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Markfaafp said: great deal... I wish I had the money to spend
Good point! I'm still debating myself whether I want to blow $704-799 (if bought with 18-135mm STM lens) on this deal and have this fancy DSLR collecting dust on my shelf. For someone who, has a few decent point-and-shoot cameras, and uses camera only a few times a year, or even less, it is probably a waste of money, especially in this economy. I should have bought refurbished T2i+18-55mm kit from Canon for around $300, after cash backs, a few weeks ago. Now that was a great value.
posted: Dec. 12, 2012 @ 11:57a
It is in stock now, but if you add now total will be more than 704.
posted: Dec. 12, 2012 @ 12:15p
hav an unused T4i body, if any one intrested..
posted: Dec. 12, 2012 @ 12:21p
I took the plunge. came to $704... with the standard bag and $730 (something) with the Canon bag. So i kept the standard bag...
Thanks for all who contributed!
posted: Dec. 12, 2012 @ 12:44p
Did you add the SD card ? It did not work for me with the price: 704
posted: Dec. 12, 2012 @ 1:04p
Yes... make sure the card is from Amazon (it will default to 3rd party).
Delivery estimate: December 14, 2012 Price 1 of: Canon EOS Rebel T4i 18.0 MP CMOS Digital SLR with 18-55mm EF-S IS II Lens [Electronics] By: CANON Condition: New Sold by: Amazon.com LLC $599.00
T4i has better autofocus and cool touch screen. Images about the same. The video autofocus feature is useless. This deal is not near as good as the original T3i Amazon deal ($500 for the camera kit w/ lens, card, bag, & 3 additional lenses) but it's better than most the T3i deals out there now.
misterFRUGAL said: is the T4i that much better than the T3i?
The T4i has a much, much better auto focus system for **still photos** than the T3i. It is like night and day.
The T4i got the same autofocus system that is in the 60D. It has 9 cross-type auto focus points, plus a precision center auto focus point. The T3i had only 1 cross type point (center point.) That is especially important in low light, or with lower contrast/harder to focus subjects.
I don't know how so many reviewers don't get this, unless they have never really owned or used both cameras. I sold my T3i when I got the T4i in June. The T4i is a great camera, "5 Stars" at this price point, an all around stills-and-video camera. I would give the T3i "3 Stars" in comparison. I used the T3i mostly for video.
Here is a comparison from Amazon of the T3i to the 60D auto focus. Substitute "T4I' for "60D":
"Probably the biggest and most significant difference between the two is the focusing system. The T3i uses the same focusing system as the other Rebels -- a system designed for the old 30D. It's a 9 point focus system. ......
There's an improved (and more expensive) version of the sensor called the "cross type" sensor. It has higher precision, is faster, and detects phase in two directions at the same time (both horizontally and vertically). Hence the name "cross type".
On a T3i only the center point is a cross-type sensor. All other AF points are either horizontal or vertical. On a 60D, ALL auto-focus points are cross-type. The 60D has a much better focusing system. It's faster, more accurate, and more predictive (the computer can actually track subjects moving toward or away from you and predict where the correct focus point will be at the moment when the shutter opens. "
posted: Dec. 15, 2012 @ 9:44a
Price is back to $599.99
posted: Dec. 15, 2012 @ 1:09p
Got it today at $704 price. Sending back the t3i deal I got for $570 a few weeks back.
Are the photog classes offered helpful?
posted: Dec. 15, 2012 @ 3:51p
good deal, though not as good as the t3i deal after sale of 75-300mm lens. almost 200 difference. the t4i is not a $200 better camera; minor incremental changes.
"much better auto focus"? pffft... enjoy the kool aid; they're both great
posted: Dec. 15, 2012 @ 4:22p
hakujin said: good deal, though not as good as the t3i deal after sale of 75-300mm lens. almost 200 difference. the t4i is not a $200 better camera; minor incremental changes.
"much better auto focus"? pffft... enjoy the kool aid; they're both great
On the autofocus point, the difference is 9 cross-type AF points in the T4i vs. 1 cross-type and 8 single axis AF points in the T3i. Mainly that's going to matter in low light.
As for low light, T4i will do better because it has a Digic5 processor and higher available ISO. How many usable shots you'll get at max ISO I'm not sure, as I've not seen side-by-side pictures. But as noted by others the biggest difference is if you want to shoot video -- T4i supports STM lenses which will autofocus while shooting video. T3i does not. The rest of the differences are fairly trivial.
So I'd say if you are going to shoot video or in low light, get the T4i. If you're going to shoot stills in daylight, get the T3i and save the money.
posted: Dec. 15, 2012 @ 5:54p
dunno, i'm not taking shots at those uber high ISO speeds because they become too noisy either way you go; both cameras can be great in low light; what matters is the lens. get a Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II prime.
as many have already attested, the video auto focus is indeed trivial at best and largely junk (and I quote)
"The much-touted continuous autofocus for video takes several seconds to find its mark. It's annoying for video. For photography, it's excruciating, with its unpredictable, hugely disappointing performance."
and if you're not buying the STM lens (NOT at this price): click click click click click click click click; manual wins
as far as your either or, you get the t4i because the t3i deal is no longer available. both deals available, the t3i trumps on a cost value basis despite ISO difference and certainly not inferior in the video dept. i.e. one needn't relegate themselves to 'daylight only' shots w/ the t3i, that's entirely glib. each are great cameras; but if you think the incremental changes are worth a couple hundred more, then go for it.
posted: Dec. 15, 2012 @ 6:04p
to add, if you're not getting the STM lens in lieu of the aforementioned kit lens, then the AF video argument is moot anyway.
posted: Dec. 15, 2012 @ 10:21p
Does anyone know if you can stack the 10% off coupon for orders over $100?
posted: Dec. 15, 2012 @ 10:27p
Both are great cameras, T3i deal is dead so the question is moot. Most got the T3i for $200 - $300 less than this so it's not worth the marginal upgrade.
The t4i appears to be much better higher ISOs. If you look at the RAW image though it almost looks worse.
that's because it is worse.
"Looking at the graph it's interesting to note that the 650D also shows higher noise levels than its predecessor, the EOS 600D, throughout nearly the entire range of ISO values"
So higher ISO = yes
where ISO values are same, it's [marginally] worse than the 600D.
Larger question is why would a consumer take an image at more than 12,800 ISO? Unless you are maybe a paparazzi in the dark or journalist, a slow shutter will be optimal, esp combined w/ prime lens where telephoto is unnecessary . If you are in need of either, well... you're probably not buying a budget DSLR anyway and instead opting for a Mark III
a T4i is a great camera and I would like that touch screen where prices were equal, but let's not kid ourselves shall we. It's not even a $100 better camera. The video AF is known to suck balls (and requires a STM lens to be marginally effective); ISOs that high are not practical.
the strongest upgrades are the touch screen, digic 5 refinement, and more points on the AF system.
posted: Dec. 17, 2012 @ 1:06a
Agree with Hakujin, the ISO difference is a wash. For a clean photo, your ISO should rarely exceed 400 or 800 -- maybe 1600 at the far end. Even in most low-light conditions ISO 800 paired with a low f-stop and steady hand (1/4th to 1/2-second exposures) should be enough to get the shot. And even in darker situations, you're much better off finding a place to rest the camera for stability (a table, low wall, window ledge, anything will work) and boosting your exposure instead of boosting your ISO.
posted: Dec. 17, 2012 @ 1:51p
...wonder if this deal is over for good this time....or will it revive...one more time ?
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posted: Dec. 27, 2012 @ 9:05p
So My Cart looks like this. Trying to decide if i want to pull the trigger or go with the 18-135mm lens kit. Thoughts? Thanks.
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