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letsspendlotsofmoney
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 7:27a
Let the complaining begin.... "No Micro Centers in my area" ... All the good deals are reserved for select cities... Oh wait... I work about 20mins from a Micro Center...
No Frys or BJ's here in Michgian....
ADventurous
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 7:41a
letsspendlotsofmoney said: Let the complaining begin.... "No Micro Centers in my area" ... All the good deals are reserved for select cities... Oh wait... I work about 20mins from a Micro Center...
No Frys or BJ's here in Michgian....
Well you should be complaining because I live five minutes from a Microcenter.
Marlin1975
Senior Member - 2K
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 8:07a
The 1045T is actually a better buy if you need a new board as you can buy that and it will give you $40 off any AM3+ board(bought at the same time). There are some good 970 based boards this would work great in and also be Piledriver ready.
Cocheseuga
Shopaholic Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 8:25a
Hmm, to do this or a i5 unlocked build. I'm coming from a Phenom x3 8650 build.
randi4ni
Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 9:52a
this is for cheapness. i5-2500k is for value w/oc
I have built several of both setups. Amd still cant compete with a 2500k that will oc to 4+ghz easy
that being said 90% of people dont even need a stock clocked 2500k
the ivy bridge stuff looks attractive if you need built in graphics but who buys an ivy bridge to use the built in graphics?
Gambit3
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 10:29a
low-power htpc builders.
fatxman
Handsome Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 10:42a
randi4ni said: this is for cheapness. i5-2500k is for value w/oc
I have built several of both setups. Amd still cant compete with a 2500k that will oc to 4+ghz easy
that being said 90% of people dont even need a stock clocked 2500k
the ivy bridge stuff looks attractive if you need built in graphics but who buys an ivy bridge to use the built in graphics?
The quad core Phenom II can probably OC to 3.6 and beyond. It should match the 2500k
letsspendlotsofmoney
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 11:27a
letsspendlotsofmoney said: Let the complaining begin.... "No Micro Centers in my area" ... All the good deals are reserved for select cities... Oh wait... I work about 20mins from a Micro Center...
No Frys or BJ's here in Michgian....
Sorry... I meant BJ's wholsale club.... We still have bj's in Michigan which are easily found on 8 mile and most of less desireable neighborhoods of Detroit...
dzer0
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 11:43a
fatxman said: randi4ni said: this is for cheapness. i5-2500k is for value w/oc
I have built several of both setups. Amd still cant compete with a 2500k that will oc to 4+ghz easy
that being said 90% of people dont even need a stock clocked 2500k
the ivy bridge stuff looks attractive if you need built in graphics but who buys an ivy bridge to use the built in graphics?
The quad core Phenom II can probably OC to 3.6 and beyond. It should match the 2500k
No it can't match a 2500k, I have an x4 overclocked to 4ghz with a water cooling setup, a 2500k on the same cooler would go over 5ghz. I love AMD but they can't compete at the high end anymore.
fatxman
Handsome Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 1:28p
dzer0 said: fatxman said: randi4ni said: this is for cheapness. i5-2500k is for value w/oc
I have built several of both setups. Amd still cant compete with a 2500k that will oc to 4+ghz easy
that being said 90% of people dont even need a stock clocked 2500k
the ivy bridge stuff looks attractive if you need built in graphics but who buys an ivy bridge to use the built in graphics?
The quad core Phenom II can probably OC to 3.6 and beyond. It should match the 2500k
No it can't match a 2500k, I have an x4 overclocked to 4ghz with a water cooling setup, a 2500k on the same cooler would go over 5ghz. I love AMD but they can't compete at the high end anymore.
I didn't say 2500k OC. Everyone knows that Intel is against OC. AMD is faster clock for clock.
Danzilla
Broke Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 1:42p
Hmmm, how does the B93 compare to regular Phenom II x4 line...like the 945?
EDIT: Nevermind, answered my own question. B93 (and the other) are just renamed bare OEM versions of the Phenom II 830 chip.
Danzilla
Broke Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 1:45p
fatxman said: randi4ni said: this is for cheapness. i5-2500k is for value w/oc
I have built several of both setups. Amd still cant compete with a 2500k that will oc to 4+ghz easy
that being said 90% of people dont even need a stock clocked 2500k
the ivy bridge stuff looks attractive if you need built in graphics but who buys an ivy bridge to use the built in graphics?
The quad core Phenom II can probably OC to 3.6 and beyond. It should match the 2500kNo it shouldn't. Not even close. Even if you're only talking about clock speed and not overall performance, the 2500k still has greater OC potential than most Phenoms. At $30-$40 this is still a great value, just don't expect to match a 2500k.
fatxman said: I didn't say 2500k OC. Everyone knows that Intel is against OC. AMD is faster clock for clock.That's just dumb. You don't compare one CPU OC'd to another not-OC'd. Like saying a Honda can match a Ferrari... it you don't bother using the Ferrari's gas pedal. As for Intel being against OC'ing... that's pretty much the whole meaning of the 'k' designator in the 2500k and similar chips. Unlocked multipliers = OC chips. Odd thing for a company against OC'ing to do, eh?
importcf
Geeky member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 2:55p
My store is running a promo to clear open box 50% off open box board when you buy compatible processor and they have had this for months now( Cambridge MA I got the x5 with Gigabyte 970-ud3 for 80 bucks. then there is a -10 MIR on the board
jaschiang
Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 3:08p
How much performance diffference will I notice between B73 and B93, if just for multimedia use? Also, can I install it by re-using my current heatsink? Thanks!
jaschiang said: How much performance diffference will I notice between B73 and B93, if just for multimedia use? Also, can I install it by re-using my current heatsink? Thanks!Either one is overkill (by 'multimedia use' you mean just playback, right?) If you mean games or video encoding, etc., then spend the extra $10 for the 4th core. That all depends on what you current heatsink is, don't you think??? Which we have no way of knowing.
jaschiang
Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 3:44p
Thanks! I will then go with 4-core since I will do video encoding for sure.
fatxman
Handsome Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 4:14p
Danzilla said: fatxman said: randi4ni said: this is for cheapness. i5-2500k is for value w/oc
I have built several of both setups. Amd still cant compete with a 2500k that will oc to 4+ghz easy
that being said 90% of people dont even need a stock clocked 2500k
the ivy bridge stuff looks attractive if you need built in graphics but who buys an ivy bridge to use the built in graphics?
The quad core Phenom II can probably OC to 3.6 and beyond. It should match the 2500kNo it shouldn't. Not even close. Even if you're only talking about clock speed and not overall performance, the 2500k still has greater OC potential than most Phenoms. At $30-$40 this is still a great value, just don't expect to match a 2500k.
fatxman said: I didn't say 2500k OC. Everyone knows that Intel is against OC. AMD is faster clock for clock.That's just dumb. You don't compare one CPU OC'd to another not-OC'd. Like saying a Honda can match a Ferrari... it you don't bother using the Ferrari's gas pedal. As for Intel being against OC'ing... that's pretty much the whole meaning of the 'k' designator in the 2500k and similar chips. Unlocked multipliers = OC chips. Odd thing for a company against OC'ing to do, eh?
Intel has always been against OC. AMD is OC friendly. You can OC with all their CPU. Black edition or not. I know what I am talking about. I have an advanced degree in CPU!
As for comparing the CPU. Intel requires you to jump through hoops. AMD you can just select auto OC on MB and you are done. I wouldn't be shocked if people are in jail in Intel's office for OC Intel CPU!
importcf
Geeky member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 4:19p
I am not sure what school you went to but, none that i have seen offer an advanced degree in CPU. I like AMD and intel but to say one is better for OC is just stupid. You can get any intel k series and OC by just bumping up the multiplier(same with AMD) any Easy OC or Auto OC profile is dependent on the motherboard and how that manufacturer sets it up.fatxman said: Danzilla said: fatxman said: randi4ni said: this is for cheapness. i5-2500k is for value w/oc
I have built several of both setups. Amd still cant compete with a 2500k that will oc to 4+ghz easy
that being said 90% of people dont even need a stock clocked 2500k
the ivy bridge stuff looks attractive if you need built in graphics but who buys an ivy bridge to use the built in graphics?
The quad core Phenom II can probably OC to 3.6 and beyond. It should match the 2500kNo it shouldn't. Not even close. Even if you're only talking about clock speed and not overall performance, the 2500k still has greater OC potential than most Phenoms. At $30-$40 this is still a great value, just don't expect to match a 2500k.
fatxman said: I didn't say 2500k OC. Everyone knows that Intel is against OC. AMD is faster clock for clock.That's just dumb. You don't compare one CPU OC'd to another not-OC'd. Like saying a Honda can match a Ferrari... it you don't bother using the Ferrari's gas pedal. As for Intel being against OC'ing... that's pretty much the whole meaning of the 'k' designator in the 2500k and similar chips. Unlocked multipliers = OC chips. Odd thing for a company against OC'ing to do, eh?
Intel has always been against OC. AMD is OC friendly. You can OC with all their CPU. Black edition or not. I know what I am talking about. I have an advanced degree in CPU!
As for comparing the CPU. Intel requires you to jump through hoops. AMD you can just select auto OC on MB and you are done. I wouldn't be shocked if people are in jail in Intel's office for OC Intel CPU!
af21187
Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 4:52p
fatxman said: Danzilla said: fatxman said: randi4ni said: this is for cheapness. i5-2500k is for value w/oc
I have built several of both setups. Amd still cant compete with a 2500k that will oc to 4+ghz easy
that being said 90% of people dont even need a stock clocked 2500k
the ivy bridge stuff looks attractive if you need built in graphics but who buys an ivy bridge to use the built in graphics?
The quad core Phenom II can probably OC to 3.6 and beyond. It should match the 2500kNo it shouldn't. Not even close. Even if you're only talking about clock speed and not overall performance, the 2500k still has greater OC potential than most Phenoms. At $30-$40 this is still a great value, just don't expect to match a 2500k.
fatxman said: I didn't say 2500k OC. Everyone knows that Intel is against OC. AMD is faster clock for clock.That's just dumb. You don't compare one CPU OC'd to another not-OC'd. Like saying a Honda can match a Ferrari... it you don't bother using the Ferrari's gas pedal. As for Intel being against OC'ing... that's pretty much the whole meaning of the 'k' designator in the 2500k and similar chips. Unlocked multipliers = OC chips. Odd thing for a company against OC'ing to do, eh?
Intel has always been against OC. AMD is OC friendly. You can OC with all their CPU. Black edition or not. I know what I am talking about. I have an advanced degree in CPU!
As for comparing the CPU. Intel requires you to jump through hoops. AMD you can just select auto OC on MB and you are done. I wouldn't be shocked if people are in jail in Intel's office for OC Intel CPU!
Oh gosh, here we go again. You know nothing about PCs. Intel is NOT against overclocking. That is why their K-series processors are their best selling (excluding OEM). Why would they offer the product if they were against it? You have constantly demonstrated that you are an AMD fanboy, and we understand that (you heavily promoted that failure 8-core CPU and claimed more cores = better performance), but do not post misinformation. Clock for clock, the 2500K destroys the X4 965. I can say that because I've had both, and know.
The "auto overclock" feature depends on the Motherboard, not the CPU brand. My AsRock MB overclocked my 2500k to 4.6 GHz by pressing 2 buttons in the BIOS.
And there is no such thing as a degree in "CPU". Hardware engineering, yes. You obviously either work for AMD or are one of their shareholders.
hunter2010
Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 5:23p
Is the Phenom II X6 1045t good for photo editing, video, play movies, and remote connecting to the company, and virtualization. ??? or Inter core I5 or 7
hunter2010
Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 5:33p
This board does not have HDMI and USB3 ports
Morro
Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 6:44p
hunter2010 said: Is the Phenom II X6 1045t good for photo editing, video, play movies, and remote connecting to the company, and virtualization. ??? or Inter core I5 or 7
all of them are good for it. as long as your photo/video application can use multiple cores you're good.
Morro
Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 6:47p
fatxman said:
Intel has always been against OC. AMD is OC friendly. You can OC with all their CPU. Black edition or not. I know what I am talking about. I have an advanced degree in CPU!
As for comparing the CPU. Intel requires you to jump through hoops. AMD you can just select auto OC on MB and you are done. I wouldn't be shocked if people are in jail in Intel's office for OC Intel CPU!
Really?! Historically speaking Intel processors have had more headroom for overclocking while standard speed AMD CPUs was pretty close to the limit. YMMV for each CPU model/batch. And yes, autooverclocking is a motherboard's feature, exists both in Intel and AMD boards.
importcf
Geeky member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 6:56p
hunter2010 said: This board does not have HDMI and USB3 ports What board?
dzer0
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 6:56p
Referring to an earlier thread, I find it hilarious that someone with an 'Advanced degree in CPU' would think that PC makers like HP and Dell manufacture processors. And no, he wasn't referring to Alphas, if anyone has been around long enough to remember those.
bolddonkeytic
New Member
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 9:01p
Do you seriously use all the CPU power so you have to overclock it?
mikelou26therock
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Aug. 24, 2012 @ 11:56p
fatxman said: Danzilla said: fatxman said: randi4ni said: this is for cheapness. i5-2500k is for value w/oc
I have built several of both setups. Amd still cant compete with a 2500k that will oc to 4+ghz easy
that being said 90% of people dont even need a stock clocked 2500k
the ivy bridge stuff looks attractive if you need built in graphics but who buys an ivy bridge to use the built in graphics?
The quad core Phenom II can probably OC to 3.6 and beyond. It should match the 2500kNo it shouldn't. Not even close. Even if you're only talking about clock speed and not overall performance, the 2500k still has greater OC potential than most Phenoms. At $30-$40 this is still a great value, just don't expect to match a 2500k.
fatxman said: I didn't say 2500k OC. Everyone knows that Intel is against OC. AMD is faster clock for clock.That's just dumb. You don't compare one CPU OC'd to another not-OC'd. Like saying a Honda can match a Ferrari... it you don't bother using the Ferrari's gas pedal. As for Intel being against OC'ing... that's pretty much the whole meaning of the 'k' designator in the 2500k and similar chips. Unlocked multipliers = OC chips. Odd thing for a company against OC'ing to do, eh?
Intel has always been against OC. AMD is OC friendly. You can OC with all their CPU. Black edition or not. I know what I am talking about. I have an advanced degree in CPU!
As for comparing the CPU. Intel requires you to jump through hoops. AMD you can just select auto OC on MB and you are done. I wouldn't be shocked if people are in jail in Intel's office for OC Intel CPU!
stop trolling
diswes
Senior Member
posted: Aug. 25, 2012 @ 10:27a
randi4ni said: this is for cheapness. i5-2500k is for value w/oc
I have built several of both setups. Amd still cant compete with a 2500k that will oc to 4+ghz easy
that being said 90% of people dont even need a stock clocked 2500k
the ivy bridge stuff looks attractive if you need built in graphics but who buys an ivy bridge to use the built in graphics?I do since its greener.
f2000sa
Ancient Member
posted: Aug. 28, 2012 @ 10:43a
My store is running a promo to clear open box 50% off open box board when you buy compatible processor and they have had this for months now( Cambridge MA I got the x5 with Gigabyte 970-ud3 for 80 bucks. then there is a -10 MIR on the board
Is this promotion (50% off mobo) still going on?
rdh
Senior Member
posted: Sep. 27, 2012 @ 1:45p
Marlin1975 said: The 1045T is actually a better buy if you need a new board as you can buy that and it will give you $40 off any AM3+ board(bought at the same time). There are some good 970 based boards this would work great in and also be Piledriver ready.
This deal is still on. I bought a processor/freeMB at the Microcenter in Marietta, Ga for $105 out the door, and a $10 rebate on my cheapie MB brings the total to $95 AR.
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