This is Canon's successor to the very popular PIXMA IP4200. Canon makes fantastic printers, and doesn't completely rip you on ink. I just bought this printer for $90 last week. It's only been on the market for a few weeks, so to find such a good deal on it is pretty hot. FYI Newegg now has this for $95 shipped.
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As mentioned above, I have this printer and for the price it is excellent. Great output, speedy, very lightweight drivers (unlike HP), and automatic duplex printing. $70 shipped for such a new model is a great deal. Wish I had held out a week, I could've saved myself $20.
I bought the Canon mp830 AIO printer for $250 shipped last week. Canons are awesome printers. Also, these CAN print CD's DVD's all you have to do is buy the tray (eBay), and change the printer's settings. Cd/DVD printing is standard on european models.
strooperman
Member
posted: Sep. 28, 2006 @ 8:07p
Very nice deal. I just bought the same printer lsat week from Newegg for $90 and change. Grumble...
Interesting printer. Like most of the Pixmas, it can do duplex printing. Plus, with two input trays, it can hold two different kinds of paper. This one doesn't have memory card slots (and hence no preview LCD either). Uses 5 ink cartridges, including two different kinds of black ink. I assume one is for photos, the other for text.
Brendon said: This is Canon's successor to the very popular PIXMA IP4200. Canon makes fantastic printers, and doesn't completely rip you on ink.
The Buy dot com site says this printer uses the BCI 3E cartridge, which is indeed one that is available in generic form. However I think the Buy dot com site is incorrect and it uses the more expensive Canon ink system (CLI-8)that has not yet been copied.
Ink Gurus: What do you think?
sphegdave
Senior Member
posted: Sep. 28, 2006 @ 11:22p
ljderm said: Brendon said: This is Canon's successor to the very popular PIXMA IP4200. Canon makes fantastic printers, and doesn't completely rip you on ink.
The Buy dot com site says this printer uses the BCI 3E cartridge, which is indeed one that is available in generic form. However I think the Buy dot com site is incorrect and it uses the more expensive Canon ink system (CLI-8)that has not yet been copied.
Ink Gurus: What do you think?
It uses the same ink as the 4200 which is the CLI series
spockones
Senior Member
posted: Sep. 29, 2006 @ 9:02a
I have an IP4200. It truly is amazing. One Black catridge for text, one for Photo. The catridges run 12-15 apiece in stores, before using any coupons. I bought it, because with the exception of HP K550, it has cheapest ink cost per page. Canon are the only printer with duplexing, which is very nice. It has a bottom tray and a top load. It prints so much faster than my HP PSC1315, which does remarkable scanning.
I haven't yet hacked printing CDS, but I understand that can be done. Does anyone where to find info on that or tell how to do that?
The project I used was to create 10 school yearbooks, which had 48 pages front and back. I used photo paper that Sams club sells, which says print both sides on box, 200 sheets for $20. The cost for all yearbooks was around $500 and the yearbooks look great.
Ink cost per page was right at 46 cents per each side of paper. Before anyone starts saying that is real expensive, realize that most catridges are rated at 5 percent coverage per page. This was more like 5 percent non covered in photo quality printing. The 46 cents was cheaper by .05 than either Staples or Office Depot, which would not have looked as well, because technically every yearbook is considered a 'original'. This even beat copy centers, who say all pictures have to be scanned in at 300 dpi.
I have scanned in hundreds of pages with the 1315. I use it weekly to make children's church books we pass out on Sunday. It scans in stuff either black and white or in color. I had an old Visioneer scanner which would scan pages in with color dots and you would have to clean it up. Not with this HP. I bought it almost 18 months ago and refill the black catridges 4 to 5 times before taking them to Staples.
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topdown
Member
posted: Sep. 29, 2006 @ 10:52a
RedCelicaGT said: There are external ink "buckets" available. search eBay.
It's called a CIS or continuous ink system and to my knowledge there are not any available for the new chipped Canon's. In fact the refillers are reporting that you can only get away with refilling these for so long and eventually you get an error message (search Steve's Digicams forums).
If you plan on doing a lot of printing I think you're better off buying a used i560, ip3000 or ip4000. Then you can buy good quality generic ink for $2-3 per cartridge instead of $12-15 for the Canon ink required for this model. I'm sure this newer Canon prints a little better, but not enough to justify the higher ink cost in my book.
markrobertssr said: I have an IP4200. It truly is amazing. One Black catridge for text, one for Photo. The catridges run 12-15 apiece in stores, before using any coupons. I bought it, because with the exception of HP K550, it has cheapest ink cost per page. Canon are the only printer with duplexing, which is very nice. It has a bottom tray and a top load. It prints so much faster than my HP PSC1315, which does remarkable scanning.
I haven't yet hacked printing CDS, but I understand that can be done. Does anyone where to find info on that or tell how to do that?
The project I used was to create 10 school yearbooks, which had 48 pages front and back. I used photo paper that Sams club sells, which says print both sides on box, 200 sheets for $20. The cost for all yearbooks was around $500 and the yearbooks look great.
Ink cost per page was right at 46 cents per each side of paper. Before anyone starts saying that is real expensive, realize that most catridges are rated at 5 percent coverage per page. This was more like 5 percent non covered in photo quality printing. The 46 cents was cheaper by .05 than either Staples or Office Depot, which would not have looked as well, because technically every yearbook is considered a 'original'. This even beat copy centers, who say all pictures have to be scanned in at 300 dpi.
Ummm...wouldn't a color laser printer have been faster, and cheaper?!?! Color laser printers are cheap (such as the Samsing CLP-510 at BJ's for $180 AR) and toner costs are *way* cheaper than ink. Also, you wouldn't have had to buy photo paper since laser printers print well on most paper types. Also, the combination of Canon's dye based ink combined with generic photo paper is not a good combination. Supposedly, people have reported that Canon dye based prints fade in about a year, and thats using genuine Canon paper, despite claims of 25 years by Canon. So I'm not sure how long your inkjet yearbooks are going to last.
...I bought it almost 18 months ago and refill the black catridges 4 to 5 times before taking them to Staples. You do know that Staples no longer takes Canon cartridges It is now limited to HP, Lexmark, and Dell cartridges only.
spockones
Senior Member
posted: Sep. 29, 2006 @ 2:05p
rocker86 said:
Ummm...wouldn't a color laser printer have been faster, and cheaper?!?! Color laser printers are cheap (such as the Samsing CLP-510 at BJ's for $180 AR) and toner costs are *way* cheaper than ink.
First, you need to know a bought camarea and printer for $150 minut $30 minutes $15 ink coupons at Staples. This was marked down from $200.
Depends upon setup of laser. You also get into issues of imaging units, three color versum one color, and even brands. I might concede that if other 2,000 pages are printed, a color laster might be cheaper. But I only printed less than 1,000 pages. Most catridges for laser are rated 2,000 - 2500 pages 5 percent coverage, while ink catridges are rated 400-450 pages. Of course, some manufacters cheat that by using slighly small paper.
The IP4200 does duplexing - the yearbooks were printed on both sides of the paper. Mo manuel intervention was required. Most color laster do not have duplexing built in or even available. The less paper handling, the better. You have to have paper lined up just right when you feed back through or it comes up crooked. Plus, you have to print even pages one round and then odd pages the next. You will have twice as many runs as with a printer that does duplexing.
Also, you wouldn't have had to buy photo paper since laser printers print well on most paper types.
Most 'laser' paper types are only coated one side, not both. Those that do both sides tend to be very expensive.
Also, the combination of Canon's dye based ink combined with generic photo paper is not a good combination.
Same answer as above. Most photo paper is not meant to be printed on both sides. Those that are cost around over 50 cents a sheet.
Supposedly, people have reported that Canon dye based prints fade in about a year, and thats using genuine Canon paper, despite claims of 25 years by Canon. So I'm not sure how long your inkjet yearbooks are going to last.
Canon claims these last 100 years. This are the Chromalife 100 years. Nobody else claims close, even thermal and laser. Lots of factors decide on how long yearbooks last, such as temperature, how much sunlight, etc. How many times do you go back and look at your yearbook? Chances are not that much.
How does anyone really know how long photo's last? How long DVD's last? How long CD's? How long hard drives? You just don't know.
You do know that Staples no longer takes Canon cartridges It is now limited to HP, Lexmark, and Dell cartridges only.
The PSC1315 is HP, uses 56 and 57. I know that some Office Depots don't take HP, wasn't aware that Staples doesn't take Canons anymore. Either way, both stores have coupons to take off cost of catridges. A full set of color catridges runs for $50 for all four, easy to find filler to move up to $50 to get $10 off.
We will probably make and print yearbooks again this year. I appreciate any thoughts about cheapest and easiest way to print 1,000 photo quality paper.
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