7200RPM 16MB Buffer 8.5ms Seek Time Designed for 1 million hours MTTF Native command queuing Hot plug, Presence detect Staggered spin-up Asynchronous signal recovery SATA DCO Host-initiated power management RoHS-compliant Five-year limited warranty
Timapian said: Wow, breaks $100 now! No need for such a monster, but very tempting...
True... size is probably not necessary, but this is the flagship of the drives right now. 1 million hours MTBF?? That's like 16 years!! If this is a rebadged Seagate it should be a 7200.10, meaning it also does perpindicular recording. That means that even though it's HUGE it's also FAST.
Just called customer service, confirmed that this is retail kit
gh123
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Apr. 27, 2007 @ 4:23p
michaelkenyon said: You obviously don't do a lot of video editing or DVD authoring Especially now we have HD contents (which eat drive space like crazy) ... Thanks OP!
michaelkenyon said: valleypoboy said: ... size is probably not necessary You obviously don't do a lot of video editing or DVD authoring
If you mean I don't have a Pron studio setup in my front room of my house making videos and posting them to the internet, you're correct. I do "back up" the DVDs I own so the children don't mangle and destroy the originals. This process takes about 4gb per DVD, although the program I currently use deletes the files copied once done. - sorry, I know that was harsh, but COME on!!! For 99% of the people out there 40gb is more than enough, 80 is safe and 160 is HUGE. I've got more seagate drives at home than toilet paper rolls, and I only use 1 drive in my computer (200 or 300, pitiful, but I forget). Recently on my work computer I had to swap out my 40 with an 80 because I was running out of space. I stick to my first comment when talking about a 500GB drive: "size is probably not necessary"
Some interesting comments at the egg about this drive. I can't vouch for their accuracy, but people say it runs hot. Also that this is the last of the 7x series of Maxtor drives that Seagate did away with. Still, with a 5 year warranty you have to figure if you ever need to make a claim they'd replace it with a Seagate
Winterpool
Member
posted: Apr. 27, 2007 @ 4:37p
According to Newegg the 7H500F0 is a MaXLine Pro -- it's doubtful that this is a rebadged Seagate. Though it's quite likely that, as michaelkenyon suggests, a failed drive would result in a modern Seagate replacement, do you really want to risk losing 500 GB of your hard-earned pr0n? Though, to be realistic, the vast majority of these Maxtors are probably going to last about as long as genuine Seagates. But I just can't bring myself to trust Maxtor with that much data...
Also, if this were a retail box, wouldn't the model read something like 'L01blahblah'? I thought all Maxtor retail kits began with an 'L'. But I suppose the Fry's rep wouldn't lie to us, right?
An HD feature is going to comprise tens of GBs when compressed (H.264 MPEG4). If you're actually trying to work with the stuff, I shudder to think how much data it would take up.
Come on free shipping! If you wait until tomorrow, they may offer free shipping. I'll wait.
I have a 300GB version of this same drive and it runs very quiet and maybe a little hot. But as long as you don't have it stacked right next to other drives this shouldn't be a problem.
MaXLine Pros were Maxtor's SATA drives for 'nearline' enterprise storage (analogous to Seagate's 'NL' and 'ES' series drives). This means they actually are intended to archive large quantities of semi-current data (like the older pr0n you rarely now look up). Nearline drives aren't supposed to run 24/7, but they are intended to run more reliably than consumer 'desktop' drives.
Why am I still inclined to prefer a Seagate desktop drive? Someone restore my senses...
Trikat
Senior Member - 2K
posted: Apr. 27, 2007 @ 4:50p
I do not like the Maxtor brand, but this the MaXLine Pro 7 series so it is one of the higher quality drives. Tempted to get it, but will resist as I have plenty of space left and don't see myself filling the free space anytime soon. Anyways these drives run fairly hot so you must have air cooling atleast. And as always run a full "surface scan/test" before you start using it for whatever you want.
Winterpool said: ... do you really want to risk losing 500 GB of your hard-earned pr0n? ... If you're actually trying to work with the stuff, I shudder to think how much data it would take up. I don't like the idea of risking 500GB at all no matter who the mfgr is. Considering video, however, it takes up huge swaths of hard drive space. For that kind of data, say capturing uncompressed video (maybe Huffyuv lossless compression), the amount of disk space you need is outrageous. But only temporarily. As long as you have the original and the end result is burned on DVD then even if the drive crashes hard you haven't really lost anything.
I bought an extra 160GB drive a year ago with the idea that I was going to use it for all my video projects. By the time I got around to starting some of them the drive was half full of other stuff, and 80GB is nothing when you're editing video or mixing hours of CD-quality uncompressed audio together. This drive looks great for that purpose.
cyrax78
Happy Member
posted: Apr. 27, 2007 @ 4:57p
Finally, 500GB drives makes the $0.2/gig mark
BubbleSparkxx
Member
posted: Apr. 27, 2007 @ 5:00p
Naysayers who claim 500 GBs is probably those people who aren't serious about d/l'ing and/or BT'ing. I already have in excess of 1 TB of audio / video that is better off being accessed via a server than thru consumable media - and I am not nearly a hardcore user.
I can't wait for even larger drives to come out - I'm anxious to go ahead and jukebox my 700+ DVDs and put the actual physical copies into storage.
doylnea
Senior Member - 1K
posted: Apr. 27, 2007 @ 5:02p
[Q= said: valleypoboy] I stick to my first comment when talking about a 500GB drive: "size is probably not necessary"
This is a nice drive for those who like to DVR TV series, and don't want to have to delete the episode...</blockquote>
Winterpool
Member
posted: Apr. 27, 2007 @ 5:09p
Okay, for those of you actually concerned about the thermal profile of your hard drives: the MaXLine Pro 500 GB was measured dissipating 14.5 watts when seeking, 9 watts when idle. For comparison, a 250 GB Seagate 7200.9 generation desktop drive dissipated 10.6 watts whilst seeking, 6.7 watts idle. If actual thermal radiation correlates with operating power, the Maxtor may put out 1/3 more heat into the atmosphere (or your well-ventilated computer case -- your case is well-ventilated, no?).
Nearline drives are supposed to sit in big storage arrays in a well-cooled server room. As the name suggests, they aren't 'online' 24/7, instead spinning up only when data that happens to be resident on that particular drive is actually queried. So I suppose their heat output isn't as big of a concern in their intended role. The Seagate nearline drives run only about 1 watt cooler than the Maxtors.
Winterpool said: If actual thermal radiation correlates with operating power, the Maxtor may put out 1/3 more heat into the atmosphere (or your well-ventilated computer case -- your case is well-ventilated, no?). Thanks for this very useful info, winterpool. I have an older P4 3.2GHz machine with a variable speed fan that gets loud when it's cranking. I'm not going to pull the trigger on this deal because I think it would get even louder (not from the disk but from the fan dealing with the higher thermal load). But that's just me and my own personal circumstances. I still think this is a good deal, just not for me.
One of the features of this drive is "Staggered spin-up". I wasn't familiar with that term but it sounds right in line with your description of how these drives were meant to be used (if I had to guess).
MrJacques
New Member
posted: Apr. 27, 2007 @ 8:06p
This is a seriously good price.
IMHO it would be far too risky to put 500GB of any data on a single drive.
My plan is to buy five hard drives, five hard drive fans, a RAID 5 card, and a good power supply.
Then I'll put all of that an old computer I have sitting around. Twenty minutes after that with the magic of Ubuntu + Samba and I will have a seriously butt kickin' two terabyte NAS that should last for five years. Cost ~$650
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