While the CRAZY deal is apparently dead moving forward, I wanted to chime in that I thought the AVR7100 was a STEAL at $800...now it's $700...and the AVR7120 at $1000 is still a pretty good deal...though I understand the contrast effect sucks.
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First off, thanks for the green everyone. This is my first post and it's been fun. Thanks also for all the critical discussion. There's a lot of food-for-thought in everyone's posts.
Availability: 1) OneCall has confirmed ordering AVR7120s (Thanks OZ and EButash) and that they are, indeed liquidating BA receiver stock. I had already hear about a similar order for the AVR71200...don't know why they have them priced the same... 2) Boston Acoustics Sales confirmed with me that the product is discontinued but they have stock and are filling the OneCall order. 3) no ETA on the arrival, but good to know they're on their way!
Model Info: 1) It looks like the AVR7120 is a repainted and packaged Sherman Newcastle R-965 (MSRP$1999) 2) luckily it's also gotten good reviews, too. Who knows if BA asked them to tweak it at all? ...but you'd have to assume not. 3) Downsides: a) no DVI or HDMI, b) bass management even on analog inputs (relevant to external devices with >2 analog channel inputs). There are debates regarding the relative advantages of component vs. DVI/HDMI.
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What? It's true!
I had been dragging my feet on picking up the $2200 AVR7100 @ $800...well, technically, my wife was HELPING them drag...
Well, being the wonderful woman she is, she gave in and POOF the $3000 AVR7120 showed up on the site for the same $800! Wasn't there hours earlier...thanks to her, I'm getting the better one.
Anyway, Boston Acoustics was acquired by D&M holdings (Denon and Marantz) and it looks like they're no longer going to be in the receiver game (these were their first 2 ever).
Here's the link for the receivers: http://www.OneCall.com/ProductSearch.aspx?sHist=12-125%2c6-15&menu=true
Here's a review of the AVR7120 in Home Theater Magazine: http://www.hometheatermag.com/completesystems/705boston/
Amazing. Thanks to Butash for twisting my arm to post.
I appears that this unit converts Multi Channel Analog (SACD, DVD-A) to digital before going back through analog and routing through speakers. If your multi-channel source already converts to ananlog (which is how most work), then you would not want to go back to digital in the audio path of the receiver.
I suppose you're right. If HDMI switching is your priority, you should look elsewhere. The other downs sides are the automatic A/D for the pre-amp in (as mentioned in the other gentleman's post) and that the ergonomics are apparently not so hot. The A/D conversion could be a bad thing or not, depending on the quality of the source unit.
At the same time, the AVR-3806 is a 38.6 lb $1300 receiver with mixed reviews. This is a 60 lb $3000 receiver with a stellar review.
You may want to look at the Onkyo units, too. I've loved my TX-SV919THX that I'm replacing.
Rob form OneCall stated that their order of 140 units are on their way! I expect they could be shipping as early as next week!
GREAT FIND MACHAN!
....all men should have wives that give in on a "one-time purchase" high quality A/V Equipment...we do with all their "yearly" clothes/shoes purchases...
I called early this morning and they weren't open yet. I asked them to call me through their web site. Also, I spoke to a real live person who answered the phone on Saturday who was able to verify that they had ordered 140 or so from Boston Acoustics. The other propmising aspect is that the AVR7120 wasn't even on thier web site until last night and all of a suddon appeared at that price. I think D&M is liquidating the BA receiver stock.
I actually read through their (D&M) financial statements and business plans presentation stuff on their "Investor's Relations". There's no mention of Boston Acoustics with anything but speakers. I get the impression their cleaning house on receivers. These were, afterall, their first and with Marantz, Denon, & McIntosh line-ups what need is there for BA receivers.
Who fixes this now that BA is bowing out? I see they have an extended warranty at one call, but it looks like you may have to send this 60# monster in for service if needed. I only mention because my experience has not been great with high end stuff in the past.
I read about a lot of firmware issues on the boards with the Sherwood. I can't find any firmware updates on BA for this. Does it just run out of the box with no future upgrades/updates?
Is everyone ok with this based on the clearance and no longer manuf. issue?
I got bad experience with receiver too! Took an HK receiver into for service, they messed it up even more but HK was willing to replace from the factory. They paid for S/H both ways. I am not convince that $800 is a good price. The MSRP is marked up at least 5X. I can't convince myself to fork over $850 and worry about service or s/h back to OneCall.
I chatted with OneCall about the AVR7120. I guess they requested 150 of them.
Holley: Hello, this is Holley who am I speaking with today? Customer: This is oz. Holley: Hi oz. How may I help you? Customer: I'm looking at part #26575 - a Boston Acoustics AVR7120 receiver Holley: Okay. Customer: Do you know if you will get some in stock. Are they really on order? Holley: I am checking on that. Just a moment... Holley: Are you there? Customer: yes Holley: Okay. I thought I lost you. Sorry. Customer: no problem Holley: We do have them on order, but we are not quite sure when Boston will deliver them to us. We have not had any updates yet. Customer: Do you know how many you have on order? Holley: We have requested a total of 150 units, but are not sure how many we will get on the first delivery.
Great deal! There are a few issues involving the firmware on the Sherwood/Newcastle R-965, they are still being resolved. I say this because the Boston Acoustic Receivers are essentially the same as the Sherwood/Newcastle receivers. They are outsourced by Sherwood/Newcastle and were rebadged as BA equipment. There has not been a lot of disccussion about the BA receivers over at AVSForum, however there are many topics on the Sherwood/Newcastle receivers which seem to be popular. I'm not sure how realistic the MSRP is on these BA receivers as their nearly identical twins are priced as follows: Sherwood/Newcastle R-965 MSRP 1999.95 There are not many retailers selling either of the R-965 & BA AVR7120, take it for what it is. I'm sure it is a decent receiver I just would'nt put the valued savings at 2k plus.
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I expect they could be shipping as early as next week!
