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I did a search and didn't see it mentioned here. The free Frontline thread got me thinking I should post this, as it is a much better deal.

I buy Heartgard and Frontline Plus from Petshed.com. They have far and away the best prices I have seen. They are based in Austrailia, but ship to the US for $5 for the first item, $1 each additional item. Your parents buy their prescriptions from Canada, your dog should get his from Australia!

Frontline Plus for my 70lb dog is $79.99 for a six pack at 1800PetMeds. It is only$43.95 from Pet Shed!

PetShed has a 6 month supply of Heartgard for big dogs for $29.95, or a generic version for $19.95. 1800PetMeds charges $37.99 for the same Heartgard.

Plus PetShed does not require a prescription for HeartGard, like 1800PetMeds does. That saves a lot of hassle.

The stuff I have received from PetShed has always had at least a year before its expiration date.


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RE: PETSHED and FRONTLINE®

Rather than take the word of a small minority of Frontline® purchasers/speculators who either
a) have purchased the product from PetShed and were not pleased
b) are just gun shy to order a product shipped from PetShed (or outside of the U.S.) in the first place
<font color=white style="background-color: #3E3E3E;">READ THIS AND THEN DECIDE . . .

Only one of two things can happen when you purchase from PetShed:
  • The product will work
  • The product will not work

    What will not happen from purchasing from PetShed is your pet becoming ill from product purchased from PetShed . . . <font color=white style="background-color: #3E3E3E;">solely on the specious argument that it came from PetShed.

    At some point I just get sick and tired of the fear mongers manipulating this issue! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif" border=0> I've used Frontline Plus® from PetShed for over two years, and will put the question to you bluntly:
    Why would PetShed continue to get my business if the product wasn't working?
    How could PetShed remain in business if their products weren't working?
    How could PetShed remain in business if their products harmed your pets?

    Do you seriously believe (any) internet-based company marketing product that could harm your pet and/or not work in the first place could remain in business?

    Enough already. Don't take anyone's word if you're that timid <font color=white style="background-color: #3E3E3E;">-- try the product yourself for crying out loud. It will work for you (in which case you'll join the legions of us who order from PetShed regularly, and don't give a toss if the packaging is Australian or Tazmanian and are saving hundreds of dollars each year) -or- it won't work for you -- in which case, you're welcome to join the sturdy band of (American veterinarians or their relations, I increasingly suspect tsk) who will gratefully take the money you are content to throw away.

    I'm putting this in the UPDATE section because I'm sick of revisiting this issue every month when it ought to be apparent by PetShed's abiding success that the one thing they are apparently not doing is selling you watered-down or otherwise counterfeit goods.

    TYTBUDGET

    HOW AM I TO TRY THE PRODUCT MYSELF IF I DON'T HAVE FLEAS??
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    I ordered some from eBay which was made in France and for my cat manufactured in Australia. When I apply FrontLine to my pets, I also treat the yard the day prior to make a whole area treatment.

    My usage of the flea medication from France is that it was NOT as effective as the US equivalent. The date was NOT expired but it had no effect. Package of the product was in foil blister packs which were untampered. The following month I got 1 months supply for the animals from my vet and the fleas were then killed.

    Honestly I don't know if it was a fluke but IMHO the imported versions did not work as well as the US formulations. I couldn't see anything on the package that would indicate any different, but it didnt work as expected. Just FYI.

    dennisfranz said: [Q]I ordered some from eBay which was made in France and for my cat manufactured in Australia. When I apply FrontLine to my pets, I also treat the yard the day prior to make a whole area treatment.

    My usage of the flea medication from France is that it was NOT as effective as the US equivalent. The date was NOT expired but it had no effect. Package of the product was in foil blister packs which were untampered. The following month I got 1 months supply for the animals from my vet and the fleas were then killed.

    Honestly I don't know if it was a fluke but IMHO the imported versions did not work as well as the US formulations. I couldn't see anything on the package that would indicate any different, but it didnt work as expected. Just FYI.

    Possibly counterfeit: Counterfeit Advantage
    Counterfeit Frontline

    Since my wife is a vet I'll toss in my .02 here.

    I caution anyone from purchasing these products. They are uncontrolled and as stated, often don't work.

    You don't take meds from other countries for yourself. Don't do it to your dog/cat.

    Thanks for the information on conterfeit Frontline.

    I have previously ordered Frontline from PetShed and it comes in Australian packaging. I wouldn't trust it, not after I have seen all of those 'specials' on TV about counterfeit pet meds. Not to mention it is shipped from Australia also. In this case so what if you spend a few bucks more. If counterfeit, it could have some serious hazards for your pet. Definitely not worth saving a few bucks. If you wouldn't risk it on yourself, then don't risk it on your pet.

    If you have a vet they will probably match PetShed's price. After our vet found out we weren't ordering through them anymore, they told us to bring a printout in and they would match it.

    I have purchased from PetShed for years now... I am allergic to fleas and just cannot have them around. My dog is a 90 pound Rottie - 6 years old, an outside dog, and he has never had fleas. This stuff comes in it's regular packaging, from the "Bayer" company, the same ones who make it here in the USA. It has been hashed over and over on other forums about the counterfeit issue, these products are NOT the counterfeit ones. Now, if you would buy them at eBay, that is another story. What PetShed sells is the same product you buy here in the USA, what I personally buy is "Advantage". Just that the Bayer company lists it in kilograms instead of pounds for Australia. Buy from whoever you want, that's a personal choice, but, these products are fine. The only 'issue' is that in the USA you are required to have a prescription, but, one is not needed in Australia.


    Pet Shed is an Australian business. All products supplied by Pet Shed are registered with the Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines Authority (APVMA) and are available for purchase in Australia without prescription. Further details can be obtained on www.apvma.gov.au/pubcris/subpage_pubcris.shtml.

    Regulatory requirements differ between countries. The products supplied by Pet Shed may not be approved for sale in your country by the relevant regulatory authorities or may not be approved for sale in their Australian packaging. While the products supplied by Pet Shed may be supplied in Australia without prescription, a prescription may be required in your country. For example, in the USA, some of the products supplied by Pet Shed may not have received the approval for sale of the FDA, EPA and/or other regulatory bodies. Some products may require a prescription from a vet.

    Pet Shed recommends that you check with the regulatory authorities in your country and/or your vet if you have any queries and to ensure that it is legal for you to purchase our products.


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Direct from the PetShed site:

    Product Disclaimer
    Advantage® has been approved for sale in Australia by the APVMA. The U.S.A. equivalent of this product has been approved for sale by the EPA.

    Both the Australian and U.S.A. products contain the same active ingredient, Imidacloprid.

    However, the products sold by Pet Shed are sold in Australian packaging which has not been approved for sale in the U.S.A. As a consequence, the Australian packaging does not have EPA approval and the sale and purchase of products in the Australian packaging may be illegal in the U.S.A.

    I have been buying Frontline Plus for my cats out of Australia for the last few years and have had no problems with it. As far as I can tell even the inside packaging is identical to US bought Frontline Plus, right down to the weird shaped pipettes used. The last batch came off of eBay but was packaged exactly the same. If our 1 outdoor cat ends up with ticks then I will know why.

    Here is better information on frontline counterfeit. Link

    Drugstore.com has them on sale this week with free shipping. Link. 6.6% Cash Back.

    I too would discourage buying medications from you or your pets from unknown sources on eBay. I would also discourage buying from certain overseas countries, and unreputable sellers. PetShed, however, is the real deal. As SennyChar mentioned the only difference is on the outside packaging the weights are listed in kilograms instead of pounds.

    Reading Merial's press release about "counterfeit" Frontline makes it seem pretty clear to me that the stuff is hardly "counterfeit" (why does Merial put that word in quotes nearly every time they use it). It is simply not packaged for use in the USA.

    Here is the answer to one of the questions on the page:

    What are the potential concerns of counterfeit-packaged FRONTLINE product?

    * The label may not have the proper usage statements.
    * The label may not reflect the proper dosage and weight requirements of the pet.
    * The label may have confusing instructions regarding the dosage and weight of the pet because it uses the metric system rather than conventional US measurements.
    * The label may not reflect Merial’s special toll-free number in place for customers to call with questions about FRONTLINE products.

    In other words they think we are too stupid to know to use it once a month and too stupid to convert kilograms to pounds. Even though the color of the packaging is the same as the US version., If you use the brown box of the US stuff, the brown box of the "counterfeit" stuff is the same dose for the same weight animal.

    Merial makes no claims whatsoever about the product itself not being legitimate.

    It is the same BS we hear about the dangers of buying drugs from Canada but in that case they make the bogus claim that the medicine may not be the same. Here they don't even make that claim, they just call it "counterfeit" to scare us even though it is the same stuff.


    mwheeleror, thanks for the post.
    I've been to Australia and I am confident that it is not a counterfeit country. It's the real deal. Everyone should see the movie Babe.

    It's amazing how effective FUD "Fear Uncertainty & Doubt" are. That having been said, I, too, would not buy meds off E-Bay. (Inkjet carts yes, but meds no.) But a legit mail order pharmcy is OK, whether in Canada or Australia. (Neither country knows how to spell, but I won't hold that against them.)

    It's interesting to note that neither counterfeit link really rxplains what a counterfeit drug is. All of these companies are global enterprises. Bayer is German, for instance.

    woodfrag said: [Q]Since my wife is a vet I'll toss in my .02 here.

    I caution anyone from purchasing these products. They are uncontrolled and as stated, often don't work.

    You don't take meds from other countries for yourself. Don't do it to your dog/cat.

    What does "uncontrolled" mean?
    What makes us think that the Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines Authority (APVMA) is ineffective?
    Also, don't forget that all Advantage products are from another country. They're originally from Germany. (Boo hiss BMWs and all that.)

    I've been using Pet Shed for awhile, and have always received excellent service and what appears to be genuine product. Plus, we moved to a home a few years ago with tons of fleas outdoors. We have two outdoor dogs and now have NO fleas whatsoever. I for one am comfortable with their company and products.

    i've always gotten my pet meds from entirelypets.com. free shipping with 100 dollar purchase, so I just order both the heartguard and frontline at the same time. easily over 100 bucks. if you search the net, there are usually coupons too, like 3 or 5 bucks off. i've found these guys to be the cheapest, with good fast service (they verify prescriptions quickly), and fast shipping.
    my 2 cents.

    dennisfranz said: [Q]I ordered some from eBay which was made in France and for my cat manufactured in Australia. .

    Just curious - what process do those Aussies use to manufacture cats?

    Thanks OP! I just ordered $100 worth of stuff for the cat & dog. They're outside all day chasing deer & rabbits in the woods. Figured it's worth a try!

    NightShadow

    Have posted this before, but I have two dogs...one large one small, my vet gave me larger dosage which I split between the two. She gave me a syringe and told me each dosage...big savings...

    There was a similar post last year, (the last time I needed to replenish the supply), and someone posted http://fleaclub.com/.

    If price is a bigger concern for you, they had/have the best prices I've been able to find. I bought from them and have had no problems, probably will buy the next year's worth from them again.

    Now to find the best deal on Heartgard.

    lousygolfer said: [Q]dennisfranz said: [Q]I ordered some from eBay which was made in France and for my cat manufactured in Australia. .

    Just curious - what process do those Aussies use to manufacture cats?

    LOL

    Hi, this is the first time I write so please bare with me that I am late in catching up. I bought frontline plus from petshet and eBay. The eBay I bought it from "fleashop" through paypal (the only method). My dog acted out when I applied the frontline plus on him. I tried to contact the seller about it but noticed the seller was no longer registered. The seller had good business so I read through the feedback to try to figure out why. One of the negative feedback pointed out their product was fake. I couldn't get the seller to tell me their return address for a refund. Tired to mediate it with paypal but was not yet successful because I did not return the product, there was no refund. Anyway, I agree that it's not worthy to save a few dollars and put our pets at risk. Entire pets/Healthy pets seem to be reasonable priced so I now buy it from them.





    mwheeleror said: [Q]I did a search and didn't see it mentioned here. The free Frontline thread got me thinking I should post this, as it is a much better deal.

    I buy Heartgard and Frontline Plus from Petshed.com. They have far and away the best prices I have seen. They are based in Austrailia, but ship to the US for $5 for the first item, $1 each additional item. Your parents buy their prescriptions from Canada, your dog should get his from Australia!

    Frontline Plus for my 70lb dog is $79.99 for a six pack at 1800PetMeds. It is only$43.95 from Pet Shed!

    PetShed has a 6 month supply of Heartgard for big dogs for $29.95, or a generic version for $19.95. 1800PetMeds charges $37.99 for the same Heartgard.

    Plus PetShed does not require a prescription for HeartGard, like 1800PetMeds does. That saves a lot of hassle.

    The stuff I have received from PetShed has always had at least a year before its expiration date.


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    Jun6 said: [Q]I bought frontline plus from petshet and eBay. The eBay I bought it from "fleashop" through paypal (the only method). My dog acted out when I applied the frontline plus on him.
    Please help me understand.
    You bought from Petshed and from eBayer Fleashop. Is that right?
    The Fleashop product caused you problems.
    How did your dog react to the Petshed product?

    Illegal in many circumstances and almost certainly counterfeit. Even if you do get legit meds, you could kill your pet by giving them the wrong dosage - how familiar are you with the metric system?!

    p.s. PetShed has now been reported to the FDA and EPA. Hopefully some other FWers consider their pets safety and health more important than saving a few $ and will do the same. I like a good deal as much as the rest of you but I won't allow saving a few $ to jeopardize the health and safety of my family - and pets are part of the family.

    420 said: [Q]- how familiar are you with the metric system?!
    If you take any Chemistry classes they make you use the metric system.
    Ounces and grains left the scientific scene a long time ago.

    The metric system? 2.2 pounds equals 1 kilogram. Pretty simple. But even if you don't know this, PetShed does and lists the dosages in pounds.

    Reding the Merial page about "counterfeit" Frontline it is abundantly clear the product is real, they only claim the packaging is "counterfeit", and only because it is not packaged for the US market. It is packaged by Merial for the Australian market where they use the metric system.

    It is also pretty clear that the makers of Frontline orignally designed the dosages in the metric system. My dog is 67 pounds, so he gets the Frontline for dogs 44 to 88 pounds. Pretty unusual numbers (especially considering the broad range of weights for a single dose) until you realize this is 20 to 40 kilograms, then they are nice round numbers.

    mwheeleror said: [Q]The metric system? 2.2 pounds equals 1 kilogram. Pretty simple. But even if you don't know this, PetShed does and lists the dosages in pounds.

    Reding the Merial page about "counterfeit" Frontline it is abundantly clear the product is real, they only claim the packaging is "counterfeit", and only because it is not packaged for the US market. It is packaged by Merial for the Australian market where they use the metric system.

    It is also pretty clear that the makers of Frontline orignally designed the dosages in the metric system. My dog is 67 pounds, so he gets the Frontline for dogs 44 to 88 pounds. Pretty unusual numbers (especially considering the broad range of weights for a single dose) until you realize this is 20 to 40 kilograms, then they are nice round numbers.


    I'll be getting Frontline after PetShed as well.

    420 said: [Q]I'll be getting Frontline after PetShed as well.

    And you say I'm an ***. What's your problem? And why do you mark this deal dead when it is still very much alive (as is my dog!)? Rate it negative (as you did) if you don't like it, but it is not dead.

    How do you feel about people buying their medications fram Canada? How many of them have died from the drugs being bad? Would you prefer them not getting the medications at all because they can't afford the overinflated prices of US medicine.

    My dog is diabetic. I have to spend about $200 per month keeping him alive and maintaining his quality of life (and that is with a lot of shiopping around for the best deals). Why should I pay twice as much for the exact same flea and heartworm medicine than I have to? The medicine is the same, Merial says so on their page about "counterfeit" Frontline.

    I'm not encouraging anyone who is uncomfortable with this to buy this. If you are more comfortable buying from your vet, you should certainly do that. If you want to save 50% by buying overseas this is an option which I have had good experience with and is likely less risky than buying on eBay.

    420 said: [Q]Il almost certainly counterfeit....
    I won't allow saving a few $ to jeopardize the health and safety of my family - and pets are part of the family.
    I can understand how domestic sources can be counterfeit.
    But are you concerned that the Petshed product is also counterfeit?
    (I'm referring to the product, not the packaging.)

    Is the source of the jeapardy the classification of size of pet or are there some other concerns?

    OP, I think that your thread is very valuable.

    How does one recussitate a thread that has been declared dead?

    420 said: [Q]how familiar are you with the metric system?!

    You doin't need familiarity with the mysterious metric system. PetShed lists animal weights in both kilograms and pounds.

    Furthermore the makers of Frontline and Heartgard are nice enough to color code their packaging, and use the same colored packaging overseas as they do here for the corresponding dose. So even if I don't know the conversion from kg to pounds, and don't want to bother looking it up, and don't even want to read the PetShed description where it lists the animals weight in pounds, I can just know my dog uses the purple box of Frontline and the brown box of Heartgard and I will get the right dose everytime. How familiar are you with colors?

    kmith said: [Q]OP, I think that your thread is very valuable.

    How does one recussitate a thread that has been declared dead?

    Thanks. The thread is still considered alive. It needs multiple "dead" votes (I don't know how many) before it will be considered dead. You can rate it positive by clicking the plus sign in the top right corner of the first post. Right now the thread has four positives, and two negatives, giving it a rating of 0 (apparently negatives hold more weight).

    mwheeleror said: [Q]420 said: [Q]how familiar are you with the metric system?!

    You doin't need familiarity with the mysterious metric system. PetShed lists animal weights in both kilograms and pounds.

    Furthermore the makers of Frontline and Heartgard are nice enough to color code their packaging, and use the same colored packaging overseas as they do here for the corresponding dose. So even if I don't know the conversion from kg to pounds, and don't want to bother looking it up, and don't even want to read the PetShed description where it lists the animals weight in pounds, I can just know my dog uses the purple box of Frontline and the brown box of Heartgard and I will get the right dose everytime. How familiar are you with colors?


    However, these products were not likely manufactured by Merial so you are missing the point. PetMeds were fined $10,000 by the EPA not too long ago for pulling the same scam as PetShed. Look it up if you're doubtful. You can also read the official statement by Merial on these shady and usually illegal business practices here:

    http://www.frontline.com/epa/

    kmith said: [Q]420 said: [Q]Il almost certainly counterfeit....
    I won't allow saving a few $ to jeopardize the health and safety of my family - and pets are part of the family.
    I can understand how domestic sources can be counterfeit.
    But are you concerned that the Petshed product is also counterfeit?
    (I'm referring to the product, not the packaging.)

    Is the source of the jeapardy the classification of size of pet or are there some other concerns?


    Check Merial's site in regards to counterfeit products as a start. Secondly, notice the disclaimer stating that it may not be legal for users in the US to purchase these drugs overseas. There is no "may" about it. PetMeds was fined $10,000 by the EPA not too long ago for exactly the same thing as PetShed is doing (I stated this already). Also, try to use some common sense. You do have counterfeit packaging with a legitimate product. If one os counterfeit, both are. A better facsimile doesn't make something the real thing.

    The source of the product or the conversion is not what entirely concerns me. The truth is, many people do not realize the weights are metric so that is 1 issue. Indeed anyone can convert if they realize. There is also the issue that the product may be and typically is counterfeit. What gets me is that when advertised like this, people who don't know any better will go ahead and order this product and could potentially end up with a sick or dead animal. If you want to self medicate yourself with drugs from Mexico or Sri Lanka, so be it - but pets take whatever you give them.

    I do a lot of charity work for my local vet and SPCA so I am very familiar with what is legal and ilegal regarding sales of these products, as well as the dangers associated with them. We also have taken in more pets than you can imagine so I realize the expenses associated with taking care of a pet. One of our pets is also indeed diabetic, though I can't see what that has to do with Frontline or other flea & tick products. Humlin L by the way runs about $26 per vial at K-Mart and the needles typically used for pets are available at Wal-Mart for about $12 for 100.

    I wanted to add that people who use the lack of fleas as proof that a product is legit are outright ignorant. Obviously too much of the active ingredient will kill the fleas & ticks but it can also harm or kill your pet. Substitute ingredients, much cheaper to produce, will kill them as well. Take Pyrethrins for example. Pyrethrins are used in a number of OTC fla & tick remedies as well as some of the more expensive remedies. They are also used in lawn care products. However, pyrethrins cause seizures and deaths in numerous animals every year - any knowledgable vet or even vet tech can tell you that.

    Perhaps some are too young or ignorant to get it - if you're going to post something like this, try to have some understanding of what you are proliferating and realize there should be some moral and ethical responsibility when posting.

    Amazon generally has a reseller with non-imported Frontline Plus for 20% off. Right now the Frontline Plus Purple for Dogs 45-88 lbs for 6 months is $52.99 with $4.85 shipping from Absolutly Pets. That's a lot cheaper than my vet sells it for. I decided it was not worth worrying about something harmimg my dog to save less than $2 a month getting imported stuff. Also, she sleeps with me or my son and I don't want us exposed to questionable chemicals, either.

    I volunteer with a rescue group and we used to order from Petshed also. Last year they suspended shipments due to some legal reasons. (Not quite sure about the details) Since we could not get the meds into the country, I did some serious searching.... The best price statewide seems to be California Vet Supply:

    California Vet Supply

    They ship in a flash, and the customer service was very good.


    My vet stopped carrying Frontline last year so I purchased from another Australian company that was posted at another board last summer. I had the same excellent results with the product as I had the ones from my vet. However, after reading this thread and reading the website for Frontline, I really don't want to purchase from there again. So what do I do? I don't want to stop going to this vet just because he doesn't carry Frontline.

    The US websites that carry Frontline, are they legit? I ordered from one of them one time and they charged slightly less than my vet did but I had to pay shipping so it was about the same. How are the US websites able to sell Frontline if it requires a prescription?


    momofteens said: [Q]My vet stopped carrying Frontline last year so I purchased from another Australian company that was posted at another board last summer. I had the same excellent results with the product as I had the ones from my vet. However, after reading this thread and reading the website for Frontline, I really don't want to purchase from there again. So what do I do? I don't want to stop going to this vet just because he doesn't carry Frontline.

    The US websites that carry Frontline, are they legit? I ordered from one of them one time and they charged slightly less than my vet did but I had to pay shipping so it was about the same. How are the US websites able to sell Frontline if it requires a prescription?


    Frontline, along with other flea and tick preventatives like Advantix, doesn't require a perscription, your Vet writes you one to encourage you to but it from them. The heartworm does require a perscription, at least in my state, because if an animal does have heartworm they need to be tested and treated for it before starting the preventative.

    Thanks for the info. I thought a prescription was required but if not, then I am free to purchase online. I just wonder how I know if a US company online is selling the "real thing".

    I really, really hate that my vet stopped carrying this. I feel I have no choice but to purchase online now. The Frontline website said to be safe, to purchase only from your vet but I can't do that. I guess I will just check out some places when I get a chance.

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    spydermonkey,
    I actually ordered from PetShed.

    The +++ reseller ratings for PetShed was the driving factor for my decision.

    I'm saving a ton of money from my local vet.



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