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Lowes are selling this unit for $198.

Big Lots are selling the exact same model for $129.99. They happened to be next door.

Price at lowes is $198 - PM = $117 - 10% coupon = $105.3 + tax

Easy pricematch and coupon. My coupon was printed from SD, so they said it was used, but a quick manager approval gave me another 10%. Look at SD for PDF. If not just bring expired 10% Home Depot competitors coupon, and they will deduct it. They always have for me.

Its a great heater, just tried it, heated up my cold room in a flash. There is also a cheap fuel for it, Fuel Oil #1, which is around $0.70 per gallon. So it would cost to heat 1300 cubic feet room around $5 for 13 hours. Beats electrical heaters.

Description:
Lighted on/off power switch
Heats up 1,280 sq. feet
Built in fuel gauge
Thermostatically controlled to conserve fuel
Runs 12 hours on a full 5 gallon fuel tank
Uses low cost kerosene, #1/#2 diesel & fuel oil, JP8 or Jet A fuel
Patented HSI smart ignition control system
Made in the USA

Review: 4.5/5

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Alot cheaper than kerosene!!

Looks like a great price.

Is this something that you would use inside a house?

I thought these where for garages, ect?

If you want to live you better keep it out of the house...

These are definately not for the house, but would be good for warehouse or large garage.

feeth said: [Q]Looks like a great price.

Is this something that you would use inside a house?

I thought these where for garages, ect?
My thoughts exactly.. I saw this (or a near identical item) at Home Depot and thought to myself, "Gee, I wonder if I should buy a CO detector (Carbon Monoxide) to go with it?"

feeth said: [Q]Looks like a great price.

Is this something that you would use inside a house?

I thought these where for garages, ect?

If you want to die from the fumes, you can use it in the house. Use it once and save on fuel for the rest of your life.

ab2650 said: [Q]feeth said: [Q]Looks like a great price.

Is this something that you would use inside a house?

I thought these where for garages, ect?
My thoughts exactly.. I saw this (or a near identical item) at Home Depot and thought to myself, "Gee, I wonder if I should buy a CO detector (Carbon Monoxide) to go with it?"

If you look at the owners manual, they give you warnings about how much fresh air that should be "piped" into the room.


yeah make sure its outdoors

Absolutely ....

Burning Kero might not be too bad, but #1 or #2 fuel is definately bad...

Not to mention 5 gallons in 12 hours is alot of fuel...

Great deal for a great heater for the garage/workshop. Thanks!

Thanks for letting people know the danger.
I am afraid we are going to hear a lot of bad news due to people just trying to survive the winter.

I think there are additives that you can put in the fuel to eliminate the smell from kero.

My brother in law uses one of these for his (BIG) garage during Maryland winters. Very effective, but definately not for indoor use. For starters, the only thing separating the flame from rest of environment is a mesh grill. And it did give off a Kerosene smell. However, once it was running, it heated up a 2000 square foot garage in less than half an hour.

These are not anything like conventional heaters that you would use to heat your living quarters, dorm room, apartment or otherwise. These are more of a utility for contractors, individuals heating a very large garage, warehouse, shop. We used several of these, when we were constructing our house last winter when hanging and mudding drywall, pouring concrete in the garage floor and painting to raise the temperature in an unfinished house. Aside from fuel spilled on the floor they do put off a strong odor from from the fuel being burned. If you buy one without a thermostat they are easy to add.

Very good deal! Not sure if the local Lowes will price match without an ad. I'll check. Thanks OP!

libuser said: [Q]
Its a great heater, just tried it, heated up my cold room in a flash. There is also a cheap fuel for it, Fuel Oil #1, which is around $0.70 per gallon. So it would cost to heat 1300 cubic feet room around $5 for 13 hours. Beats electrical heaters.

Beyond all the dangers of using this indoors, $5 for 13 hours of heating isn't that great either. A 1500 watt heater around here would only cost like 12 cents an hour to run. (Bit less than 8 cents a kilowatt here in Minneapolis area I think) You could run 1 heater for 41 hours, 2 for 20, 3 for 13 for $5.

that 1.5kW heater is probably 10 000 BTU, and will have a very hard time to warm that room for 5 minutes. Maybe for the 1st hour yeah

gamebeaross said: [Q]libuser said: [Q]
Its a great heater, just tried it, heated up my cold room in a flash. There is also a cheap fuel for it, Fuel Oil #1, which is around $0.70 per gallon. So it would cost to heat 1300 cubic feet room around $5 for 13 hours. Beats electrical heaters.

Beyond all the dangers of using this indoors, $5 for 13 hours of heating isn't that great either. A 1500 watt heater around here would only cost like 12 cents an hour to run. (Bit less than 8 cents a kilowatt here in Minneapolis area I think) You could run 1 heater for 41 hours, 2 for 20, 3 for 13 for $5.

Nice find OP w/ the PM.
Didn't realize the one at BigLots wasn't 'refurbished'.

Now, where can you find #1 Fuel Oil for $0.70 per gallon?
Kero is over $2 and I didn't know about the fuel oil option.

A 1500 watt electric heater is about 5000 BTU. (I think 5500 to be exact, but not sure) Electric heat is always 100% efficicient since no heat goes up the chimney. Any brand electric heater, no matter the cost, will put out the same amount of heat per watt. Almost all portable electric heaters are 1500 watt. I researched this when trying to heat a frozen basement to pour a concrete floor. At the time, in my area, (MI) electric cost about 75% more per BTU than natural gas, and kerosene was about the same. This was based on an 80% efficient nat gas heater. I got tired of crawling in the window with kerosene cans, so I hooked a temporary 50,000 btu nat gas garage heater. During construction, we use a similar heater to the one in post. It is definitely not for house use. Very noisy like a jet engine, smelly, and hot.
They are meant to heat something like a garage in 15 minutes. Many of the newer ones will shut down if there is not sufficient ventilation, due to lack of oxygen. They make small heaters that arent vented and run on nat gas that are more room size. They claim to be safe indoors when used properly. They create a little CO but they deplete the oxygen also.

good question. You have to find a local supplier. Keep in mind that that is a price based on volume purchasing, meaning that you have to buy at least a barrel to get it for that price.

Every major city has a few companies that deliver those fuels. Just google, and you will find them.

Disadvantage, more fumes, but cheaper. Great cost for auto garages.

jason243 said: [Q]Nice find OP w/ the PM.
Didn't realize the one at BigLots wasn't 'refurbished'.

Now, where can you find #1 Fuel Oil for $0.70 per gallon?
Kero is over $2 and I didn't know about the fuel oil option.

Thanks for the info OP.
I just hope I don't have to drive to a major city, that'll kill any savings I could have <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border=0>
I'll call around in the morning.
I use a similar heater once or twice per week in the garage.
Kero has been my fuel but I'd be happy to buy a barrel of #1oil if I can save enough.
Those tiny electric heaters just cannot do the job like these jet fired butt burners!

This is a salamander style heater.

It is for construction sites and ventilated buildings.

It is not intended for residential use.

That would be a recipe for disaster.

I'm a weekend mechanic in the frigid Midwest. I have a 1.5 car garage that I'd like to be able to work in over the winter. The garage has a window in it. I imagine my garage is too small for the ventilation this model needs. Does anyone have a suggestion, other than electric heat, for a heater for this garage? I'm wondering if there is something designed to be vented out the window in the garage.
TIA, Jeff

Slightly OT, but any recommendation as to indoor heaters that are efficient?

1500w heaters may all be 5500 BTU, but they certainly do not heat up the room equally. Some are better than others heating up the room.

Any recommendation would be appreciated.

I remember some one mention there is a tax break if buy energy star appliance after Jan 1, 2006.
Any body have a link?


Thanks

has anyone else found this heater at Big Lots??

Energy Conversions

1KW of Electricity has 3413 btu
1 gallon of Kerosene has 140,000 btu

90% efficient Kerosene Heater (140k x .9 = 126k btu delivered heat/gal)
100% efficient electric Heater (3413 btu/kw)

10c kw is equivalent of $3.70 / gal kerosene
alternatively
$2.00 gal kerosene is equivalent of 5.5c kw electricity

numbers rounded

Of course, there's a price for hauling Kerosene and high output electric heaters require high amperage duty 220V circuits.







ByteByte said: [Q]I remember some one mention there is a tax break if buy energy star appliance after Jan 1, 2006.
Any body have a link?
HERE??

IN YOUR HOME:

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Consumers can receive a credit of up to 30% of the cost, or up to $2,000, for installing solar-powered hot-water systems used exclusively for purposes other than heating swimming pools and hot tubs.
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Consumers can receive tax credits up to $500 on the amount they spend to upgrade thermostats, to caulk leaks, or to stop energy waste.
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Consumers can receive up to $200 credit for installation of new exterior windows.
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Consumers can receive up to $300 credit for purchases of a highly efficient central air conditioner, heat pump or water heater.
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Consumers can receive up to $150 for installation of a highly efficient furnace or boiler.
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A new provision provides a 10% investment tax credit for expenditures with respect to improvements to building envelope.
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Allows credits for purchases of advanced main air circulating fans, natural gas, propane, or oil furnaces or hot water boilers, and other qualified energy efficient property.
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Tax credits for contractors who build energy-efficient homes and manufacturers who make energy-efficient appliances could lower prices for consumers.
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Consumers can also receive a tax credit for solar photovoltaics (PVs), similar to the solar hot water credits, with a $2000 cap. These two can be used in tandem for a total of $4000 credit maximum.



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