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If you are going in for traction treatment, you might want to take to your providers about a home traction device. I have this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Saunders-Cervical-Hometrac-Deluxe-199594/dp/B002BUOLNY/
It's expensive, but if nothing else is doing it for you, might want to check it out. It's a serious piece of equipment that you should get some training to use correctly - but that kinda goes for anything that you are using to manipulate your neck or back. They can write you a script for it if your insurance will cover it.

suezyque said:   BlackKnight85 said:   This might take away the pain temporarily but it won't fix the problem.

You need to find a doctor that does Prolotherapy to fix the problem. The pain will cease when the problem is fixed. At least it did for me.


The problem is disc degeneration and arthritis. You can't FIX those issues without surgery and I WILL NOT have back surgery. I am seeing a pain specialist next week and will proceed from there for additional treatment.

For what it's worth, I used to have backpain for a year and a half. I had to take epidural shots and was told that it wasn't severe and I just had to exercise and live with it. I tried for a few months but my concentration at work was going down the hill. I took a medical leave and went to India. The best part of the trip was (apart from time off from stress), that I visited an Ayurvedic hospital and was an inpatient for a couple of weeks. They made me go through their regular list of items for back pain and a couple of months after that I quit my job and I am all fine now ... what I am intending to say is that in my case a simple muscle inflammation was causing so much pain and the doctors weren't able to attribute it to stress etc. I would recommend any combination of the above (how much ever possible) including sleeping more than you do right now. Hope some of this may come of use. Good luck to all getting rid of this nasty disease.

It's amazing how many people are chiming in on this thread and how everyone thinks it's a good deal. We're all desperate I guess! I've tried steroid shots, traction, massage, physical therapy, chiropractic, electric stim, core strengthening and exercises, etc. While it's gotten better in a year and a half, I'm not the same. 2 Bulging discs in my neck. I've tried about everything except voodoo (which I have an appointment next week), and this pillow.....Guess I'm not alone. People are desperate for relief.

I have figured out our problems with all of OUR backs,
it's..... OUR WALLETS ARE TO FAT!!! It's breaking our backs.

It appears that back problems is a growing trend in our country and would like to know what the culprit of this trend is?
Of all things I've tried, exercise is the only thing that has really helped and as long as I am exercising religiously then I am fine.

Wow so many greens...am I missing something here??? Is this some kind of revolutionary product that I wasn't aware of?

Add me to the list. Stretcher is on the way and I get the cortisone shots this afternoon!

My DH has the Lumbar Extender and uses it every day since playing Golf stresses your lower back. I bought it for him and at first he thought it was wacky but now he's worked his way up to the highest position and even takes it with him when he travels. You need to pay attention to the relaxation mode when after you roll off the device. That's one of the most important steps. I don't know if the first device comes with that or not, but his did. Here are the instructions.

No one has mentioned a TENS Unit. We couldn't live without ours. The sell them pretty cheaply on Overstock now but I don't know what the quality is. Our is a Staodyn, which can still be found. Ours is older and doesn't have the 15 minute or so cut off timer. The cheapest pads I've found are on Amazon. They were a really nice quality.

What the hell. In for one.

Spinal decompression therapy, i-flex (iherb.com), acupuncture, warm water exercise, tush cush (Amazon), back pillo (Amazon), extra firm latex mattress, "Back Relief Elite" & "Super Sciatica Relief" (google it), prescription Relafen (for short term use only right after a new disc herniation or injury), prayer & spiritual growth.

NO CORTISONE SHOTS, NO SURGERY, NO ADDICTIVE PAINKILLERS, NO BURNING OFF NERVE ENDINGS, ETC. NO TREATMENTS THAT COULD CAUSE MORE DAMAGE. GO FOR HEALING!!!

is this good to use if you have lordosis?

Looks like it would work great

my lower back hurts and i've learned to live with pain also. however, when my backaches flare up, i stand up straight and bend forward. it would relieve the pain almost instantly. arching my back backward hurts more.

ducky51 said:   I dont even have back pain and I order one just to see what it can doThat works better for the economy than bailout.

cyberpitstop said:   I have figured out our problems with all of OUR backs,
it's..... OUR WALLETS ARE TOO FAT!!! It's breaking our backs.


And thats why we have fatwallet to help lighten that load

I use Discover at Amazon and applied the DSCVRHSP code at checkout, but it said the code was not applicable to this.

AgingArmadillo said:   I use Discover at Amazon and applied the DSCVRHSP code at checkout, but it said the code was not applicable to this.

Make sure you are choosing the item SOLD & fulfilled by Amazon, not just fulfilled by Amazon.

MrLincoln said:   I used to take Relafen (until my ears started to ring!), but now I use i-flex that I get from Walgreens or Riteaid or iherb.com(cheapest at $22/bottle shipped when you buy 4). It is a non-toxic patented Danish rose hips product that has been shown on double-blind studies to work for 80%. It is truly a blessing if you are one of the lucky 80%!

You are quoting statistics (such as the 80% effective) that do not exist. You're not helping by repeating inflated advertising claims.

kingdoodler said:   I could not live without my inversion table. I am only on it for 4-5 minutes A day. I end up with better posture and am A inch taller for the day to boot. Back exercises if you can do them, also help A great deal.

Have thought about getting one of those, but have heard it can be dangerous if you have certain health conditions. Anyone know if this is true and just what health conditions need to be considered?

OTOH, haven't heard of a rash of deaths caused by Teeters...

I have had good luck stretching with high density foam rollers, but I'm giving this a shot. Will report back if I get different results

Might want to try this also:

http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/...

I do not have back pain, but this book cured my wife. She had chronic pain many years ago and was diagnosed with all sorts of back issues like scar tissue, ruptured disks, etc.. She has had no re-occurence since then.

Also, I subsequently bought it for 5 additional people who it completely cured.

Only 6 people is a small sampling, but it is a 100% cure rate for these 6, so it's worth a try if your are in pain.

Good luck!
SteveG

DH Dr told him to get rid of his Inversion table because of his age 65+ He had just gotten it and it's not like he had been using it a long time. She said it was too dangerous.

I find the most relief from back pain from just hanging from a chin up bar and stretching my spine out that way. We have one of those chin up bar things that go in the door way and I use that. I do that several times a day until I am no longer in pain. Seems to work for me. DH has had both shoulders replaced and can not raise his arms over his head so he can not do this.

this helped me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfDe6sYFVtQ

don't need to buy any crazy contraption.

peepsiemom said:   MrLincoln said:   I used to take Relafen (until my ears started to ring!), but now I use i-flex that I get from Walgreens or Riteaid or iherb.com(cheapest at $22/bottle shipped when you buy 4). It is a non-toxic patented Danish rose hips product that has been shown on double-blind studies to work for 80%. It is truly a blessing if you are one of the lucky 80%!

You are quoting statistics (such as the 80% effective) that do not exist. You're not helping by repeating inflated advertising claims.


Healthy skepticism is a good thing, and no product, prescription or otherwise, will work for everyone. However, I regret that you appear to be misinformed regarding the difference between references to published peer-reviewed medical studies and advertising hype. The statistics for this product do indeed exist, and are derived from randomized, double-blind clinical studies. I do not own stock or have any other fiduciary interest in the manufacturer of this product, but only hope that it will help another sufferer obtain a little relief from unremitting pain.

Here is a list of citations for the product: (items 1,3,4 & 5 are placebo-controlled double blind clinical studies)

SN Willich, K Rossnagel, S Roll, A Wagner, O.Mune, J.Erlendson, A Kharazmi, H Sorensen, and K Winther. Rose hip herbal remedy in patients with rheumatoid arthritis a randomized controlled trial. Phytomedicine, 2010, 17:87-93.
N Richard, S Wolfram and J Schwager. Anti-inflammatory and chondro-protective effects of Rose hip powder and its constituent galactolipid GOPO. Osteoarthritis and Cartilage, 2008, 16, supplement 4:76.
K Winther, K Apel and G Thamsborg. A powder made from seeds and shells of a rose-hip subspecies (Rosa canina) reduces symptoms of knee and hip osteoarthritis: a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical trial. Scand J Rheumatol, 2005, 34:302-308.
E Rein, A Kharazmi and K Winther. A herbal remedy, Hyben Vital (stand. powder of a subspecies of Rosa canina fruits), reduces pain and improves general wellbeing in patients with osteoarthritis a double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomized trial. Phytomedicine, 2004, 11:383-391.
Warholm, S Skaar, E Hedman, HM Molmen and L Eik. The effects of a standardized herbal remedy made from a subtype of Rosa canina in patients with osteoarthritis: a double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled clinical trial. Current Therapeutic Research, 2003, 64:21-31.
A Kharasmi and K Winther. Rose hip inhibits chemotaxis and chemiluminescence of human peripheral blood neutrophils in vitro and reduces certain inflammatory parameters in vivo. Inflammopharmacology, 1999, 4:377-386.
K Winther , E Rein and A Kharazmi. The anti-inflammatory properties of rose-hip. Inflammopharmacology, 1999, 7:63-68.

jwardl said:   kingdoodler said:   I could not live without my inversion table. I am only on it for 4-5 minutes A day. I end up with better posture and am A inch taller for the day to boot. Back exercises if you can do them, also help A great deal.

Have thought about getting one of those, but have heard it can be dangerous if you have certain health conditions. Anyone know if this is true and just what health conditions need to be considered?

OTOH, haven't heard of a rash of deaths caused by Teeters...


Not recommended for persons with high blood pressure, certain heart or circulatory problems, gastric reflux, and some other conditions.

Just thought I'd share my tip which has cured me of 20 plus years of back pain. Read Healing back Pain by John Sarno. I read this while going through a bad spell. The book tells you to quit adjustments, anti-inflamatories, and back exercises (you need to read the book to understand why). I did this and my back pain went away after 2 weeks and I've been pain free for a few months and I have a couple of herniated discs. The most amazing thing is I do not wake up with any pain (I bet that sounds amazing and impossible to some of you). Anyway the book was like $8 at ITunes. Wow before I could post I just saw sgogo posting the same thing a few above me.

In for one! But ouch, sales tax collected in IL.

Man, do all us FWers have back problems? Thanks for the good reading. I am going to try one of these....

I'm in for the 3rd party option, $17. Thanks OP

I also read John Sarno's book "Healing Back Pain." I had back pain that kept me house bound for 4 years. I tried all types of doctors and treatments to get better. After I read this book, I became pain free in my back in less than a month. I am now living a normal, pain free life.

AgingArmadillo said:   I use Discover at Amazon and applied the DSCVRHSP code at checkout, but it said the code was not applicable to this.you need to change your shipping to one day and apply the code. you will see that Amazon takes the $3.99 off.

suezyque said:   BlackKnight85 said:   This might take away the pain temporarily but it won't fix the problem.

You need to find a doctor that does Prolotherapy to fix the problem. The pain will cease when the problem is fixed. At least it did for me.


The problem is disc degeneration and arthritis. You can't FIX those issues without surgery and I WILL NOT have back surgery. I am seeing a pain specialist next week and will proceed from there for additional treatment.


I've had surgery for my herniated disc ealier this year after waiting about 15 years, and it's helped a lot. It's been about 6 months, and I was pretty much pain free for some of them. Now some of the pain is back, but I think mostly because I let myself go. I need to start exercising again and drop some weight.

I'm not sure how all this will shake out, but so far I feel the surgery was really worth it. This was a microdiscectomy, where they make about an inch incision and remove the extra tissue that has herniated into the spinal canal. I believe this is as easy as it comes with back surgeries. If I had to do fusion or anything like that I would be a lot more scared to do the surgery.

sgogo said:   Might want to try this also:

http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/...

I do not have back pain, but this book cured my wife. She had chronic pain many years ago and was diagnosed with all sorts of back issues like scar tissue, ruptured disks, etc.. She has had no re-occurence since then.

Also, I subsequently bought it for 5 additional people who it completely cured.

Only 6 people is a small sampling, but it is a 100% cure rate for these 6, so it's worth a try if your are in pain.

Good luck!
SteveG


Thank you for the recommendation. I went to Half and bought both of his books for $7.38 shipped. (Healing Back Pain & Mind Body Connection) After reading the TMS Wiki - which was very interesting and gave me a good concept of the book and treatment, I thought it would help DH with his shoulders. Even though he's had both of them replaced and it was considered "successful", he still lives in pain every day with them.

Complete Acupressure Mat | Acupuncture Mat | Back and Neck Pain Relief Set | Back Pain Treatment | Lower Back Pain Treatment
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Just viewed this item on Amazon, and thought that it might also be worth a try & help some folks. I think that I will order the set. People who have never experienced unremitting, agonizing back pain simply don't realize how desperately you seek to find relief. I am managing pretty well, but my goal for the long run is to not take any medicines or herbal products by mouth, but only to use motion or gentle stimulation for relief.

jwardl said:   kingdoodler said:   I could not live without my inversion table. I am only on it for 4-5 minutes A day. I end up with better posture and am A inch taller for the day to boot. Back exercises if you can do them, also help A great deal.

Have thought about getting one of those, but have heard it can be dangerous if you have certain health conditions. Anyone know if this is true and just what health conditions need to be considered?

OTOH, haven't heard of a rash of deaths caused by Teeters...



From what I understand there might be A problem if you have uncontrolled high blood pressure. Also you don't have to actually hang all the way upside down, it also works well if your at A comfortable angle. I used to be concerned about pressure on my ankles, but not being all the way inverted pretty much solved that problem. I have been using my teeter for 6 years and found it is A good cheap way to decompress my spine. I am 51 with A herniation in my neck and lower back. I have not been to the Chiropractor in 5 years since I bought the table. I will say it seems my back issues seem to calm down after A few years if you don't keep reinjuring yourself.
I did "decompression therapy" at A Chiropractor's office. It worked well but was expensive. I think my Teeter works equally well and is much more convenient, and much , much cheaper.Also don't forget back exercises. A good physical therapist can teach you how to do the ones you need to strengthen the muscles around your spine and protect it better.

Stay away from the snake oil salesmen , they pray on people like us in pain.

No.

MrDeliMeatSlicer said:   No.

BRILLIANT first post, thanks for sharing!!

Today's price is under 12$

mail9139 said:   Today's price is under 12$

The $11.99 price ($5.21 shipping) is from a third party seller. If you have prime and want the free 2 day shipping (or 1 day if you have Discover), you have to buy through Amazon. The current price is $17.52


EDIT. You can still order through Amazon, but they are on a 2-3 week wait. It usually doesn't take that long, but just to let ya know. You guys bought so many, they ran out! The day I posted this it was ranked 769 in it's category, the next morning it was at 50.

OP & others this has worked for, mind sharing your height? Not that if it's made for average height it won't work for those a little taller or shorter than average, but it's definitely not the type of thing that's one size fits all. If you're much taller than average, I find very few shapes fit the curve of your back too well. Still worth a try considering the price.

I 2nd the poster who suggested firm latex mattress. It has done wonders for me. Haven't had as much luck with inversion table.



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