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Not a hot deal for all, but, if you have ever slept on a heavenly bed from one of these hotels then you know how amazing they are - made by Simmons exclusively for this hotel chain. These never go on sale so I purchased a Queen mattress for $875-$175 = $700 + no charge for shipping

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If you think the Heavenly beds are nice you really should check out the Foam Mattress post. You can build a queen size Temper Pedic type mattress for well under $500 and it will beat the heavenly bed hands down. I've owned a select comfort, stayed at westins for many years now (frequent buisness traveller) and now I own a memory foam mattress that I built myself.

All are nice, but the memory foam is the best. GL.


just an fyi, but w hotels do not use the heavenly bed. its a westin specific brand. that said, it is entirely possible that w uses the identical mattress. for an answer to thta you shoudl check over at flyertalk.


that may be all well and good but convincing the wife otherwise is a whole other matter... those westin hotel beds are amazing.

keats76 said: If you think the Heavenly beds are nice you really should check out the Foam Mattress post. You can build a queen size Temper Pedic type mattress for well under $500 and it will beat the heavenly bed hands down. I've owned a select comfort, stayed at westins for many years now (frequent buisness traveller) and now I own a memory foam mattress that I built myself.

All are nice, but the memory foam is the best. GL.


wuhoo said: just an fyi, but w hotels do not use the heavenly bed. its a westin specific brand. that said, it is entirely possible that w uses the identical mattress. for an answer to thta you shoudl check over at flyertalk.

They are the same according to the CSR I ordered from


Are they just selling the mattress and we use our own boxspring?? Or are they selling boxsprings as well because I didn't see boxspring listed?


This is a great deal - thanks OP! Do you know if they charge sales tax?


I was not charged sales tax here in Texas


bokchim said: that may be all well and good but convincing the wife otherwise is a whole other matter... those westin hotel beds are amazing.

keats76 said: If you think the Heavenly beds are nice you really should check out the Foam Mattress post. You can build a queen size Temper Pedic type mattress for well under $500 and it will beat the heavenly bed hands down. I've owned a select comfort, stayed at westins for many years now (frequent buisness traveller) and now I own a memory foam mattress that I built myself.

All are nice, but the memory foam is the best. GL.


It's a matter of opinion. I've tried the Temper Pedic beds and do not like them at all. I own a Select Comfort and it's the least comfortable bed I've ever slept on (just don't get all the rave reviews, the thing is nothing more than a couple of Kmart beach rafts with a plastic frame and foam padding). My wife & I slept on the Heavenly bed at the Westin in NY and in our opinion it was leaps above the other two or any other bed we had ever slept on. If this deal is the same Westin bedding then this is very tempting as we are ready to be rid of the horrible Select Comfort.

Has anyone verified it is the same as the Westin?

UPDATE - WHotels site does link to Starwood Hotels Site, and Westin is a Starwood Hotel, so maybe....Actually I think the Westin Heavenly Bed is specifically the pillowtop King.

That said, the King pillowtop matress set list for 1650 on Whotels site and with 20% discount it is 1320 with free shipping. The equivalent King set on Westin site list for only 1450, but no 20% off and it says to call for shipping costs. So with higher list price I'd call this a good deal but not a great one.


This is my first post so hopefully it is helpful.

I did some more research. The pillow top version according to the WHotelstore is the Heavenly Bed. According to the CSR even though they are all StarPoint properties, Westin has a trademark on the name "Heavenly Bed" so WHotelstore has to call it something else. When I pressed on some of the small difference like Westin saying it is 13" and the W site says 12.5" they gave a Starpoint hotline to Simmons. I spoke with a Simmons rep there and she confirmed the same thing that the pillowtop version is the same as the Heavenly Bed.

I'm still not sure why there is such a price gap between the W store and the Westin store but it is significant. $1320 delivered at W Store and $1625 delivered at the Westin store for me in Washington DC. We are going to Nordstrom to try one out since my wife has slept on one before. But it seems like a pretty good deal when you consider I get to avoid the annoying bed sales people and I've slept on one many times before.

Thanks OP


I went ahead and ordered the Queen pillowtop version for $860 - Great deal! I did some research online and apparently the W bed is preferred by all the people that reviewed both the W and the Westin - so if there is a difference it is the W one that is better, if not, you're getting the heavenly bed cheaper from the W store Thank YOU OP!


Anyone know of a simmons model that is close, for those of us without a Westin near us to try.


I have no idea how to assess value in bedding. Is this an OBJECTIVELY good deal? How much should a good queen size mattress cost?

I got my bed from Costco about 10 years ago for about $300. It is a Sealey, I believe. I haven't been sleeping well lately and would like to blame my mattress.


Hotel Beds Really Can Be the Stuff of Dreams W and Westin use different models of custom-made Simmons mattresses and box springs that you can buy by contacting the hotels. Interestingly, top-rated W's queen set, priced at $700 for sale to customers, costs less than either Westin's ($1,100) or Ritz-Carlton's ($1,149, custom-made by Sealy). But W really puts out for the duvet/comforter, at $280 for a queen, more than Ritz-Carlton or Westin.


JakeTheSnake said: Are they just selling the mattress and we use our own boxspring?? Or are they selling boxsprings as well because I didn't see boxspring listed?

the item above the mattress is the "set" - with boxspring. it's only $100 more for the queen ($975 v. $875 for mattress only).

For that price minus 20%, absolutely worth it!

What Costco sells is lower end - Sealy makes great premium mattresses also but the one they sell through Costco is a more basic model (but not junk by any means).


From the above article:

But beds are not all about dollars and cents. Of 87 chains in the Market Metrix survey, the luxury W Hotels and Ritz-Carlton ranked first and second, scoring 98 and 91, respectively. Westin, in the second-tier "upscale" category, was a close third at 90, outperforming its class. Among the five lowest-rated chains for beds were midpriced Ramada and Howard Johnson.


So there may be a difference afterall, and it says the W is better than the Westin, but it costs less?!?

lawguy said: I have no idea how to assess value in bedding. Is this an OBJECTIVELY good deal? How much should a good queen size mattress cost?

I think its a good deal because hotels test 1000s of different types of mattresses for durability, comfort, etc. I don't think individual buyers would have the resources to be able to test mattresses this extensively. What they finally chose has to be one of the best since their reputation depends on it.


pfitzger said: We are going to Nordstrom to try one out since my wife has slept on one before.

The beds are on display at Nordstroms?

Also, the site says "ALL MATTRESS SALES ARE FINAL-NO REFUNDS OR EXCHANGES" does this make anyone nervous?


Hehe... the mattresses are used!

No, just kidding. Seems like all the mattresses are going on sale @ Macys, Nordstroms, etc.

I would suggest going to a sleep's and trying a similar coiled Simmons and then deciding. I was Sleepy's today and the equivalent 850 coil queen plush top was $1700.

whoDean said: pfitzger said: We are going to Nordstrom to try one out since my wife has slept on one before.

The beds are on display at Nordstroms?

Also, the site says "ALL MATTRESS SALES ARE FINAL-NO REFUNDS OR EXCHANGES" does this make anyone nervous?


Yes, the mattresses are available at Nordstroms. At least the "Heavenly Bed" is. There still seems to be some debate over the difference between the W and the Westin versions. I called the one at Tysons Corner in Virginia to make sure. Haven't had a chance to go down there yet but once we do hopefully it will give my wife peace of mind to make the choice.

I have slept on these before and they are comfortable. I just remember how painful it was last time we bought a bed and how difficult it was to try and make comparisions between stores. The whole thing felt like a conspiracy to keep margins high. Normally I research things extensively before making large purchase decisions. But, from my point of view knowing that I have personally slept on this many nights before at hotels and the research for comfort and durability the hotel has done for me and finally the fact I don't have to deal with the obnoxious bed buying ordeal is more than enough to make me feel comfortable.


can someone tell me what the difference is between this simmons mattress at WalMart and the W bed? They seem virtually identical and the WalMart bed is less expensive- even with tax and shipping.

http://www.WalMart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3428424&dept=4044&path=0%3A4044%3A103150%3A96942%3A97104


Link for the sleepy ones


frnak said: can someone tell me what the difference is between this simmons mattress at WalMart and the W bed? They seem virtually identical and the WalMart bed is less expensive- even with tax and shipping.

http://www.WalMart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3428424&dept=4044&path=0%3A4044%3A103150%3A96942%3A97104


Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents on the Tempurpedic mattresses. Yes, they are very expensive. Yes, they initially are amazing; I stopped tossing and turning and barely moved all night. BIG downside- they REALLY soften in about 4 years (both hubbie and myself are thin, btw). Their "wonderful" warranty: WORTHLESS. The warranty covers depression, but the mattress doesn't depress much- unless you actually apply pressure and then it virtually collapses, even making a cellophany type noise. When it softens the back pain it creates is awful; I woke up with severe sacro-iliac joint pain every morning for 2 weeks. Literally from the next day, as soon as I replaced the bad over a year ago I have not had any pain. So- I would think long and hard about paying a couple of grand for a bed that will literally disintegrate within 4 years. Despite multiple attempts I was not able to get any consideration from the company either (and I am never one to let things slide, but ultimately waking up pain free was more important so we basically ate it).


You couldn't link it for the same reason I couldn't link it. You have to cut and past the link into your browser. But it really seems like this is the same Simmons mattress. at walmert.

http://www.WalMart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3428424&dept=4044&path=0%3A4044%3A103150%3A96942%3A97104

bhupeshm said: Link for the sleepy ones


frnak said: can someone tell me what the difference is between this simmons mattress at WalMart and the W bed? They seem virtually identical and the WalMart bed is less expensive- even with tax and shipping.

http://www.WalMart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3428424&dept=4044&path=0%3A4044%3A103150%3A96942%3A97104


Yeah, link didn't work.

I did a project at Starwood Hotels (Sheraton, Westin, W, St. Regis) and they really do have exclusive deals with the mattress companies to create something different and improved over the similar coil version.

Yes, the amount of coils are the same but the cloth and the foam and padding will be different enough to notice. But it raises a good question of buying it from WalMart because its similar enough and you have a way of returning it.


Nice find OP. Thanks!


Thanks OP, I bought the King pillowtop after trying it out at the local Westin


whoDean said: Thanks OP, I bought the King pillowtop after trying it out at the local Westin

Erm, but the sale is on the W Bed and the Westin has the Heavenly Bed. Or are you just figuring it's close enough?


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For those of you looking for that ultimate "hotel" feel....

I just got back from staying at the W Chicago for a few nights and investigated my bed. The down pillows and comforter were made by a company called "Pacific Coast." Coincidentally enough, they sell this brand at Linens N' Things so I'm going to go check it out and see about buying some with the LNT 20% coupon.


Sorry keats76, but Byron and Shakespeare would both disagree...

The foam queen sized Temper Pedic mattresses are hot - literally.

The foam does not breath. It gots hotter and hotter and cause many people to sweat. Also they start to compress over time.

I'll stick with a conventional anytime.

This is a great deal.

The IrateConsumer


keats76 said: If you think the Heavenly beds are nice you really should check out the Foam Mattress post. You can build a queen size Temper Pedic type mattress for well under $500 and it will beat the heavenly bed hands down. I've owned a select comfort, stayed at westins for many years now (frequent buisness traveller) and now I own a memory foam mattress that I built myself.

All are nice, but the memory foam is the best. GL.


For those who have slept on them whats your impressions?

I called simmons and the lady told me that the W bed is a cross with the coil count of a normal beautyrest but the rest of the materials are similar to the beautyrest worldclass line. I'm going to check out those 2 today and see what they feel like. I may just go ahead as $940 with free shipping and no tax is cheaper then any cal king I can get retail here.


I'm still not sure if the sale item is really Heavenly Bed? Can any one give more info. to confirm that?
Thx.


I received my Queen Pillowtop W bed last night and first impression is that its great!


When I try to order a Queen Pillow Top Mattress Only, the price I get is $1,075.00 and not $860.00. Please let me know what I do wrong. Thanks.


kiramarod said: When I try to order a Queen Pillow Top Mattress Only, the price I get is $1,075.00 and not $860.00. Please let me know what I do wrong. Thanks.Did you apply the 20% coupon at checkout?


As I understood it, the starting price should be $875-$175(20%) = $700 + no charge for shipping. OP posting. Is my understang correct? Thank you.


kiramarod said: As I understood it, the starting price should be $875-$175(20%) = $700 + no charge for shipping. OP posting. Is my understang correct? Thank you.The prices shown in the OP were for the plush top not the pillow top.


gugumomo1 said: I'm still not sure if the sale item is really Heavenly Bed? Can any one give more info. to confirm that?
Thx.


It is *not*. It is the W Bed, NOT the Heavenly Bed.


Is this just the mattress with no box spring???


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heyeaglefn said: Valiegirl said: We bought the pillowtop from Whotelsthestore.com in August '07 and hate it. We both wake up with sore shoulders or hip bones.
I am suprised you would continue to sleep on it for over a year if you hate it...

Because I can't afford a new one! But two weeks ago I bought the 3" Novaform mattress topper from Costco and it has made a world of difference! Now in the summer it may be too hot, but for now it is wonderful!




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