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kickerstarter
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Aug. 31, 2012 @ 4:03p
Rumor is Amazon will update its Kindle on 9/6. Kindle Touch has been "unavailable" for a week.
magwheels
Member
posted: Aug. 31, 2012 @ 9:15p
Is this a good deal? I honestly don't know.
nodinero
Ancient Member
posted: Aug. 31, 2012 @ 9:47p
I don't mean to open a flame war and really "to each his own." My personal preference is for the Amazon Kindle ereaders as they are the de facto market leader with 60%+ of the market: NY Times Article from 2011. For the most part they all pretty much do the same thing with a couple exceptions:
1) Kindles essentially only read MOBI, AMZN (a customized version of MOBI), and PDF files. 2) Other ereaders can read the popular EPUB format, Kindles do not. 3) Some 3G enabled Kindles have access to limited web surfing for emergency use (eg, it's slow as hell but it works).
The newest Nooks have a new "front light" which is quite good. I hear the new Kindle will have something very similar and possibly an upgraded screen with higher contrast too.
So for me, I went with Kindle and have three of their devices. They work well, Amazon supports them through a very generous warranty, and I haven't had any problems getting and transferring books to them (you can even email docs to your device). Recently I bought a refurb Kindle 4th generation (not touch, just buttons) for $45 direct from Amazon. So at these prices I'm not finding any reason to jump ship.
magwheels said: Is this a good deal? I honestly don't know.
dlong
Broke Member
posted: Sep. 2, 2012 @ 9:12a
thx nodinero. I had no idea that Kindles did not do ePub formats.
Treefarn
Thrifty Member
posted: Sep. 4, 2012 @ 10:42a
nodinero said: I don't mean to open a flame war and really "to each his own." My personal preference is for the Amazon Kindle ereaders as they are the de facto market leader with 60%+ of the market: NY Times Article from 2011. For the most part they all pretty much do the same thing with a couple exceptions:
1) Kindles essentially only read MOBI, AMZN (a customized version of MOBI), and PDF files. 2) Other ereaders can read the popular EPUB format, Kindles do not. 3) Some 3G enabled Kindles have access to limited web surfing for emergency use (eg, it's slow as hell but it works).
The newest Nooks have a new "front light" which is quite good. I hear the new Kindle will have something very similar and possibly an upgraded screen with higher contrast too.
So for me, I went with Kindle and have three of their devices. They work well, Amazon supports them through a very generous warranty, and I haven't had any problems getting and transferring books to them (you can even email docs to your device). Recently I bought a refurb Kindle 4th generation (not touch, just buttons) for $45 direct from Amazon. So at these prices I'm not finding any reason to jump ship.
magwheels said: Is this a good deal? I honestly don't know.
I'm a little confused by this post. Normally, if you 'prefer' something, there must have been some comparison. Your 1-3 bullet points seem to favor the Nook (the 3G Nooks have the same limited web surfing). You may LIKE your Kindle, but why do you have a 'preference' over the Nook?
Anyway, to provide a counterpoint, yes, Nook can read ePubs. As far as I know, for the Kindle, you have to purchase direct from Amazon. (there are some free Kindle sites, but for purchases...) With ePubs, there are a variety of different locations to purchase from. While there isn't a tremendous amount of price difference between different stores, there is occasionally some.
Nook also has a generous warranty. When my son's Nook stopped working, they replaced it right at my local Barnes and Noble, didn't need to ship it off to Amazon and await a new one.
As to whether its a good buy at this price, no, I don't think it is. I've seen cheaper (though I don't know of any current deals), and with new Kindle's coming out soon, new 7inch iPads possibly coming out soon, I would expect further reduction in Nook prices.
scottxmso
Senior Member - 4K
posted: Sep. 4, 2012 @ 12:39p
Treefarn said: I'm a little confused by this post. Normally, if you 'prefer' something, there must have been some comparison. Your 1-3 bullet points seem to favor the Nook (the 3G Nooks have the same limited web surfing). You may LIKE your Kindle, but why do you have a 'preference' over the Nook?
Anyway, to provide a counterpoint, yes, Nook can read ePubs. As far as I know, for the Kindle, you have to purchase direct from Amazon. (there are some free Kindle sites, but for purchases...) With ePubs, there are a variety of different locations to purchase from. While there isn't a tremendous amount of price difference between different stores, there is occasionally some.
Nook also has a generous warranty. When my son's Nook stopped working, they replaced it right at my local Barnes and Noble, didn't need to ship it off to Amazon and await a new one.
As to whether its a good buy at this price, no, I don't think it is. I've seen cheaper (though I don't know of any current deals), and with new Kindle's coming out soon, new 7inch iPads possibly coming out soon, I would expect further reduction in Nook prices.
When you buy a Kindle or Nook, you are not just buying the device itself. You are making a choice as to which vendor you will purchase your future ebooks from. Amazon/B&N are aggressively competing (and very possibly losing money) on e-book readers, since they can make the money back easily over a few years if they can "lock in" a new customer now. It entirely makes sense that one would choose one platform over the other not because it has better hardware, but because the vendor's content/prices/service is better. For instance, the Kindle might be desirable if you have Prime and can access their free "lending library" for Kindle users.
Really, I find this whole system quite annoying...and it's why I refuse to buy a Kindle, Nook, or any other reader that is centered around content consumption from a single vendor. Some of these devices (as you say) do support other formats, or may be hackable to support more formats or book markets (ie Nook Color). But in any case...I want to buy a device that reads books from any vendor, and if I spend money on ebooks I would like to read them on whatever device I want without restriction. Otherwise, i'll stick with dead tree books for now.
chanone
New Member
posted: Sep. 4, 2012 @ 12:57p
There is always Calibre that manages eBooks and it can convert from/to formats that any eReader supports. I never find ePub or Mobi a problem.
Treefarn
Thrifty Member
posted: Sep. 4, 2012 @ 1:09p
scottxmso said: Treefarn said: I'm a little confused by this post. Normally, if you 'prefer' something, there must have been some comparison. Your 1-3 bullet points seem to favor the Nook (the 3G Nooks have the same limited web surfing). You may LIKE your Kindle, but why do you have a 'preference' over the Nook?
Anyway, to provide a counterpoint, yes, Nook can read ePubs. As far as I know, for the Kindle, you have to purchase direct from Amazon. (there are some free Kindle sites, but for purchases...) With ePubs, there are a variety of different locations to purchase from. While there isn't a tremendous amount of price difference between different stores, there is occasionally some.
Nook also has a generous warranty. When my son's Nook stopped working, they replaced it right at my local Barnes and Noble, didn't need to ship it off to Amazon and await a new one.
As to whether its a good buy at this price, no, I don't think it is. I've seen cheaper (though I don't know of any current deals), and with new Kindle's coming out soon, new 7inch iPads possibly coming out soon, I would expect further reduction in Nook prices.
When you buy a Kindle or Nook, you are not just buying the device itself. You are making a choice as to which vendor you will purchase your future ebooks from. Amazon/B&N are aggressively competing (and very possibly losing money) on e-book readers, since they can make the money back easily over a few years if they can "lock in" a new customer now. It entirely makes sense that one would choose one platform over the other not because it has better hardware, but because the vendor's content/prices/service is better. For instance, the Kindle might be desirable if you have Prime and can access their free "lending library" for Kindle users.
Really, I find this whole system quite annoying...and it's why I refuse to buy a Kindle, Nook, or any other reader that is centered around content consumption from a single vendor. Some of these devices (as you say) do support other formats, or may be hackable to support more formats or book markets (ie Nook Color). But in any case...I want to buy a device that reads books from any vendor, and if I spend money on ebooks I would like to read them on whatever device I want without restriction. Otherwise, i'll stick with dead tree books for now.
Well, that was my point with mentioning the Nook supports ePub, which you can buy from a multitude of different sellers. You aren't locked in to buying from B&N. And as the above post mentions, you can always convert from one format to another using Calibre. Not the most convenient option, but simple and free.
And I'm not sure I really understand your gripe. If you buy Final Fantasy for the XBox, you don't expect it to work in a Playstation. If you buy Adobe for a windows machine, you don't expect it to work on your Mac. If you buy a CD, you don't expect it to work in your tape deck.
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