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fatcool said:How much your net worth has to be to consider for paying that much for an Alarm system.

Why not buy the As on seen on TV 10$ product and hook up all over your gardens and windows.


really its not like the police will come running when the alarm goes off, least not here in Wisconsin! To me this is as cold as the 8" of snow along with the 20 degree temps outside!


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Okay, my house is already prewired for an alarm system. I'm still looking for someone to post a link to a good affordable alarm system that is compatible with this. I don't think I want to go wireless route.


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If your house is worth robbing, wouldn't the theif be smart enough to cut the cable going into your house/cable modem? Or does that trigger an alarm too?
You might want to look at Alarm.com. They use wireless to send the alarm signals so there aren't any cables to be cut. We have it and I really like the way I can know what's happening in the house. It lets you define how to react to different situations.

For example, you can have it send you email, a page or call your cell phone when a sensor is triggered, so you can know when the maid comes in , or if your neighbor is feeding the cat while you're on vacation, etc. Basically it gives you access to what's happening and you can control the responses.

Its not a whole lot cheaper than ADT but it gives you options that ADT & other companies can't. Something to think about if you're in the market for a system or upgrade....

Message edited by: dogbert2521 on 2005-01-06 08:10:39
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Dabadu said:X-10 isn't worth the time, as far as I'm concerned. Constantly changing batteries (system stopped telling me when new ones were needed) and lots of false alarms. Don't bother. If you're going to set up your own system, go hard wired, but then you probably can't get it monitored.
Hey, my city sends me a bill for $25 just for having a monitored system. Plus a charge if too many false alarms. Whats up with that? The police won't come if I don't pay the fee?


I assume you got an X-10 system like this? If the wireless systems are junk, does anybody know of hard-wired system deals (with install) that can be used with the cheap monitoring?


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quickNdirty said:TheDude said:quickNdirty said:fatcool said:How much your net worth has to be to consider for paying that much for an Alarm system.

Why not buy the As on seen on TV 10$ product and hook up all over your gardens and windows.


LOL. What kind of question is that??

Let's see. I have about 10k worth of TV's, 8k worth of musical instruments, 2k worth of home theater gear, 4k worth of computers, probably 6-7k worth of jewelry, etc etc. I also have the smoke detectors for my $240,000 home wired in to my monitored alarm system, to hopefully get the trucks rolling a few minutes faster- I do get a decent discount on my homeowners insurance due to having all of this on a monitored system.

But, I don't think i'd trust the same results from a "as seen on TV" $10 product.

I'm also on ADT, paying $30 a month, and even at that price, it's worth it- but I'd much rather pay less. Thx OP!

QnD
Let's see - I pay my insurance premium. If I'm ripped off of my goods I'm covered. What I primarily look at a home alarm system for is to protect the persons in the house. I have a more restful night sleep knowing that the alarm system is protecting us from anything that goes bump in the night.


You're covered 100% for loss of personal property? Do you have photographs and serial numbers of everything you own locked away somewhere (if you're hoping to get reimbursed you'd better) Even so, if you do have 100% coverage, you're getting shafted on your ins. premiums I'd bet.

As far as protection, I don't need a "monitored" alarm system for that. Just one to make noise. The 9mm and police issue 12ga mossburg under the bed have me covered once I'm awake


Well I know more about this then I care to. Here's the facts:
1. You get approx. 10% premium reduction on your homeowners policy BUT you have to provide a certifcate from the alarm monitoring company showing that your system is monitored...not just a noise maker.
2. Having a security alarm vs not having one can be debated as to the probability of being robbed.
What cannot be debated is that anyone who has a monitored system and does not have a smoke detector wired in is in idiot. Getting your goods stolen and your underwear draw rifled through is a far cry from your house burning to the ground while you were out at Blockbuster figuring out what DVD to watch that night. Point being....it's not all about the security protection it's fire protection too.
3. Alarm monitoring companies are a dime a dozen but the pricing is stable from $20-$35/month for most residential systems assuming you own the equipment. The lease deals seem good on the outside but usually suck when you read the fine print. You need to consider all the variables such as length of stay in residence etc...
3.If the cable or phone line gets cut, the central station should get a "trouble" alarm and go down the appropriate call list or call the local PD...whatever instructions they are prompted that are arranged with the homeowner.
4. Legitimate alarm monitoring companies must be able to show that they are UL listed and approved.
This mandates certain requirements to ensure that their site is secure and "fail safe".


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PeakMaster said:4. Legitimate alarm monitoring companies must be able to show that they are UL listed and approved.
This mandates certain requirements to ensure that their site is secure and "fail safe".
From NextAlarm's FAQ:
Our central stations are UL-Listed, which means they conform to the same standards as many other alarm monitoring services, including those offered by ADT and Brink's
NextAlarm FAQ

Message edited by: jjct1 on 2005-01-06 08:34:01
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Ahh, my area is not supported.


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If you get the alarm to work with VOIP, alarm signals won't make it to the central station if there is a network outage or even a power outage (unless you have some type of radio / cellular backup).


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Pato said:If you own your alarm, nextalarm has manuals (both owners and installation) for many models. The install/programming manuals are hard to find w/o having to pay for them. I tried getting an install manual one from ITI and ADT awhile back and they would not do it.

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Try www.panelguides.com for installation and owner's manuals.

ITI manuals here.

Message edited by: somedaze on 2005-01-06 09:34:41
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Another company that sells alarm equipment + monitoring is www.alarmyourself.com, but it seems targeted towards more advanced diy'ers.


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Great find, OP. I'm going to buy a house to make use of this service.


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quickNdirty said:I also have the smoke detectors for my $240,000 home wired in to my monitored alarm system, to hopefully get the trucks rolling a few minutes faster

It works. Ours went off due to cooking bacon (one set was *really* smoky and we didn't do a good enough job clearing the smoke out of the kitchen) and the trucks were there inside of five minutes.

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Daniel


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What about saveonmyalarm.com. Do you think it is better?
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snarler said:quickNdirty said:I also have the smoke detectors for my $240,000 home wired in to my monitored alarm system, to hopefully get the trucks rolling a few minutes faster

It works. Ours went off due to cooking bacon (one set was *really* smoky and we didn't do a good enough job clearing the smoke out of the kitchen) and the trucks were there inside of five minutes.

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Daniel


I'd also check with your local laws regarding alarm monitoring. Here in NYC, burglar alarms are ok, but for residential (and of course, commercial) fire alarms, you have to submit plans drawn up & then approved by FDNY to have a monitored fire alarm. The FDNY does not like false, "unapproved" fire alarms, and in turn, you won't like it when they "check" your walls to see if there's an actual fire w/their equipment, or, god forbid, you aren't home when they get there...


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wow...that was foolish...now u just advertised your house as a prime target for theft.


quickNdirty said:fatcool said:How much your net worth has to be to consider for paying that much for an Alarm system.

Why not buy the As on seen on TV 10$ product and hook up all over your gardens and windows.


LOL. What kind of question is that??

Let's see. I have about 10k worth of TV's, 8k worth of musical instruments, 2k worth of home theater gear, 4k worth of computers, probably 6-7k worth of jewelry, etc etc. I also have the smoke detectors for my $240,000 home wired in to my monitored alarm system, to hopefully get the trucks rolling a few minutes faster- I do get a decent discount on my homeowners insurance due to having all of this on a monitored system.

But, I don't think i'd trust the same results from a "as seen on TV" $10 product.

I'm also on ADT, paying $30 a month, and even at that price, it's worth it- but I'd much rather pay less. Thx OP!

QnD


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How is anyone going to know where he lives? And why bother with an alarmed house when 90% of the homes have no alarms?

cheapbrass said:wow...that was foolish...now u just advertised your house as a prime target for theft.


quickNdirty said:fatcool said:How much your net worth has to be to consider for paying that much for an Alarm system.

Why not buy the As on seen on TV 10$ product and hook up all over your gardens and windows.


LOL. What kind of question is that??

Let's see. I have about 10k worth of TV's, 8k worth of musical instruments, 2k worth of home theater gear, 4k worth of computers, probably 6-7k worth of jewelry, etc etc. I also have the smoke detectors for my $240,000 home wired in to my monitored alarm system, to hopefully get the trucks rolling a few minutes faster- I do get a decent discount on my homeowners insurance due to having all of this on a monitored system.

But, I don't think i'd trust the same results from a "as seen on TV" $10 product.

I'm also on ADT, paying $30 a month, and even at that price, it's worth it- but I'd much rather pay less. Thx OP!

QnD


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DerProfi said:I haven't tried it myself, but this affiliate link seems to give you the same prices with 3 months free:

http://www.home-technology-store.com/nextalarm.aspx


I asked NextAlarm about this sie, and this is what they said:
"Home Technology Store is the only site which offers a three-month free trial for our services. If you see any others advertising this, they are incorrect. The Home Technology Store offer is intended for HTS customers who purchase a new system from them. However, if you sign up from that site, you will receive a three-month free trial."t


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I bought a house with an alarm. We never got the code from the previous owners. (Why they wouldn't tell us I don't know.) Anyhow my 6-yr old daughter pushed some buttons one day and accidentally set the alarm which went off the next time we opened a door. So it was blaring and I called the company on the security monitoring sign still stuck in our front bushes. We had not subscribed to their service but they told me the code! How secure is that?!?


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I'm especially glad to see a nextalarm thread here as I ordered an alarm and service from them last week. They haven't shipped the system yet but said they would ship this week, so with any luck it will go out tomorrow.

Their customer service has been polite every time I have contacted them and they seem to know what they're doing judging by their responses to me. I'll post a follow-up in the other nextalarm thread here at FW once I have tested their response time a few times.


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unleded said:Great thread. NextAlarm has this offer for a wireless alarm system for $249 with 1-yr free monitoring.
Where exactly does it say 1-yr free monitoring ?


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