save 3-9% plus free round trip to europe and some programs are offering 2 nights for free...some companies are offering low cost trips in europe like black forest in germany etc
like the article said, the Euro delivery program is pretty old w/ some german companies such as BMW. However Audi just started their ED this past year. I went on my ED w/ BMW last Oct and although it was only 5 days it was totally awesome (and being able to drive on the A-bahn is wow...)! Also considering the trip at least "paid for it self" when you compare the price you saved from buying the car off the lot doesn't hurt either. Might I add BMW's ED currently has a 2 for the price of 1 plane tix via Lufthansa (but depending on when you travel thats not always the cheapest route). The only kicker is waiting for re-delivery of your car here in the states. Longest 6 weeks ever... click on links below to see the more about ED programs for diff. manufacturers and if interested my pics from my ED.
val3ntin3s said: like the article said, the Euro delivery program is pretty old w/ some german companies such as BMW. However Audi just started their ED this past year. I went on my ED w/ BMW last Oct and although it was only 5 days it was totally awesome (and being able to drive on the A-bahn is wow...)! Also considering the trip at least "paid for it self" when you compare the price you saved from buying the car off the lot doesn't hurt either. Might I add BMW's ED currently has a 2 for the price of 1 plane tix via Lufthansa (but depending on when you travel thats not always the cheapest route). The only kicker is waiting for re-delivery of your car here in the states. Longest 6 weeks ever... click on links below to see the more about ED programs for diff. manufacturers and if interested my pics from my ED.
thanx for the links and for sharing the great pictures from germany especially the city hall of munich the english garden the beer garden and nymphenburg palace..great memories
I must be still asleep, but how does this save the Euro car makers any money? I don't see how it is cheaper to fly someone to their country, have them drive the car around, fly them home and ship the car vs. Just sending the car to a dealer in the US. I'm not being a smart ass, I would really like to know how the system works that makes this cheaper for the car maker? Thanks!
bigcheapskate
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 18, 2007 @ 7:47a
LuckyGuy98 said: While this information is great it befuddles me how a senior member cannot link.
This is a good post. Why criticize someone and denigrate his skills just because you have to cut and paste a link? I see no reason to say he "cannot link", just that he chose not to.
This is a good post. Why criticize someone and denigrate his skills just because you have to cut and paste a link? I see no reason to say he "cannot link", just that he chose not to.In the first place, I didn't feel that LuckyGuy98 "criticized and denigrated", LuckyGuy98 was just bemused and commenting. Since it is common courtesy on Fat Wallet to link to a deal or article, one would expect a senior members (for over 2 years and 1,700 posts) to how to do so by now; and if they simply "choose not to", then that is just lazy and slightly rude to the Fat Wallet community.
LuckyGuy98 said: While this information is great it befuddles me how a senior member cannot link. And how a senior member does a repost of their own post 10 minutes later.
EDIT: Thanks OP for the post(s). I bought my 1986 VW Jetta GLi ED. Picked it up in Wolfsburg early Nov. 1985. Drove it for 12 days/2K miles in 9 countries. It was a fantastic experience. Spent 16 days total traveling western europe.
clearanceman said: I must be still asleep, but how does this save the Euro car makers any money? I don't see how it is cheaper to fly someone to their country, have them drive the car around, fly them home and ship the car vs. Just sending the car to a dealer in the US. I'm not being a smart ass, I would really like to know how the system works that makes this cheaper for the car maker? Thanks!
there's a reason why i posted those links.... so you can click on them and read about it. Each manufacture's ED is a bit different from the other. But generally the same.
Stollen123 said: thanx for the links and for sharing the great pictures from germany especially the city hall of munich the english garden the beer garden and nymphenburg palace..great memories
clearanceman said: I must be still asleep, but how does this save the Euro car makers any money? I don't see how it is cheaper to fly someone to their country, have them drive the car around, fly them home and ship the car vs. Just sending the car to a dealer in the US. I'm not being a smart ass, I would really like to know how the system works that makes this cheaper for the car maker? Thanks!
The manufacturer usually sells the vehicles to the dealer and in turn the dealer sells to the consumer. Remember, the manufacturer makes a profit with their mark up for the dealer. In this case they eliminate the middle-man.
Hypothetic example- Cost of car to manufacture= $30,000 Dealer invoice = $36,000-after 3% hold back dealer cost= $34,800 Retail sticker= $41,000 (which includes frieght cost) European Delivery Program $41,000- 9% = $37,310 If you subtract $37,310- $2500 (cost of they absord travel) you end up at $34,810 which is the same that they sell it to the dealer for. Again these numbers are hypothetical, but gives you an idea how it works.
Also, these programs are geared towards enthusiats and these trips solidify brand loyalty and is in turn somewhat free advertising as well.
RRTeam3
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 18, 2007 @ 2:48p
val3ntin3s said: like the article said, the Euro delivery program is pretty old w/ some german companies such as BMW. However Audi just started their ED this past year. I went on my ED w/ BMW last Oct and although it was only 5 days it was totally awesome (and being able to drive on the A-bahn is wow...)! Also considering the trip at least "paid for it self" when you compare the price you saved from buying the car off the lot doesn't hurt either. Might I add BMW's ED currently has a 2 for the price of 1 plane tix via Lufthansa (but depending on when you travel thats not always the cheapest route). The only kicker is waiting for re-delivery of your car here in the states. Longest 6 weeks ever... click on links below to see the more about ED programs for diff. manufacturers and if interested my pics from my ED.
I can understand this for Audi since they are getting *up* in years, but consider yourself fortunate if yours only lasted 5 days. According to most of the literature, once you experience ED it's a chronic condition.
5 days is all it needs for it to be a chronic condition if i ever get another european car, i'm def doing it again and the symptom most likely will get worse the next time around....YOU'VE BEEN WARNED!
seningen
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 18, 2007 @ 3:42p
So what is the cost of money over those 6 weeks
Arguably you have 6 weeks of depreciation as well as 6 weeks of lost interest.
Lets just toss out some numbers -- 0.5% depreciation per week -- linear, plus 0.5% interst cost -- total of 3.5% COST
so for 6 weeks it sits on a boat/port/customs -- that's costing you $1400 on a $40K vehicle.
twas a thread on a similar topic recently: volvo ed
and dont forget porsche! no discount, but might be kinda cool to cruise around europe in a porsche porsche ed
i wish i had time to do ed, instead i have to settle for the bmw performance center delivery: bmw pcd
keep in mind tho that, at least for bmw, the prices listed on their ed site are still negotiable, as these are the ed msrps. invoice prices can be found on bimmerfest
if anyone is looking to get a porsche, i know an extremely nice porsche sales associate who will definitely give you a great deal. pm for more details...
edited for link errors. my very first time linking!
hpuppet
New Member
posted: Jun. 18, 2007 @ 4:11p
After looking at this "deal" I don't see it saving me any money unless I was actually planning on paying MSRP for the car. But I'm not. In which case I can get a better deal without getting ED.
There may be some rare cases where ED works out. Like really popular, unavailable models that you'd have to pay full MSRP to get. Otherwise forget it.
seningen said: So what is the cost of money over those 6 weeks
Arguably you have 6 weeks of depreciation as well as 6 weeks of lost interest.
Lets just toss out some numbers -- 0.5% depreciation per week -- linear, plus 0.5% interst cost -- total of 3.5% COST
so for 6 weeks it sits on a boat/port/customs -- that's costing you $1400 on a $40K vehicle.
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depends if you lease or not. if you lease your second month's car payment is paid for by BMWNA but on the flipside your money factor on the lease may go up if you do ED. As for a purchased car that $1400 is still nothing compared to your "free trip" and what you've saved from buying it at the stealership (assuming you're comparing the Ed price to MSRP). you still end up saving at least 1-2Gs and the experience alone is priceless.
DanDrop
Ancient Member
posted: Jun. 18, 2007 @ 4:25p
I did a Euro delivery in 2002 for a BMW 530i. If i recall correctly, the pricing for the cars are different from 'dealer' prices. I remember researching this thoroughly and when i compared it, the Euro Delivery saved me about $6k than what i would have paid the dealer if i bought the car out of his lot. The savings are more than enough to get you a very good vacation to Europe. I remeber Going to Munich, Vienna, Milan, Zurich and Paris in a span of ten days. It was a blast. Plus you can actually test your car's capabilities in the A-Bahn as Val3ntin3s said.
If you are in the market for a brand new European car, check if the manufacturer has Euro Delivery. It was definitely one of my best vacations ever.
Roadfly Forums have a lot of discussion on Euro Delivery.
DanDrop said: I did a Euro delivery in 2002 for a BMW 530i. If i recall correctly, the pricing for the cars are different from 'dealer' prices. I remember researching this thoroughly and when i compared it, the Euro Delivery saved me about $6k than what i would have paid the dealer if i bought the car out of his lot. The savings are more than enough to get you a very good vacation to Europe. I remeber Going to Munich, Vienna, Milan, Zurich and Paris in a span of ten days. It was a blast. Plus you can actually test your car's capabilities in the A-Bahn as Val3ntin3s said.
If you are in the market for a brand new European car, check if the manufacturer has Euro Delivery. It was definitely one of my best vacations ever.
Roadfly Forums have a lot of discussion on Euro Delivery.
I wasn't going to mention the pricing saved but since you said 6k, that sounds about right (when compared to MSRP pricing) If interested on BMW ED pricing below are some links that may further help you Usually the first few "sticky" of the page are pricing info:
a529612 said: val3ntin3s said: valleypoboy said: Too bad they don't make a car in hawaii.
haha i was wondering the other day why japanese cars dont have this type of program. That'd be awesome too.
Or the Big 3 offering free trips to Detroit.
Experience lovely downtown Detroit in the comfort of your new Cobalt. Feel the thrill of getting mugged on a freezing Michigan night. Experience the joy of seeing your beautiful 15-inch steel wheels replaced with cinder blocks after enjoying a fabulous dinner at Cracker Barrel. See the majesty of the famous Michigan ski runs built from landfills. Try out GM's exclusive Detroit Delivery today.
ZenerDiode said: a529612 said: val3ntin3s said: valleypoboy said: Too bad they don't make a car in hawaii.
haha i was wondering the other day why japanese cars dont have this type of program. That'd be awesome too.
Or the Big 3 offering free trips to Detroit.
Experience lovely downtown Detroit in the comfort of your new Cobalt. Feel the thrill of getting mugged on a freezing Michigan night. Experience the joy of seeing your beautiful 15-inch steel wheels replaced with cinder blocks after enjoying a fabulous dinner at Cracker Barrel. See the majesty of the famous Michigan ski runs built from landfills. Try out GM's exclusive Detroit Delivery today.
ZenerDiode said: a529612 said: val3ntin3s said: valleypoboy said: Too bad they don't make a car in hawaii.
haha i was wondering the other day why japanese cars dont have this type of program. That'd be awesome too.
Or the Big 3 offering free trips to Detroit.
Experience lovely downtown Detroit in the comfort of your new Cobalt. Feel the thrill of getting mugged on a freezing Michigan night. Experience the joy of seeing your beautiful 15-inch steel wheels replaced with cinder blocks after enjoying a fabulous dinner at Cracker Barrel. See the majesty of the famous Michigan ski runs built from landfills. Try out GM's exclusive Detroit Delivery today.
brownie20 said: ZenerDiode said: a529612 said: val3ntin3s said: valleypoboy said: Too bad they don't make a car in hawaii.
haha i was wondering the other day why japanese cars dont have this type of program. That'd be awesome too.
Or the Big 3 offering free trips to Detroit.
Experience lovely downtown Detroit in the comfort of your new Cobalt. Feel the thrill of getting mugged on a freezing Michigan night. Experience the joy of seeing your beautiful 15-inch steel wheels replaced with cinder blocks after enjoying a fabulous dinner at Cracker Barrel. See the majesty of the famous Michigan ski runs built from landfills. Try out GM's exclusive Detroit Delivery today.
too funny you must be in marketing... That did it for me! Booked my Greyhound ticket and I leave tomorrow.
MuthaFaker
Senior Member - 2K
posted: Jun. 18, 2007 @ 8:41p
val3ntin3s said: like the article said, the Euro delivery program is pretty old w/ some german companies such as BMW. However Audi just started their ED this past year. I went on my ED w/ BMW last Oct and although it was only 5 days it was totally awesome (and being able to drive on the A-bahn is wow...)! Also considering the trip at least "paid for it self" when you compare the price you saved from buying the car off the lot doesn't hurt either. Might I add BMW's ED currently has a 2 for the price of 1 plane tix via Lufthansa (but depending on when you travel thats not always the cheapest route). The only kicker is waiting for re-delivery of your car here in the states. Longest 6 weeks ever... click on links below to see the more about ED programs for diff. manufacturers and if interested my pics from my ED.
I picked up my Ford Fusion in Hermosillo, Mexico! I was able to open 'er up in the beautiful Sonoran desert, cruise through the lovely maquiladora housing, and make a few extra bucks from some stowaways on the ride back! I highly recommend the Mexican pickup program! Sure I couldn't leave the bathroom for a couple weeks afterwards, but I picked up some great deals at the Polo outlet store adjacent to the plant.
w/ 4yr 50k maintenance behind you who cares!!! (i cared when i drove it though =X) but i've read around about breaking in new cars and basically i've heard from "drive it like you stole it" to "first 1500 miles do not do this this this and this" and anything in between.........
BUT.....
if you're doing EDing and you leased you BETTER WOT it and let her breath the clean air of the bahn, it's better for the car, better for the driver ....
of course! same sn as this one... except my sig there is much better
LOL...does your wife knew about that?
clayfu
Senior Member
posted: Jun. 19, 2007 @ 1:49p
hpuppet said: After looking at this "deal" I don't see it saving me any money unless I was actually planning on paying MSRP for the car. But I'm not. In which case I can get a better deal without getting ED.
There may be some rare cases where ED works out. Like really popular, unavailable models that you'd have to pay full MSRP to get. Otherwise forget it.
i agree do people even pay above invoice anymore? This isn't much of a savings.. unless.. there's no tax in Europe haha.
I'd say its not even a savings, it'll probably cost you more time and effort than going to your dealer and just buying it immediately.
i bought a bimmer a few weeks ago at basically invoice (maybe $50 more than invoice?), but if i had gone the ED route and paid about $1000 above ED invoice (a "fair" deal), i would have saved $1-2K. you need to really look at the prices to appreciate the savings...
brownie20 said: i bought a bimmer a few weeks ago at basically invoice (maybe $50 more than invoice?), but if i had gone the ED route and paid about $1000 above ED invoice (a "fair" deal), i would have saved $1-2K. you need to really look at the prices to appreciate the savings...
what model did you get to get the $50 over invoice?
gforce84 said: Tacoma99 said: I guess the Chinese will follow with travel tours of Beijing to pickup your new Chery. Or the brand spanking new BMW fighter, the Brilliance BS6!
lol....yeah but that one is even more expensive than the Chery.
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