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cdru
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posted: Aug. 19, 2004 @ 9:10a
Yes, it's widely accepted that 16x will be the limit for burning. At 16x the dvd is spinning at ~10,000 rpm, any faster and the dvd starts to oscillate uncontrollably, thereby creating writing errors. While solutions are currently being developed, most people in the industry doubt that they'll ever go beyond 16x while keeping the cost at an acceptable level.And I remember hearing the same thing about CD-Rs a long time ago. It was something like "15x is the tops that the drive can spin the CD. Any faster and the disc will fall apart." Yet we now have 52x CD-ROM drives (72x if you count Kenwood's drive).
Where their is a will, there is a way.
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HappyNothing
- Frivolous Member
posted: Aug. 19, 2004 @ 9:35a
cdru said: Yes, it's widely accepted that 16x will be the limit for burning. At 16x the dvd is spinning at ~10,000 rpm, any faster and the dvd starts to oscillate uncontrollably, thereby creating writing errors. While solutions are currently being developed, most people in the industry doubt that they'll ever go beyond 16x while keeping the cost at an acceptable level.And I remember hearing the same thing about CD-Rs a long time ago. It was something like "15x is the tops that the drive can spin the CD. Any faster and the disc will fall apart." Yet we now have 52x CD-ROM drives (72x if you count Kenwood's drive).
Where their is a will, there is a way.
I've never heard the 15x story for cd-rom's, but I have heard that the hardware limit is 52x. I've actually seen videos of cd's higher than 52x breaking apart. The reason kenwood was able to get to 72x is because it would read up to five lines of data at one time. You will most likely never see a burner write more than one line at a time in the near future.
All I was saying is that from the evidence shown, dvd burners will be stuck at 16x for quite some time. |
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markish
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Aug. 19, 2004 @ 10:13a
I would jump on this..... EXCEPT THERE'RE NO FREAKKING DL MEDIAS TO BURN !!!! $15/disc???? ARGGGG, the waiting continues.... |
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sloth911
- Cranky Member
posted: Aug. 19, 2004 @ 10:33a
I was under the impression (mistaken?) that you can use standard DVD-R media to burn a dual layer disc.
Is that true/false? |
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Littledump
- Member
posted: Aug. 19, 2004 @ 10:41a
LOL. If you can get that to work you are a god. Unfortunately the answer is false. |
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SildenCitrate
- Senior Member
posted: Aug. 19, 2004 @ 10:48a
reckner77 said:I was under the impression (mistaken?) that you can use standard DVD-R media to burn a dual layer disc.
Is that true/false?
you can hack the DVD burner (nec2500a->2510a) to burn dual layer disks but no it is not yet possible to burn single layer media as dual layer media. |
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mrmzytplk
- Greedy Member
posted: Aug. 19, 2004 @ 11:36a
SildenCitrate said:reckner77 said:I was under the impression (mistaken?) that you can use standard DVD-R media to burn a dual layer disc.
Is that true/false?
you can hack the DVD burner (nec2500a->2510a) to burn dual layer disks but no it is not yet possible to burn single layer media as dual layer media.
You will NEVER be able to burn single layer as dual layer. |
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ToHellWithUGA
- Tired Member
posted: Aug. 19, 2004 @ 11:54a
mrmzytplk said:SildenCitrate said:reckner77 said:I was under the impression (mistaken?) that you can use standard DVD-R media to burn a dual layer disc.
Is that true/false?
you can hack the DVD burner (nec2500a->2510a) to burn dual layer disks but no it is not yet possible to burn single layer media as dual layer media.
You will NEVER be able to burn single layer as dual layer.What if you glued 2 of them together?  |
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staceyanna
- Thrifty Member
posted: Aug. 19, 2004 @ 12:04p
I dont know what all this talk about hacking is about, I just want to know if this drive can burn DVD-R/RW and DVD+R/RW independantly. I currently have a DVD+RW burner and from what I know it can only use DVD-R/RW media and I weant one that does both. I dont care about dual layer at this point. Can someone please fill me in? Thanks.  |
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omniviper
- Senior Member - 4K
posted: Aug. 19, 2004 @ 12:13p
what's the model number of your writer? What does it say on the box? What does it say in windows. That should help you out with your problem. |
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staceyanna
- Thrifty Member
posted: Aug. 19, 2004 @ 12:21p
I already know what my drive is, I was referring to the drive that is being discussed in the topic title. Can it burn to DVD+R/RWs and DVD-R/RWs? |
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jnr1
- Thrifty Member
posted: Aug. 19, 2004 @ 12:25p
Full Specifications: Write Speed: 16X DVD+R, 4X DVD+RW, 4X DVD+R9, 16X DVD-R, 4X DVD-RW, 48X CD-R, 24X CD-RW
16X DVD+R 16X DVD-R
Its right there in the ops original post. |
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Wellcome
- Member
posted: Aug. 19, 2004 @ 12:34p
ToHellWithUGA said:mrmzytplk said:SildenCitrate said:reckner77 said:I was under the impression (mistaken?) that you can use standard DVD-R media to burn a dual layer disc.
Is that true/false?
you can hack the DVD burner (nec2500a->2510a) to burn dual layer disks but no it is not yet possible to burn single layer media as dual layer media.
You will NEVER be able to burn single layer as dual layer.What if you glued 2 of them together?  Back to back only Somebody already did that, called D10. |
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pimpc
- Broke Member
posted: Aug. 19, 2004 @ 12:40p
I never understood the concept of coming out w/ a dvd burner w/o at least dropping the price on the medias of current medias first? ...but I guess that's the marketing gimick for you..  |
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RWLA
- Broke Member
posted: Aug. 19, 2004 @ 12:56p
pimpc said:I never understood the concept of coming out w/ a dvd burner w/o at least dropping the price on the medias of current medias first? ...but I guess that's the marketing gimick for you.. 
By the time we all can afford the 16x media, this drive will be free after rebate |
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deusxmachina
- Member
posted: Aug. 19, 2004 @ 12:59p
KanJuice said:aargh When will I buy my DVD burner.. as soon as I decide on getting one, they bring out a faster one.. Now as soon as I decide to buy this one.. they will come out with 32x for 90 bucks.. and I am back to square one.. aarghh..
Hehe, unless you plan on paying for 16x discs anytime soon, just grab one of the $50-or-less ones and have at it. I got the KHypermedia BenQ 800A from an Office Max deal last month, grabbed some cheapie 1x-2x discs from shop4tech that all burn at 2.4x, and I've barely touched a cd-r since. 8x DVD certainly isn't slow, if I were to pay the extra for the faster media. Thanks to an under-$50 burner and cheapies from shop4tech, along with cd-r deals getting harder to find, for me, it didn't make $-sense to *not* get a DVD burner. shop4tech's prices are what really sealed the deal. |
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waruwaru
- Senior Member
posted: Aug. 19, 2004 @ 2:52p
One of the review says that burning a disk at 16x takes 7 mins... While using an 8x burner, it took 6 mins... Heh. |
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GnatGoSplat
- Senior Member - 1K
posted: Aug. 19, 2004 @ 4:02p
What the heck, I'm in. I'd been chugging along with a reliable 4x Liteon, but have been wanting to upgrade for awhile. Turns out this is $1 less shipped than I paid for my 4x Liteon from Newegg 9-months ago so I figure why not.
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timriley12
- Senior Member
posted: Aug. 19, 2004 @ 4:49p
Does anyone know if this burner support the ability to change the booktype (ie. change the bitsetting) to DVD-ROM format? This is one huge reason I absolutely hate my Sony DRU510 writer... Sony (as well as NEC I believe) have refused to release their bitsetting abilities (unlike HP and Ricoh in the past).. I need the DVD-ROM bitsetting ability to be able to burn more compatible DVDs that will work in my older DVD players. |
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csrx
- Senior Member
posted: Aug. 19, 2004 @ 4:54p
This can be done with the NEC-2510a, but im not sure if you can do it to the 3500a. It's too early to tell, give it a couple of days.
timriley12 said:Does anyone know if this burner support the ability to change the booktype (ie. change the bitsetting) to DVD-ROM format? This is one huge reason I absolutely hate my Sony DRU510 writer... Sony (as well as NEC I believe) have refused to release their bitsetting abilities (unlike HP and Ricoh in the past).. I need the DVD-ROM bitsetting ability to be able to burn more compatible DVDs that will work in my older DVD players. |
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