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phenguy
New Member
posted: Jun. 22, 2012 @ 9:08p
its a very interesting item
lordoffire
Senior Member - 4K
posted: Jun. 22, 2012 @ 11:45p
it's a netbook, not a notebook
Dynastar454
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 22, 2012 @ 11:49p
I have an older, slower 101z, about year or so old, that I picked up from the Dell Outlet for about this price. It's nothing spectacular but it's a solid little sub-laptop that runs Ubuntu and has been serving as the family computer for some time now.
ahallfatwallett
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 22, 2012 @ 11:54p
For comparison purposes, today at Costco I saw a relatively new Acer 11.6" netbook for $349 USD, with a Celeron dual core CPU:
The 1.4GHZ Celeron CPU is a 2nd generation (Sandy Bridge) CPU, not the 1st generation i3-330UM in this Dell. So despite the "Celeron" label I'd expect better performance than the Dell, especially with graphics and slightly higher clock frequency.
The Acer also has a 500GB hard drive and 4GB of RAM, but it has only a 4 cell battery rated by the manufacturer for 4.2 hours of life (so, figure 3 hours). I'm not sure if you can get a longer life battery for the Acer; I was able to buy one for my old AO751h.
Of course, the Acer costs more, but it's newer technology; maybe we'll soon see it on sale too.
lordoffire
Senior Member - 4K
posted: Jun. 23, 2012 @ 12:04a
ahallfatwallett said: The 1.4GHZ Celeron CPU is a 2nd generation (Sandy Bridge) CPU, not the 1st generation i3-330UM in this Dell. So despite the "Celeron" label I'd expect better performance than the Dell, especially with graphics and slightly higher clock frequency.
a celeron vs. and i3?
mkr
Handsome Member
posted: Jun. 23, 2012 @ 12:21a
I will prefer Dell one for following reasons: 1. Dell has better service than Acer; 2. i3-330UM has lager Cache, 2 more threads, faster front side bus. Not sure about graphic, but sandy bridge celeron graphic is not as good as of i cpus' 3. Price difference is not small: $60 plus tax. For $70 more, I can sell 250GB hard drive and get a 90GB SSD and additional 4GB ram and then get a really decent laptop.
ahallfatwallett
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 23, 2012 @ 12:41a
A Celeron is two cores with one thread each.
An i3 is two cores with two threads each - but each thread only improves performance by about 20%, at best, and that depends on the code you are running and what the operating system is doing.
And again, the Celeron is a Sandy Bridge. The graphics core runs at 350MHZ, and the memory controller can handle 1066MHZ and 1333MHZ DDR3 RAM.
The i3 graphics core (which is off chip but in the same package) runs at 166MHZ, and the memory controller can handle up to 800MHZ DDR3 RAM.
I stand by my belief that the Celeron would see a slight performance benefit because it is a Sandy Bridge, running at a 200MHZ faster clock rate with a faster memory controller, plus graphics would be even faster given how much faster the graphics core runs (and is integrated).
As far as Dell vs. Acer: I agree, Dell support is probably better in my experience. But if you buy the Acer at Costco with an AMEX card, you get a three year warranty, anyway.
GuyFromNJ
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 23, 2012 @ 2:01a
I have this one from the Dell deal for $299 last december - upped the ram to 8 GB for 24$. Works great. This is a very good travel laptop. I reccomend this one. This is not refurb right?
I have a 3 year old netbook and would like to replace it. I wish to replace it with an 11" to 13" laptop. I would be using it the majority of the time for travel purposes including playing games on LONG flights. If this is not the solution to my needs ... can someone make a recommendation of an alternative in the same price range?
Thank you ...
Sk8terboy
Dismembered Member
posted: Jun. 23, 2012 @ 1:16p
DUDSTER said: I have a 3 year old netbook and would like to replace it. I wish to replace it with an 11" to 13" laptop. I would be using it the majority of the time for travel purposes including playing games on LONG flights. If this is not the solution to my needs ... can someone make a recommendation of an alternative in the same price range?
Thank you ...
I must agree with previous posters that this is a very good price for a unit with these specs.
Personally, I'd upgrade the 250GB drive to a 120GB - 128GB SSD drive ($75-90), and upgrade to 4GB memory ($25), for a grand total of ~$400. SSD drives offer the best bang for your buck performance-wise, and you can't go wrong with doubling your memory for $25.
Of course, your upgrades will take some level of technical ability, so YMMV.
I don't recall every seeing an 11-12" notebook that comes standard with a good size SSD drive for $400 or less. If there was such a build, obviously, if the price could be kept down, that'd be a better choice than upgrading those components (for some).
Bottom line ... this gives you a Core i3 processor (not a gimped one), that lets you base any future upgrades off of ... which is fantastic, IMO.
StueyG
Hysterical member
posted: Jun. 23, 2012 @ 1:25p
Dell has good service? Since when? Their service is a joke. You have to argue with them to get anything done. Big huge hassle.
Sk8terboy
Dismembered Member
posted: Jun. 23, 2012 @ 1:28p
StueyG said: Dell has good service? Since when? Their service is a joke. You have to argue with them to get anything done. Big huge hassle.
In my experience, they offer quick and good service, short waits to reach a Dell Rep. Best service is if you have a currently active service plan, but that costs extra $.
macdave
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jun. 23, 2012 @ 6:10p
Now if Dell (&acer) would just get rid of the glossy screen and lid.
AusTex Deal Seeker
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 23, 2012 @ 6:41p
Sk8terboy said: StueyG said: Dell has good service? Since when? Their service is a joke. You have to argue with them to get anything done. Big huge hassle.
In my experience, they offer quick and good service, short waits to reach a Dell Rep. Best service is if you have a currently active service plan, but that costs extra $.Credit where credit is due -- I have had spectacular luck with Dell service, and their machines are top-drawer, very high quality in my experience, they just go and go and do NOT break, and if ever they do, Dell is behind you all the way.
dealbuy
Member
posted: Jun. 24, 2012 @ 9:04a
Bought one several weeks ago for daughter, and ordered another for wife today. Really nice machine. Edited high def video without a problem. Great keyboard and clear screen. Small and light with long battery life. Yes it would be nice to have sandy bridge and quicksync, and why they make those glossy lids is a mystery, but it's a really nice machine for $300 shipped. I paid more for an atom netbook that is not in the same league. This is a low end ultrabook as far as I'm concerned. Highly recommended.
vegetation
Senior Member - 3K
posted: Jun. 26, 2012 @ 3:13a
Been using mine today and can say this is a sweet laptop for its price. I've owned a bunch over the years - laptops, netbooks, tablets, and this unit ranks right up there at the top when considering cost. The keyboard is wonderful, not too small and has excellent tactile feel to it. Screen is bright and sharp. Build is wonderful. i3 is fast enough without hiccups that any processor of a lesser class will experience. Full windows7 blows away any android tablet out there. My only complaint is the fan stays on nearly all the time, it's not too loud fortunately - perhaps an SSD will help cut down on internal heat ? Anyway, I'd definitely spring for an extra 2gb stick since it's so inexpensive. Seriously, at this price for the unit it's practically a throw away toy but will give you endless hours of fun and productivity.
Uppie1414
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 26, 2012 @ 8:47p
jaymez619 said: I want but do not need; must resist....
You're stronger than I....I'm going to throw in an SSD drive and upgrade the RAM.
Thanks guys (I think...)!!
Uppie1414
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 29, 2012 @ 10:02a
Anyone have any suggestions on an SSD drive?
BPH789
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jun. 29, 2012 @ 10:12a
jaymez619 said: I want but do not need; must resist....
Just could not resist... Got 1.
ir0nw0lf
Hysterical member
posted: Jun. 29, 2012 @ 10:29a
Anyone own one of these and tossed Windows 8 Release Preview on it? If so, how did it run?
Uppie1414
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 29, 2012 @ 10:36a
BPH--you getting any upgrades?
BPH789
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jun. 29, 2012 @ 10:39a
ir0nw0lf said: Anyone own one of these and tossed Windows 8 Release Preview on it? If so, how did it run?
I think this program falls under the Win 8 upgrade for $15?
"Beginning June 2, 2012, Microsoft will roll out the Windows Upgrade Offer in 131 markets, including the U.S. and Canada," the company stated on Thursday. "Consumers who buy eligible Windows 7-based PCs through Jan. 31, 2013, can purchase an upgrade to Windows 8 Pro for an estimated retail price of $14.99 (U.S.) during the time of the promotion."Customers must purchase a PC with Windows 7 Home Basic, Home Premium, Professional, or Ultimate pre-installed -- and have a matching and valid OEM certificate of authenticity -- to be eligible for the $14.99 upgrade price.
UPDATE: Microsoft released additional information regarding the upgrade. "Beginning June 2, 2012, consumers who purchase up to five new Windows 7 PCs preinstalled with Windows 7 Home Basic, Home Premium, Professional, or Ultimate will be eligible to purchase an upgrade to Windows 8 Pro upon general availability of Windows 8," the company said on Friday. "Qualifying purchases must be made before January 31, 2013, and offers must be redeemed by February 28, 2013."
BPH789
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jun. 29, 2012 @ 10:41a
Uppie1414 said: BPH--you getting any upgrades?
Just the RAM as already have a stick of 4 GB.
I assume this lappy comes with 2 RAM slots or two 1GB modules? Even if one slot - 4GB DDR3 laptop ram is cheap.
dealbuy
Member
posted: Jun. 29, 2012 @ 5:38p
Yes, comes with a 2gb stick and an open slot. I added 4gb stick, and now have 6gb.
tjmxxx
Member
posted: Jul. 1, 2012 @ 3:26p
I also think Dell customer service stinks, even with the warranty. I have the very best all inclusive, 24/7 on premise warranty they offer. You have to argue with them to get any help.
dealbuy
Member
posted: Jul. 1, 2012 @ 3:54p
I never buy aftermarket warranties. The companies always try to avoid providing service, and blame you for the problem. If things are defective, they are likely to break early under the regular warranty. And there aren't that many moving parts - hard disks are easy to replace on your own. Tech support is a joke - usually someone who knows less than you reading stupid ideas off of a script. I get much better info from user groups and web searches.
Uppie1414
Senior Member
posted: Jul. 9, 2012 @ 3:36p
Anyone else put an SSD drive in here?
kanecats1
New Member
posted: Jul. 11, 2012 @ 10:40a
I have one on order. I plan to give it a go this weekend...
hueyav8or
New Member
posted: Aug. 28, 2012 @ 6:19a
Been using it now for almost 2 months. Maxed it out at 8gb and it is fast, especially for a netbook. It was a step up from my 10in Atom based Acer (still good but this is much better).
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