Hi,

I also flashed it to V191, seems it's the only way to flex language pack to it. My question is: Will flashing V195 with V191 RAM unlock the phone? If not, what step I need to take to unlock it?

smartgege said:Hi,

I also flashed it to V191, seems it's the only way to flex language pack to it. My question is: Will flashing V195 with V191 RAM unlock the phone? If not, what step I need to take to unlock it?

I am not sure if flashing to V191 is the only way to get language pack in. If you can find a chinese V195 .shx file, you are set. However, I had no choice because the file I thought was just a lanugage pack was actually the whole thing, and L2 one too. I had no access to a chinese v195 .shx file so I went with a V191 one.

Unlocking V195, I heard is very hard to do, test point and maybe smart clip.

Luckily, I am a loyal Tmobile customer, so I got the unlock code already.

On the other hand, I was wondering about if it's possible to unlock this phone with moto unlocker software after downgrade to V191.

Anybody willing to give it a shot? It's very interesting. Unfortunately, I can't do it now since my phone is already unlocked. Otherwise, it would be fun.

smartgege said:Thanks for all the replies. Now the language pack issue has been taken care of:

First, I flashed it into V191 RAM which has 0015 language pack, then I think maybe I can extract the 0015 language pack (CG4) from the V191 RAM and write it back to my original V195 RAM. I tried, and it did work. The software you need to do it is Flash&Backup

If any one need the 0015 language pack, please PM me. or you can teach me how to attached it in reply.

Wow, you got Flash&Backup working for V195? I can't get mine V195 to backup .shx at all.

If that's true, that's awesome. Do you mind give me the V195 .shx file with 0015 language pack? I will PM my email addres to you. I've actually make my V195 into a V191 now. Don't have bluetooth fuction now.

Why am I having problem checking out. It gives me a blank page when I go to checkout. I even tried disabling pop up blocker.

same results with IE 6 and Mozilla

If I get this phone for my summer trip to Europe (assuming I can get it unlocked) what is the procedure for using it in Europe? I assume I would need to replace the SIM card with a different one that works in Europe? How much do these SIM cards go for over there? Are they precharged/loaded with minutes? I am assuming it would be much cheaper than renting a cellphone for a place like WorldCell, right?

ArgoNavis said:v1rok said:If I get this phone for my summer trip to Europe (assuming I can get it unlocked) what is the procedure for using it in Europe? I assume I would need to replace the SIM card with a different one that works in Europe? How much do these SIM cards go for over there? Are they precharged/loaded with minutes? I am assuming it would be much cheaper than renting a cellphone for a place like WorldCell, right?

Yep, you go to the first wireless shop (avoid airport shops, they are a ripoff), and get a prepaid SIM card with a number of minutes. They are very cheap (say, 5-10 Euro for 10-15 Euro worth of calls and you get the SIM card too). Many European cards expire in 1 year, unlike the US ones which give 60 days before refill. Also, the EU forced the wireless providers to lower the roaming rates substantially (50%-70%), and now calling from one country while using a SIM card bought in another country is not as outrageously expensive (it goes into force in August).

Another big advantage of using your own phone is the convenience, because you don't have rent and return a cappy used phone. Also you can buy the sim card even before your trip, so you can use your phone abroad immediately (without having to a cellular store to buy a sim card).

So not only is it cheaper to use your own phone (with a local prepaid sim card), it's infinitely more convenient.

Here you go

International prepaid discussion thread at howard forums

smartgege said:orangetabby said:smartgege said:Thanks for all the replies. Now the language pack issue has been taken care of:

First, I flashed it into V191 RAM which has 0015 language pack, then I think maybe I can extract the 0015 language pack (CG4) from the V191 RAM and write it back to my original V195 RAM. I tried, and it did work. The software you need to do it is Flash&Backup

If any one need the 0015 language pack, please PM me. or you can teach me how to attached it in reply.

Wow, you got Flash&Backup working for V195? I can't get mine V195 to backup .shx at all.

If that's true, that's awesome. Do you mind give me the V195 .shx file with 0015 language pack? I will PM my email addres to you. I've actually make my V195 into a V191 now. Don't have bluetooth fuction now.

The full V195 shx file is too big, 15M after zip. So I sent you the language pack only.

Yes the Flash&Backup does work with V195, the phone profile I chose is "Motorola L6". What you need to do is flashing your phone back to V195 using the original T-Mobile RAM. (I hope you backup your RAM), then write this 0015 language pack into it.

Thanks, I appreciate it.

Unfortunately, I did not back up the RAM.

ksrao1234 said:I got the phone, but it is already added the sim card to device is it normal for prepaid phones or it is used one? Can anybody help to find th details. Or i can return the phone?T-Mobile.com ships their phones with SIM and battery installed.

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