guns? Thanks in advance.
Stas1976
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 9, 2012 @ 11:48p
buying guns=wasting money. It has nothing to do with having a "fat wallet"
lottathought
Broke Member
posted: Jun. 9, 2012 @ 11:57p
Stas1976 said: buying guns=wasting money. It has nothing to do with having a "fat wallet"
Seriously? Most of the things here are wants..not needs.
The idea is to get what you want at a great price. Some people want guns. So why on earth should people not post the deals on guns and ammo that they find?
dzer0
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 10, 2012 @ 1:10a
Stas1976 said: buying guns=wasting money. It has nothing to do with having a "fat wallet"
Maybe some people hunt? And then save on dinner? =)
Karnivore
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 10, 2012 @ 6:20a
Stas1976 said: buying guns=wasting money. It has nothing to do with having a "fat wallet" Guns are a good financial investment believe it or not.
OnedeeTentee
Member
posted: Jun. 10, 2012 @ 8:05a
I've shot this gun and it shoots fine.
buster2
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 10, 2012 @ 8:09a
heartvb said: How do we check which Wally world sell guns? Thanks in advance.
Call around or simply go to your local store and if not in stock order one.
buster2
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 10, 2012 @ 8:10a
Opinions regarding guns = Fat head small wallet LOL
These are decent rifles. They are accurate and reliable. The price is great, the lowest I have seen on a quality AR Pattern in probably ten years. Of course if you aren't familiar with shooting these rifles, please keep in mind that at this price no optics are included, and this style of flat top doesn't include any iron sites, so you are going to have to spend a little more for optics or iron sites to aim it. Don't skimp on the optic, this rifle is capable of great accuracy but not if you are using a sight that isn't.
Trickracen said: buster2 said: http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=6879 , good price on cheap ammo for this gun Also good if you wanna shorten the life of your rifle, steel casing is junk.
This an an internet myth. I've shot several cases of steel in the past few classes. The mild steel cases have produced no appreciable wear to the extractor or hard chrome chamber. Steel-cased ammo -- especially bought by the case online -- can allow more training, which is ultimately going to lead to much greater proficiency with the weapon system than leaving it in the safe and shooting a box of 20 brass-cased rounds once in a while.
Darith
Member
posted: Jun. 12, 2012 @ 9:48a
daggett said: Trickracen said: buster2 said: http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=6879 , good price on cheap ammo for this gun Also good if you wanna shorten the life of your rifle, steel casing is junk.
This an an internet myth. I've shot several cases of steel in the past few classes. The mild steel cases have produced no appreciable wear to the extractor or hard chrome chamber. Steel-cased ammo -- especially bought by the case online -- can allow more training, which is ultimately going to lead to much greater proficiency with the weapon system than leaving it in the safe and shooting a box of 20 brass-cased rounds once in a while.
+1
As long as your barrel is chrome lined, steel-cased ammo is just fine, you just need clean it more often. As a test, I hit 62 gr russian 223 at 300 yards with ease. I primary prefer brass too, but I like to spoil myself.
I almost picked this DPMS up until I saw a Ruger SR556 in person. Then I realized I preferred the mil-sec AR15 setups with gas impingement piston systems.
DontTreadOnMe
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 12, 2012 @ 1:55p
BlurryEyed said: You can get a milspec AR-15 for not much more than $600. I'd by milspec over this. My $0.02
+1 You can piece a lower and upper with forward assist that would be as good or better quality for just over this price. I built my last AR with PSA upper and lower, DPMS parts kit, with an FN barell, and MOE stock for $640.
I have shot a sportical and it runs fine FYI.
DontTreadOnMe
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 12, 2012 @ 1:58p
Trickracen said: buster2 said: http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=6879 , good price on cheap ammo for this gun Also good if you wanna shorten the life of your rifle, steel casing is junk.
I run steel cased ammo through my AR's and my XCR and they rine fine. To be exact the questionable thing about running Steel cased ammo is not the case, it is the bi-metal projectile that "may cause problems". I have not seen any issues with it. Steel cases don't expand the way that brass does, so you may also dirty up the action a little quicker, but that just requires a little more cleaning and lube.
DontTreadOnMe
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 12, 2012 @ 2:06p
buster2 said: Where?
Several manufactuers have sales a few times a year. I would say your best bet would be Palmetto State Armory (PSA). They make quality (budget) stuff. If you are not affraid to build your own lower you can save some cash and it is not that hard to do with just normal tools. I learned how and did mine using this great tutorial:
I did mine without a magazine vice block (even though they are very handy). The upper is not that much harder, but can more easily be messed up so I would recommend a complete upper for a novice.
Jim5
New Member
posted: Jun. 12, 2012 @ 4:13p
I have a Daniel Defense M4. I called DD about the Herters steel case ammo that is sold at Cabelas. They said do not shoot it. They had three guns there for repair with the cases stuck in the barrel. They could not knock them out with a steel rod. They were going to replace the barrel and notify the user that further use would void the lifetime warranty. They said also do not use Tula. There are a number of stories on the internet of various problems this ammo causes in ar15s. American Eagle is a little more expensive but not to bad.
buster2
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 12, 2012 @ 6:10p
Classic Arms has the A.E.tracer ammo available for $13 a box if ya need something to light up the night with , http://www.classicfirearms.com/fed-223-tracer. I just got done today firing 300 rds of Tula thru mine , not a single ftf or any ejection problems. Might be that those are folks who are building their AR's instead of buying one from a reputable manufacturer or simply failed to properly clean and lube their rifles before shooting, something I see and hear about often.
daggett
Member
posted: Jun. 13, 2012 @ 1:20a
buster2 said: Classic Arms has the A.E.tracer ammo available for $13 a box if ya need something to light up the night with , http://www.classicfirearms.com/fed-223-tracer. I just got done today firing 300 rds of Tula thru mine , not a single ftf or any ejection problems. Might be that those are folks who are building their AR's instead of buying one from a reputable manufacturer or simply failed to properly clean and lube their rifles before shooting, something I see and hear about often.
The hobbyist AR brands many casual shooters would cite as "reputable" often do not have chrome-lined chambers, mil-spec extractors, mil-spec bolt carriers (more mass), or true 5.56mm chambers. Almost everyone I know that does builds uses better barrels than you'd find on a hobbyist brand.
DontTreadOnMe
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 13, 2012 @ 10:07a
Jim5 said: I have a Daniel Defense M4. I called DD about the Herters steel case ammo that is sold at Cabelas. They said do not shoot it. They had three guns there for repair with the cases stuck in the barrel. They could not knock them out with a steel rod. They were going to replace the barrel and notify the user that further use would void the lifetime warranty. They said also do not use Tula. There are a number of stories on the internet of various problems this ammo causes in ar15s. American Eagle is a little more expensive but not to bad.
It is possible to get bad ammo, but I would say it is more likely that the chamber on their rifle was out of spec and too tight or not perfectly round.
I am not saying it can't happen, but I am also saying that you go ahead and spend .05-.10 per round more. I can buy a new barrel (if it get ruined) after 3-4 range sessions with the money I saved on ammo.
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