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ezflow
- Senior Member
posted: Mar. 10, 2005 @ 8:07a
Well said nsgraham said:Being a recent wife who recently got an engagment ring, I just want to let you guys who DON'T have tons of money to spend:
If the girl the right one for you, it doesn't matter that much.
I mean, get her something, but if she knows your circumstances, she should not be expecting the Hope diamond. My brother-in-law had to have his parents help him get (pay) for his fiancee's ring, and she complained to him about how it wasn't "perfect." Her sister said "Oh, well my ring is going to have two diamonds like your center stone on each side of my center stone." She was a materialistic harpy from a family of materialistic harpies. Guess what, they divorced a year later.
I'm not telling you about my ring, but let's just say that it better than this champange one and not as great as some of the others mentioned here. But I love it because it's the ring he proposed to me with, and because I love him. The ring is just a pretty rock, it's the marriage that counts. |
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stevemilleresq
- Senior Member
posted: Mar. 10, 2005 @ 8:41a
To add my 2 cents, bear this in mind when buying diamonds:
1: the concept of rarity is a only a marketing trick. Diamonds are not rare, neither in terms of mining capacity or diamonds already mined. DeBeers quakes in its boots every time there is a new diamond find and they attempt to buy up the new source to keep control over the market. Also Debeers added the "diamonds are forever" marketing trick to get people to think that because a diamond is a personal token of love, no matter what it should never be sold. This was actually done primarily to avoid the market being flooded with preowned diamonds, sold for cash or so that instead of trading up, people would just buy more. If it happened, with all the diamonds sold over the last 100 years, debeers would be out of business in a minute.
2: The idea that diamonds are a good investment or retain value is also, for the most part false. See #1, above regarding the falsity of rarity. Just try to sell a diamond for what you paid for it. With few exception, you wont even get that, despite a million appraisals to the contrary. Another factor in this is the huge mark up from wholesale to retail. Of course there are many discount outlets, including the internet, but by the time you got to my post, you read many others warning against it because you might get something that was not up to snuff.
3: Don't forget about blood diamonds. Abysmal mining conditions, slave labor, mines controlled by warlords, and the fact that diamonds are used both to fund terrorist organizations and by terrorists as currency.
4: I personally have no objection to buying a diamond or spending a lot of money on one, despite this being said, because it is embedded in our culture as a token of love, and I accept it from that perspective. With that being said, buy only canadian diamonds. At least you wont be supporting debeers or terrorists.
Do the research, you will see that the above is true. |
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cubexco
- Ancient Member
posted: Mar. 10, 2005 @ 8:59a
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GooberedUp
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Mar. 10, 2005 @ 9:13a
TypeEE said:dealhunter999 said:GooberedUp said:10 years ago I bought my wife (my finacee then) an almost 2 carat, E color, VVS2 diamond.
I'd do it again.
3 years back,I bought Tiffany ring VVS1 for my wife and I would do it all over again. I don't know much of diamonds but It looks beautiful on her finger and that is priceless! It's one thing to get a cheap electronics and another to buy a quality stuff.Quality does matter.
I know one day she will pass it on to my daughter and I think it is simply beautiful!
Just a different perspective from a fellow FWer
With a Tiffany label, the cost will be at least double on what it is worth.
True, but if you get some type of multi diamond setup, the Tiffany's diamond matching is superb. We almost pulled the trigger on a Tiffany ring, but ended up going with an acquaintance who is a Belgian Diamond distributor. Great price and great selection and quality. After that, it was impossible to justify the Tiffany ring. That being said, Tiffany diamonds and settings are superb and you can never go wrong with that selection. |
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zacmacdavis
- Member
posted: Mar. 10, 2005 @ 3:25p
Glad to see this horrible deal with great discussion so I could add my experience about buying online. I bought an engagement ring from www.BlueNile.com 6 months ago and had a wonderful experience. I would definitely recommend to everyone. After my research I found that most of the C’s are important but that the most important (assuming it is near colorless H-I or better) is the cut. I got an Ideal cut with Ideal clarity and Ideal symmetry/base and it is amazingly beautiful. The other factors are VS1-2 and H.
The size was .75 carats and because it is cut so well it looks bigger than her friends’ 1 carat rings because it is so clear. I would recommend you get a smaller ring and get all Ideal cuts rather than getting Very Good cuts and a bigger ring. Also, the price was half what any local jewelers could give me for a similar diamond. I went to 4 places and none were within $1000 of Blue Nile’s price. Also, it is GIA certified so you know that the diamond you get is real and graded and they have a 30 day money back for any reason garauntee. How can you go wrong.
Also, pick 3-4 diamonds from their list that are similar and then email them to get a professional comparison and NEVER did they pick the 2 most expensive diamonds out of 4 that I sent in for comparison! When I was even especially narrowing down and got down to my final 2 choices, I asked for a comparison and both of them were H color and they wrote back and said the less expensive (by about $50) was whiter/clearer than the more expensive one so they didn’t think it was worth the extra money! Great place to do business with. Sorry so long winded but I’m wasting time at work.
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DamnoIT
- Senior Member - 4K
posted: Mar. 10, 2005 @ 3:38p
I will sell you chunks of coal for $3.99 and it will look nicer then the crap you are getting here. If you buy this expect to hear NO! get a good slap and a tink as she throws the sucker in the toilet and flushes it down to where it belongs. |
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GooberedUp
- Senior Member - 2K
posted: Mar. 10, 2005 @ 3:40p
DamnoIT said:I will sell you chunks of coal for $3.99 and it will look nicer then the crap you are getting here. If you buy this expect to hear NO! get a good slap and a tink as she throws the sucker in the toilet and flushes it down to where it belongs.
Okay, now tell us what you REALLY think of this deal. |
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Luckylindy
- Senior Member
posted: Mar. 10, 2005 @ 5:12p
Lots of good food for thought in this thread. Opened my eyes to things I did not know. So now I will add my own. Consider this: 50% of first time marriages end in divorce. For second marriages it is closer to 70%. When I got married I would have been willing to spend far more than I did. I couldn't because I was working oversea's and wasn't willing to risk my lack of knowledge buying on the local market. So I bought what was available from AAFES for $700 figuring I would buy something better when I got back to the states. Well I never got around to buying that bigger stone thank god and eight years later we were divorced. Money well saved. |
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