•500 Sandstorm™ 12 gauge pump-action, 6-round capacity, 18-1/2” barrel, bead sight, desert camo finish •Desert camo floating synthetic carrying-tube with nylon shoulder strap. •Tube includes a heavy-duty synthetic seal, factory tested to be air-tight and waterproof to a minimum of 17psi or 40’ when properly installed •Gun lock •Swivel studs •Owner’s manual •Contents packaged in heavy-duty re-sealable bag
Impact Guns is notorious for not having them in stock and not communicating shipping times. :-/
biglittle
Senior Member - 3K
posted: Jan. 7, 2013 @ 8:57a
The black is always cheaper. That's why this is a deal.
starcastic
Member
posted: Jan. 7, 2013 @ 11:04a
The black one only comes with the standard soft case, the camo version includes the waterproof (but also pretty bulky) plastic tube carrying case.
Craig
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jan. 7, 2013 @ 3:01p
Instead of investing in the pretty paint job on this model one may be better served by spending a little more on the Mossberg 590-A1. This is the version built to military specifications including a better barrel, better mag tube, beefed up metal parts, plus a military grade parkerized finish.
biglittle said: The black is always cheaper. That's why this is a deal.
aerotive
Serene Member
posted: Jan. 8, 2013 @ 5:49p
Craig said: Instead of investing in the pretty paint job on this model one may be better served by spending a little more on the Mossberg 590-A1. This is the version built to military specifications including a better barrel, better mag tube, beefed up metal parts, plus a military grade parkerized finish.
biglittle said: The black is always cheaper. That's why this is a deal.
Do the changes to the military grade model make firing more reliable? Have an 8-shot, quite long 12-gauge Maverick now and am looking to sell it and get something more maneuverable for home-defense.
quickNdirty
Senior Member - 5K
posted: Jan. 8, 2013 @ 6:38p
The 500 has been around for forever, unless you think you are gonna take it out shooting everyday for the rest of your life I don't think reliability is going to be an issue. To think otherwise is silly IMHO.
usadaytrader
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jan. 8, 2013 @ 6:45p
quickNdirty said: The 500 has been around for forever, unless you think you are gonna take it out shooting everyday for the rest of your life I don't think reliability is going to be an issue. To think otherwise is silly IMHO.
And it has a dual action bars unlike the Rem870. Not to mentioned user servicable extractor repair.
aerotive
Serene Member
posted: Jan. 8, 2013 @ 6:55p
Thanks.
Craig
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jan. 8, 2013 @ 10:25p
There are reasons that the military demands these upgrades. One would expect the upgraded shotgun to be more reliable and to last longer.
aerotive said: Craig said: Instead of investing in the pretty paint job on this model one may be better served by spending a little more on the Mossberg 590-A1. This is the version built to military specifications including a better barrel, better mag tube, beefed up metal parts, plus a military grade parkerized finish.
biglittle said: The black is always cheaper. That's why this is a deal.
Do the changes to the military grade model make firing more reliable? Have an 8-shot, quite long 12-gauge Maverick now and am looking to sell it and get something more maneuverable for home-defense.
tankker001
New Member
posted: Jan. 8, 2013 @ 11:10p
Please do not get this gun in the black soft case. I bought this 5 years ago and was very unhappy. If you look at the picture on impactfirearms site, the soft case will only fit the shotgun if it is "taken apart." That is the dumbest design ever. Nobody keeps their working weapons dissasembled especially for a home defense shotgun. This is the "Just In Case I Need About 10 min To Put My Shotgun Together To Defend Myself Model." Why would you ever buy a shotgun and keep it disassembled for a just in case scenerio?
I dont know if the "sandstorm" case will fit the actual assembled shotgun but if it does, I would buy that even with the extra cost rather then get the cheaper black JIC case that does not fit the shotgun. The barrel sticks out 2 inches from the case. By the way, I have two Mossberg 500 and an older Winchester Defender. Shotguns are great defensive weapons. I just do not like companies making money from poor designs. Wait and later they will have the Just in Case "Zombie" edition for extra $$$$$$.
RedWolfe01
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Jan. 8, 2013 @ 11:26p
Craig said: There are reasons that the military demands these upgrades. One would expect the upgraded shotgun to be more reliable and to last longer.
aerotive said: Craig said: Instead of investing in the pretty paint job on this model one may be better served by spending a little more on the Mossberg 590-A1. This is the version built to military specifications including a better barrel, better mag tube, beefed up metal parts, plus a military grade parkerized finish.
biglittle said: The black is always cheaper. That's why this is a deal.
Do the changes to the military grade model make firing more reliable? Have an 8-shot, quite long 12-gauge Maverick now and am looking to sell it and get something more maneuverable for home-defense.
If you go out and shoot it everyday, and in desert/arctic environments... and/or have to train a lot of idiots who have never shot a gun in their lives how to shoot and maintain it... then the military kit is for you. For the person that shoots once in a blue moon and for whom it is a last ditch defensive weapon any decent shotgun will work.
The military has very different priorities than most people, so just because they need the ability to add a NV system or want to be able to store a cleaning system in the butt of a weapon -- or want to shoot a special hot load that would not work in an OTS solution does NOT mean you need to.
My current 12ga in home was my dads.. and $80 20 years ago. Its ugly, lighty rusty and I would be ashamed of it at most ranges. For home defense it works just fine. Plus as a bonus if I DO have to use it then I don't lose much if they want it for evidence. (look up "Noble" model 60 pump - its older than I am)
I suppose someday I will get a newer 12ga, but its not a priority.
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