GUNS, BIGHORN 19ECB Safe - $569.99 shipped plus tax at costco.com

Why would you want to swap out the keypad for a dial? Is the dial more secure?

rallycobra said:   Why would you want to swap out the keypad for a dial? Is the dial more secure?
For preppers, it won't be affected by EMP!

I bought this safe a year ago from Costco for this price and I really like it. First off, I called the manufacturer right after I ordered it to inquire about swapping the digital keypad for the analog dial and they said that was something they used to do but they absolutely will no longer do it on this safe model anymore. They were very friendly about it, but it was clear that no amount of pleading was going to get them to budge. So unless you have different luck than I did, I think it's "safe" to say that that is a dead part of the deal. So if you buy it just set yourself a recurring calendar item to pop up every year or whatever to remind you to replace the batteries. Anyway, continuing the customer service aspect, I called the manufacturer back with questions about various things and they were fantastic to work with every time. Very positive customer service experience with these folks. One last thing, some of the huge huge safes are heavy enough to offset the weight of the door when it opens. This is NOT ONE OF THOSE SAFES. It feels very substantial and secure for what it is (a safe in this price range ain't gonna be a bank vault, y'all), but my point is that you MUST MUST MUST bolt it down! When the door swings open the whole unit becomes unstable and will likely fall on you. I bolted mine down the first day I got it and it feels nice and stable and more secure than I would have expected for this price point. Good safe. Good price. Recommended.

Oh that's a good point about the shipping. This is delivered via freight carrier on a pallet. I think when they call you they warn you that the driver will basically just pull it off the truck and then you're responsible for it after that. In my case the driver pulled it to right outside my front door on the pallet jack. Honestly I've had a lot of things delivered via freight carrier and I've never had a driver that was a hard-fast stickler for the rules -- they'll pull stuff into my garage or whatever (just not in the house). Anyway with the safe I have an oversized hand truck dolly thing that I used to get it inside from the front door. The bottom of the safe is flat and finished the same as the sides and top so if you have carpet it is very easy to slide it around after you get it off the pallet. I moved it around and got it in place by myself with no trouble.

OhRob said:   A huge plus:
FREE SHIPPING!
Having it delivered is a helluba lot nicer than hauling it home myself!

I believe if you read the small print, it is curbside shipping. A truck will drop it on the street and it is up to you to move it from there. Maybe you could make your own deal with the driver, but Costco doesn't promise to get it into your home.

Here's a YouTube video about gun safes for the interests. Very educational in my opinion.
Gun Safes "The Truth"

My driver was nice enough to drag it into the garage. I had to unpack it and get it in from there. This is a really nice safe. Think twice about putting it up stairs. I had to re-attach most of my treads on my wooden stairs.

i wish people would pay the hundred dollars to have this moved to proper location. i no longer answer my phone regardless of status because i am not moving these things anymore.

Acme said:    It feels very substantial and secure for what it is (a safe in this price range ain't gonna be a bank vault, y'all), but my point is that you MUST MUST MUST bolt it down!

that sucks for me, since my home is a post tension slab (with specific instructions stamped into the concrete - DO NOT CUT CORE OR DRILL) I cannot bolt it down for fear of doing some real structural damage.

I wanted to put in my 2 cents worth to agree with Acme and what dougtaylor1 said. I bought this same safe during Costco's last sale. It took the FULL amount of time to be delivered (about 6 weeks from order date). My delivery guy was the same way - dropped it on my front porch - would not move it one foot further. I have a heavy duty dolly and (as I am a big guy) thought my wife and I could move it into the house (over about a 6-inch ledge into the house - no way. We truly nearly hurt ourselves trying. Ended up paying 3 yard-workers across the street $20 to move it into the house. As mentioned, once out of its' packaging and on carpet, it was easy to move around.

Also as mentioned, when empty, the door is so heavy it acts like it will tip over - scary, but as dougtaylor mentioned, once full of guns and a couple of cans of ammo at the bottom is rock solid. I realize it will not keep a dedicated burglar with a torch or cutting wheel out for long, but it will deter the average guy with a pry bar, which I wanted...and it does provide some fire protection as well. It doesn't come close to holding the number of guns claimed, but none of them do. I have 6 long guns and a bunch of handguns in mine. Set up without the shelving on one side, you could probably get 12 (or maybe 14) total long guns. I have been well pleased with it.

Saw comments somewhere that the door can be detached and that would take off 1/2 of the weight. Should help out big time with moving it around.

jimk59 said:   Bought the larger Bighorn last month for $899 delivered. I did pay 2 pros to move the monster into the basement and bolt it down. Took them an hour and a half. Well worth the money so consider that before you try to do it yourself. It arrived about 2 weeks after ordering. They will call with a delivery window before coming out. Great safes for the money and also consider bolting it into a corner with the wall on the left side of the safe. It will keep crooks from using a long pry bar to get into it.

Just curious how much you spent on the pros to move it into the basement and bolt it down.

dougtaylor1 said:   yeah03 said:   Saw comments somewhere that the door can be detached and that would take off 1/2 of the weight. Should help out big time with moving it around.

I saw that, too. Couldn't figure out how it could be removed, so I got five big guys on it to get it up the stairs. As I previously mentioned, this #400 safe is not optimal to put anywhere up or down stairs. It can be done, but plan ahead.

In case people are wondering how to get the door off - typically you open the door half way and lift up. External hinges are not for security purposes they are there to allow the door to swing open/close, the bolts keeps he door from opening when locked.

This is a glorified cabinet with very minimal fire protection. On average a house fire lasts an hour, so depending where you live (distance from fire department) with only half an hour fire protection (the safe was tested in an oven not a fire) your contents might be destroyed.

yeah03 said:   Saw comments somewhere that the door can be detached and that would take off 1/2 of the weight. Should help out big time with moving it around.

Yes, I can confirm it does come off, but I think it's more like a 25% reduction. The door weighs about 100lbs. You merely open the door and lift it straight up - very simple assuming you have the physical strength or help to do it.

I rented an appliance hand truck at the local equipment rental store to move it upstairs. A friend and I did that and it was pretty tough. Having a third person would have been safer. Also, the rubber tracks on the back of the appliance cart left marks in the carpet. The marks came out, but it might have been better to cover the stairs with something first, like an old towel. If you have carpeted floors, it'll slide on the carpet with no issues.

yeah03 said:   Watch this. One pro moves 800-lbs safe upstairs with the right equipment.

I checked every rental place in town for one of those. Even tried to convince one place they needed to buy one for rentals since apparently they "get a lot of people in who want to move safes up / down stairs".

jimk59 said:   EdMcK515 said:   jimk59 said:   Bought the larger Bighorn last month for $899 delivered. I did pay 2 pros to move the monster into the basement and bolt it down. Took them an hour and a half. Well worth the money so consider that before you try to do it yourself. It arrived about 2 weeks after ordering. They will call with a delivery window before coming out. Great safes for the money and also consider bolting it into a corner with the wall on the left side of the safe. It will keep crooks from using a long pry bar to get into it.

Just curious how much you spent on the pros to move it into the basement and bolt it down.

$200 which included $50 to bolt it down. Call some safe dealers, they have crews that move and install for them.

Thanks, I'll look into. Might be worth the money to save the hassle.

This is a great safe to keep the kids away from your guns. If you remove the shelves, it will hold two kids.

jlbmw2002 said:   Is this a Made in China safe?

Yes it is made in China. Bighorn is the economy line of Rhino safes.