undefined said:politix said:great news. and i'm VERY excited about the "not interested" feature

...now could you bring back the grocery coupon forum? (hey, i tried!!)

And For Sale / For Trade (while we're at it)

Green for both ideas

munasmom said:Wow, I'm really impressed how fast the FW team responded to its members concerns. I am also impressed by the way that, after they changed the system for the wrong reasons and in the wrong way, they then slapped together another bad system, all without any input, discussion, or real explanation.

My impression being, how amazing they don't understand FW and FWers after all this time.

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Date Posted: Sep/13/2006 5:45 PM
Any of you ever been to www.newgrounds.com?

It's a flash animation site. Has nothing to do with hot deals, but...

They have a rating system for their flash movies.

1. The more you vote, the more rating power you get.
2. You are remembered as a good/neutral/bad voter (shows whether most of your votes are high or low).
3. Your voting power is also based on how you vote comparted to others. For example, if a movie has a 4.5/5 rating with 10000 votes, and you give it a 0 out of 5, and you do this consistently, your negatives will start to have less weight.

I'm sure some of that could be borrowed and implemented here.

This is still the best idea.

Good decision!

Thanks. Happy Happy Day!

Good decision!

Thank you for bringing back the old rating system. As I joked last night, would you replace the traffic light with stars?

As a programmer, I have to say that the whole boost/star thing was the worst decision ever made. It's not like changing the css template of the site. The new rating system changes the way people use this site and it's bad. It changes the fundamental way members decide which deal is good and which deal is bad.

There are lots of stuffs needed to be fixed on Fatwallet.
We still don't have a good search engine and there are also some features that we wanted for so long.
Can you guys fix the https/http link problem so it doesn't bring me to paypal?
Can you guys add auto linking feature so I don't have to copy and paste the link?
Can you guys add PM friends list so I can turn on my PM without receiving spam from newbie asking me what is dealpass?
...

I guess this suggestion was made by some business ananlyst who has no idea how people use FW. The same reason why we needed some fancy green design.

However, there are good reasons for FW to get rid of the red. I am sure there are sponsors complaining about the red rating that they always get. It's not good for a company's image when a thread is rated red. Pretty sure TD hates the Red bar system.

Keep in mind. It's the content and the members make the FW big. There is always SD + Ebates if FW decided to go against the majority. Do you wonder why most of the deals are now originated from SD?

Btw, people complain because they care. FW should be glad that people complain instead of leaving quietly. There were some senior members over-reacting and got banned. I hope they will be unbanned.

dancestoblue said:Have you implemented a way to stop members who only vote negative, or members who are interested in 'hiding' good deals through using negative votes?Good question. There is one user that floats through the forums spreading red everywhere for no valid reason other than to fill some hole in his life. Many know exactly who that is. Looks like he will be back in business, since the staff is doing nothing to correct the behavior.

I'm glad you learned your lesson and have realized that yes, sometimes our input beforehand is very important. Thank you for realizing the error of your ways.

brenticusmaximus said:from this post

Date Posted: Sep/13/2006 5:45 PM
Any of you ever been to www.newgrounds.com?

It's a flash animation site. Has nothing to do with hot deals, but...

They have a rating system for their flash movies.

1. The more you vote, the more rating power you get.
2. You are remembered as a good/neutral/bad voter (shows whether most of your votes are high or low).
3. Your voting power is also based on how you vote comparted to others. For example, if a movie has a 4.5/5 rating with 10000 votes, and you give it a 0 out of 5, and you do this consistently, your negatives will start to have less weight.

I'm sure some of that could be borrowed and implemented here.

This is still the best idea and would make all-negative contributers such as RightHere meaningless.

People can counter all this easily and make no sense to implement it.
Example,
1) that mean you just need to make meaningless vote all the time. Actually hurt the voting sytem
2) so all that means is you have to vote green as much as you vote red. So RightHere just need to make meaningless green on meaningless post to get himself back to neutral. Also going to hurt the voting system
3) make no sense. Some expert that really pay attention to that item know it is not a good deal but a bunch of new member think it is good deal. So 5 vote green (all new member) and 1 vote red (senior member that know the price of this item very well). That why the expert voting power is affected by the newbie?
And how about people see a thread that's already all GREEN and they just just in to GREEN it just so they can gain back the voting power??? Too many way to work around this.

I think 1 vote for each member is the best. It is simple to understand and each of us as a community can easily self regulate. Making unnecessary change like this will just let the people know how to take advantage of it misuse it.

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